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Posted: 1/18/2015 4:44:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 4:47:28 PM EST by Lokjell]
At the 2015 Detroit Auto show, Hyundai showed off the Santa Cruz concept. It's likely based on their Santa Fe SUV. It's powered by a 2.0l Turbocharged diesel 190hp 300fpt Seems like a pretty good replacement for the El Camino. Infinately more practical than the vast majority of full sized pickups that are being used to get grocerys.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/01/12/hyundai-santa-cruz-is-pickup-for-people-who-dont-like-pickups/


Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:47:15 PM EST
Why not? It would handle most, if not all of my hauling needs.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:48:05 PM EST
Oh yeah, it's also supposed to get in the high 30's mpg. I really hope they produce it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:53:17 PM EST
Kind of want.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:59:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 5:00:45 PM EST by Rhyno]
Like a Honda Ridgeline, but a diesel
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:05:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RC03:
Kind of want.
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Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:06:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RC03:
Kind of want.


Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:07:36 PM EST
Ugly, do not want, all you diesel guys can have.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:10:26 PM EST
Ew fucking ugly and is there even a bed on it?
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:15:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:17:54 PM EST
Like it.



Hyundai too, so you know the price will be reasonable.


Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:17:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 5:18:47 PM EST by Lokjell]
It actually has an extending bed. Will supposedly fit a motorcycle diagonally.

Supposedly mid 20's for price.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:19:08 PM EST
Fuckin ugly
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:24:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/18/2015 5:27:09 PM EST by ural]
Reminds me of the VehiCross. I'd drive it, although from what I've seen of Korean diesels leads me to believe they could use some refinement.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:25:42 PM EST
Too fucking practical.

Give me a Tacoma that gets 16 MPG
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:25:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ural:
Reminds me of the VehiCross. I'd drive it.
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Those were pretty cool.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:32:56 PM EST
I'd buy one.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:34:43 PM EST
190 hp pushing a 4000 lb vehicle? What a gutless dog!
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:35:29 PM EST
I'd buy it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:36:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lokjell:
It actually has an extending bed. Will supposedly fit a motorcycle diagonally.

Supposedly mid 20's for price.
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Mid 20s? I'll spend another few grand and get a full size crew cab 4x4 with the gasser v-8. With the disparity in gas and diesel prices you wouldn't be saving any money on fuel. Something like this shouldn't be more than 14-17k for a well equipped 2wd or even awd version.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:36:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By watchwatch:

Too fucking practical.

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That's what I did.

I'd drive the shit out of that Hyundai.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:37:01 PM EST
Why not just put the fucking diesel into the Sonata/Santa Fe right now?
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:38:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By watchwatch:
Too fucking practical.

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Hey, 16mpg and awesome retail. $19k with a new frame and 10 years old!
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:38:14 PM EST
I'd love for Kia/Hyundai to get into the AWD utility area.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:39:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DnPRK:
190 hp pushing a 4000 lb vehicle? What a gutless dog!
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Ermagerd. I need 400 Hp to haul muh fatass down to the likker store. Cuz 'merica!
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:39:53 PM EST
Why would I want a diesel with today's gas prices.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:40:56 PM EST
Meh, sort of want.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:43:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DnPRK:
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Torque dude. 300 lb-ft is nothing to laugh at.

Torque is the pushing you back in the seat feeling you get.

My 08 Nissan Titan has 385 lb-ft of torque. It does 0-60 in about 7 seconds.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:49:16 PM EST
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Because high 30's mpg.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:52:09 PM EST
Another Asian-brand fagmobile, no thanks.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:58:16 PM EST
Would rather get a Colorado which is supposed to get a diesel soon I believe.

But, I like the idea. The new round of GM "small" trucks seem as big as half-tons were 15 years ago or so.

For 95% of what I use it for, these mini-trucks would do great.

Really I just want something efficient, while big enough inside to be comfortable and a bed big enough to throw hunting / range gear and coolers in.



That being said I love my '14 Silverado. But it really is more truck than I actually need.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:06:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UTex86:
Would rather get a Colorado which is supposed to get a diesel soon I believe.

But, I like the idea. The new round of GM "small" trucks seem as big as half-tons were 15 years ago or so.

For 95% of what I use it for, these mini-trucks would do great.

Really I just want something efficient, while big enough inside to be comfortable and a bed big enough to throw hunting / range gear and coolers in.



That being said I love my '14 Silverado. But it really is more truck than I actually need.
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$35,000ish starting. No thanks. For that you can get a Ram 1500 with EcoDiesel.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:10:41 PM EST
MEH.

I would buy it, but diesel up here isn't worth the trouble unless you are pulling freight with it.

If I lived somewhere warmer, and could get it with a manual transmission I might consider it, lifestyle requirements permitting....

Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:12:56 PM EST
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$35,000ish starting. No thanks. For that you can get a Ram 1500 with EcoDiesel.
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Originally Posted By UTex86:
Would rather get a Colorado which is supposed to get a diesel soon I believe.

But, I like the idea. The new round of GM "small" trucks seem as big as half-tons were 15 years ago or so.

For 95% of what I use it for, these mini-trucks would do great.

