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Posted: 10/23/2016 3:14:32 PM EDT
Went to check out a 1400 sqft house today. Haven't seen the rubber being used in place of copper at all. Gas baseboard heat and water heater.


Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:17:14 PM EDT


Thank God- I thought this was another tranny thread................





Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:17:52 PM EDT
Wirsbo is one of the 2 systems of pex I would use in my own house (that's what's in that photo)

Lots of easy to use clean outs. Couple joints look a little hokey but otherwise looks good.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:23:32 PM EDT
Hell, they labeled the valves, I'm stunned by that alone.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:25:37 PM EDT
No wonder the water don't work, the pipe is plugged up with wires!
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:27:14 PM EDT
In the first pic, whats up with the exhaust vents just coming out of the wall into nothing? ASking $429,000 for the house but it assessed at like $319,000 I think. Similar houses in area are selling for the 429ish price though.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:33:15 PM EDT
$306/sq.ft.?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:37:51 PM EDT
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It's early yet.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:39:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:48:34 PM EDT
Looks good and someone took their time. The wersbo pex is awesome stuff used it in a ton of houses. Clean and fast and solid
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:48:58 PM EDT
Looks good.

You should see what passes for plumbing around here.

Of course, ain't a whole lot for 400k houses for sale either
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:50:12 PM EDT
Where does that uncapped exhaust duct come from?
In the first pic
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 3:51:17 PM EDT
The water heaters exhaust pipe must be no closer than 6" to that combustible peice of vertical wood, considering the type of pipe.
The 3"x 4" exhaust coupling at the top of the water heater appears to have some corrosion on the lower/left side.
The gas supply for the water heater is lacking a drip leg, and for that, I'd call into question if the installation ever had a permit.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:00:34 PM EDT
Looks good to me. I am using PEX in my house with a manifold system for water. Used for radiant heat too. Did you check town hall to if the work was done by a permit?
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Circle10:
No wonder the water don't work, the pipe is plugged up with wires!
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Hey, Moe!

There's wires in these pipes!

Nyahhhahhhh.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:04:55 PM EDT
The ducts are probably fresh air intakes for furnace combustion.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:06:39 PM EDT


Better than this.




Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:09:29 PM EDT
Those 3 cleanouts are not lined up. Ocd triggered
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:09:38 PM EDT
Awful lot of joints in that PEX.
Instead of running and branching just use all home runs.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:12:30 PM EDT
The gas boiler isn't a high efficiency model. From the limited view, it's likely older than 15 years (judging by the old style amtrol expansion tank). The chimney must have a drop in liner or good clay tile liner. An existing drop in liner is unlikely because if there was one, it'd come out of the brick as 5 or 6" and tee to the two gas appliances external to the brick chimney.
You'd have to pull one of the venting appliances' chimney connection pipes or look down the chimney from the roof. These requirements are from the NFPA 54 code book.

If you were serious about buying the home, if I were you, I'd pay a plumber an hour labor to inspect all that and note any problems in writing. The seller should have to pay a professional to make everything code compliant and safe before you close on the home transaction.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:34:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Concentricity:
The water heaters exhaust pipe must be no closer than 6" to that combustible peice of vertical wood, considering the type of pipe.
The 3"x 4" exhaust coupling at the top of the water heater appears to have some corrosion on the lower/left side.
The gas supply for the water heater is lacking a drip leg, and for that, I'd call into question if the installation ever had a permit.
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Originally Posted By Concentricity:
The water heaters exhaust pipe must be no closer than 6" to that combustible peice of vertical wood, considering the type of pipe.
The 3"x 4" exhaust coupling at the top of the water heater appears to have some corrosion on the lower/left side.
The gas supply for the water heater is lacking a drip leg, and for that, I'd call into question if the installation ever had a permit.


Any chance you can take my pic and mspaint it to show me what you're talking about?

Originally Posted By Concentricity:
The gas boiler isn't a high efficiency model. From the limited view, it's likely older than 15 years (judging by the old style amtrol expansion tank). The chimney must have a drop in liner or good clay tile liner. An existing drop in liner is unlikely because if there was one, it'd come out of the brick as 5 or 6" and tee to the two gas appliances external to the brick chimney.
You'd have to pull one of the venting appliances' chimney connection pipes or look down the chimney from the roof. These requirements are from the NFPA 54 code book.

If you were serious about buying the home, if I were you, I'd pay a plumber an hour labor to inspect all that and note any problems in writing. The seller should have to pay a professional to make everything code compliant and safe before you close on the home transaction.