Really I just want something efficient, while big enough inside to be comfortable and a bed big enough to throw hunting / range gear and coolers in.



That being said I love my '14 Silverado. But it really is more truck than I actually need.

$35,000ish starting. No thanks. For that you can get a Ram 1500 with EcoDiesel.


$35,000ish is MSRP for a crew cab, long box, 4wd Z71.

A similarly equipped Ram 1500 SLT w/ EcoDiesel, crew cab, 4wd, short box is $42,000ish MSRP.

Pretty big difference.

If you are going to go for a work truck trim Ram over a fairly loaded Colorado, that's fine, but if you compare apples to apples (as far as specs), and you don't need the capacity of the Ram, the Colorado is less expensive.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:13:02 PM EST
If the production models are close to the concept I'll be buying the wife one.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:17:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ural:


Ermagerd. I need 400 Hp to haul muh fatass down to the likker store. Cuz 'merica!
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Originally Posted By ural:
Originally Posted By DnPRK:
190 hp pushing a 4000 lb vehicle? What a gutless dog!


Ermagerd. I need 400 Hp to haul muh fatass down to the likker store. Cuz 'merica!


They gear their vehicles really really well.

My little 4 banger Sonata has 6 gears.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:18:33 PM EST
Looks like they copied the Toyota A-BAT concept from 2007.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:19:10 PM EST
That is almost totally useless as a truck
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:21:16 PM EST
I would love something like this, but with 3 kids, I'll stick to my suburban and trailer if I need to haul something.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:21:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
That is almost totally useless as a truck
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Not everyone needs to haul the entire job site in the back of their truck. The super size it trend of trucks from all the major players has gotten completely out of hand.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:25:02 PM EST
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Not everyone needs to haul the entire job site in the back of their truck. The super size it trend of trucks from all the major players has gotten completely out of hand.
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Originally Posted By Tim_AZ:
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
That is almost totally useless as a truck


Not everyone needs to haul the entire job site in the back of their truck. The super size it trend of trucks from all the major players has gotten completely out of hand.

Yup. It won't appeal to the brodozer crowd but it will do 90% of what they actually need a truck for.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:25:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Lokjell:
Infinately more practical than the vast majority of full sized pickups that are being used to get grocerys.
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Looks to me like that's all it would be good for. If it spell-checks, maybe two.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:25:18 PM EST
I'd be the target market. Home owner, needs an efficient commuter, yet needs a truck for the 12-18 times a year that gravel/sand/bricks/bulky stuff needs to be moved.

Currently have a 4-cyl Tacoma. Not speedy, but fast enough, and has the torque to haul a half ton of gravel.

Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:28:43 PM EST
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Not everyone needs to haul the entire job site in the back of their truck. The super size it trend of trucks from all the major players has gotten completely out of hand.
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Originally Posted By Tim_AZ:
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
That is almost totally useless as a truck


Not everyone needs to haul the entire job site in the back of their truck. The super size it trend of trucks from all the major players has gotten completely out of hand.

This.

I like the size of my '02 Tacoma. The new ones are too big IMHO for a supposed compact pickup.

If this concept makes it to market, I'll take a look at it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:34:53 PM EST
It would make for a great everyday driver and keep my 01 Ram for the heavier stuff.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:39:40 PM EST
Neva Ben Done Befo.

Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:41:14 PM EST
Do not want
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:47:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ural:


Ermagerd. I need 400 Hp to haul muh fatass down to the likker store. Cuz 'merica!
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Originally Posted By ural:
Originally Posted By DnPRK:
190 hp pushing a 4000 lb vehicle? What a gutless dog!


Ermagerd. I need 400 Hp to haul muh fatass down to the likker store. Cuz 'merica!



Lots of people actually use their vehicles for serious work, not every can fit all their stuff in a Volvo or a Pious.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:51:58 PM EST
I'd definitely buy one!

Got land in the mountains a couple hours away, be nice to have a AWD small diesel pickup that gets 30+ mpg, can haul mini-bike or 4-wheeler, wood, deer, etc and handle the snow, dirt and mud. Got an old Jeep Cherokee now, that gets 15 mpg and isn't that good at hauling wood, atv's or deer. It's about time for something new and this would fit the bill.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:52:19 PM EST
Chevrolet El Camino, Ford Ranchero, Jeep CJ-8, Subaru Brat, Subaru Baja, Ford Explorer Sport Trac, Honda Ridgeline. It's been tried and tried with various sized platforms and success (mostly not). Hell Hyundai didn't even have it prominently displayed in their area at the North American International Auto Show that I just got back from last week.

The 2016 Chevrolet Colorado will come with a diesel engine and be light-years more functional and usable than this, if Hyundai ever produces it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:59:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 94TBlazer:

Looks to me like that's all it would be good for. If it spell-checks, maybe two.
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Originally Posted By Lokjell:
Infinately more practical than the vast majority of full sized pickups that are being used to get grocerys.

Looks to me like that's all it would be good for. If it spell-checks, maybe two.


Again, not everyone needs a big truck to tow huge loads or reaffirm their masculinity. That thing is half recreational. Which I like. I don't give a damn if it doesn't tow a flat trailer with a backhoe.
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