All of this would be contingent in passing inspection. Hope the inspector would be good enough to find these things.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:41:18 PM EDT
Looks like there were permits for everything

Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:45:39 PM EDT
Visually, it looks good. Does the PVC have primer. In my AO if there isn't purple evidence everywhere, the inspectors question.
May need mineral wool in the wall openings for fire code.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:48:03 PM EDT
What everyone keeps calling an exhaust might be combustion air inlet.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 4:59:27 PM EDT
That would not be legal here code dictates they must use PVC purple primer for 2016, before that they would have to use a contrast color primer.
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 5:01:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dogsplat:

Hey, Moe!


There's wires in these pipes!


Nyahhhahhhh.
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Originally Posted By Circle10:
No wonder the water don't work, the pipe is plugged up with wires!

Hey, Moe!


There's wires in these pipes!


Nyahhhahhhh.


A fine place for wires! Drag those wires outta there!

This house sure gone crazy!

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Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
$320k for a 1400 sq ft house?

No thanks.
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Location, location, location.

Link Posted: 10/23/2016 5:12:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:42:47 PM EDT
That looks a lot better than what I dealt with last week. Cast iron drain pipe, probably made in the 20's, installed in a house made in the 60's, and nearly 100% clogged (all 30', not just one section).
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:47:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:47:48 PM EDT
Looks pretty good. I would add an expansion tank and a sediment trap to the water heater.

Link Posted: 10/23/2016 11:48:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023:
That would not be legal here code dictates they must use PVC purple primer for 2016, before that they would have to use a contrast color primer.
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Sure it is, you just have to go back and rub purple primer on everything.

I've seen it done, glad I don't work in areas with inspections any more though, what a joke.

Inspectors are the bane of my existence.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:03:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vengeance6661:
Looks like there were permits for everything

https://s18.postimg.org/8hznj28jt/permits.png
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Persec warning. That's plenty of info to find your address.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:17:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023:
That would not be legal here code dictates they must use PVC purple primer for 2016, before that they would have to use a contrast color primer.
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Massholes don't know what primer is. It's primaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh to them.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:22:09 AM EDT
Is that an eye way station in the bathroom? And wtf is that plumbing vent pipe doing in the bathroom next to the sink? Or is that for the eyewash station basin?
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 12:28:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


Sucks. Sucks. SUCKS!

That's a servant's quarters shack size! For a third of a million?

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Originally Posted By Bud:
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
$320k for a 1400 sq ft house?

No thanks.


Location, location, location.



Sucks. Sucks. SUCKS!

That's a servant's quarters shack size! For a third of a million?



It's in MA where everything is 3x more expensive for 1/3 the amount

Link Posted: 10/24/2016 1:28:26 AM EDT
I didn't realize arfcom, had so many plumbers....
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 1:46:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Vengeance6661:
Went to check out a 1400 sqft house today. Haven't seen the rubber being used in place of copper at all. Gas baseboard heat and water heater.

https://s9.postimg.org/kkz3o8j33/IMG_20161023_125738.jpg
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rubber?
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 1:46:49 AM EDT
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not by trade, but I do enjoy laying pipe
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 1:57:07 AM EDT
Looks decent, though I don't know about those ducts that look like they're drawing combustion air from inside the basement. I'd rather those be ducted outside and pull air in from outside the house.

Oh and for those shitting themselves at the price, for 1,400 sq. ft. (likely 3bd 2br) where I live, you're looking at ~700K. and most of all
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 2:00:11 AM EDT
That is like a 75K house here.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 2:04:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 2:07:57 AM EDT
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Persec warning. That's plenty of info to find your address.
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Originally Posted By Vengeance6661:
Looks like there were permits for everything

https://s18.postimg.org/8hznj28jt/permits.png


Persec warning. That's plenty of info to find your address.


100% chance I don't buy this place. First house looking at right now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 2:14:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
$320k for a 1400 sq ft house?

No thanks.
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Link Posted: 10/24/2016 3:06:45 AM EDT
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whats up with the random PVC in the basement bathroom wall?

thats a 160K house here
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 4:04:36 AM EDT
https://www.thisoldhouse.com/more/home-inspection-nightmares




This photo is from a Chicago rehab where someone forgot to add a vent line for the dryer. Not to worry. We'll use the “thingy” coming out of the water heater—until it clogs with lint.
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The homeowner cut an air return vent into the furnace air return duct to draw the cold air out of the furnace room, but it is less than 24 inches from the open vent hood for the gas water heater. Carbon monoxide could easily be sucked into the air return and spread through the home. The tinfoil around the vent where it entered the chimney was also ineffective at the least.
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"This appears to be a new pipe fitting that connects galvanized to copper pipe, which would normally cause corrosion due to electrolysis. The surprising thing is that it was not leaking."
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Link Posted: 10/24/2016 9:16:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SkeeterTZX:
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whats up with the random PVC in the basement bathroom wall?

thats a 160K house here
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Standpipe for washing machine.
Link Posted: 10/24/2016 9:24:20 AM EDT
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Thank God- I thought this was another tranny thread................

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