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Posted: 8/12/2012 7:33:19 PM EDT
Lets just call it "the state of Iowa" is prohibited from flying tomorrow.

Link Posted: 8/12/2012 7:39:56 PM EDT
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_147/1340097_.html&r=&page=1


I don't really understand why all of the presidential TFRs. Why not just have AF1 fly around and the president sometimes be on it. Hell, if I were president, I might occasionally want to fly in on a Gulfstream or something less obvious. Hell, put me in one of the escort fighters.
Link Posted: 8/12/2012 7:42:21 PM EDT
It's a bus tour. These massive TFRs are for a bus tour.
Link Posted: 8/12/2012 7:43:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
It's a bus tour. These massive TFRs are for a bus tour.


Are you fucking kidding!? Did we have these massive TFRs during past presidencies like this?
Link Posted: 8/12/2012 8:11:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2012 8:14:01 PM EDT by M82Assault]
Originally Posted By a555:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_147/1340097_.html&r=&page=1
http://socialdetour.com/Gallery/f9388588-8408-4bb4-b82f-78c0c7c935a1.jpg

I don't really understand why all of the presidential TFRs. Why not just have AF1 fly around and the president sometimes be on it. Hell, if I were president, I might occasionally want to fly in on a Gulfstream or something less obvious. Hell, put me in one of the escort fighters.


Shit, if I were president, I'd say fuck AF1, I'm flying myself there in an F/A18!

It would end up being a hell of a lot cheaper too

ETA: An A10 would work too. No need for the Secret Service then
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 5:19:55 AM EDT
That reminds me. When I was flying A-10s at England AFB, LA in the mid 80s Air Force 2 came in. We were in an exercise and the Secret Service Advon made all of the pilots turn in our mighty 38 cal Smith and Wesson Combat Masterpieces for security reasons. When Air Force 2 landed I was sitting number 1, leading a 4 ship. Oh yeah, and we were doing a live ordnance drop so each of us had 1000 rds 30MM HEI and 6 live MK82s and we had just finished arming so all the pins were pulled. But we didn't have our 38s ;-) Truly a WTFO.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 5:42:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By a555:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
It's a bus tour. These massive TFRs are for a bus tour.


Are you fucking kidding!? Did we have these massive TFRs during past presidencies like this?


No, this nonsense started post 9/11 and seems to have gotten much worse with King Obama.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 6:24:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:
Originally Posted By a555:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
It's a bus tour. These massive TFRs are for a bus tour.


Are you fucking kidding!? Did we have these massive TFRs during past presidencies like this?


No, this nonsense started post 9/11 and seems to have gotten much worse with King Obama.


I read something from a retired USSS agent that said Obama is the most hated President the USSS has ever had to protect. Hated, meaning people are out to get him. They are constantly chasing credible threats against him. Love or hate the guy, that is a terrible way to live.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 6:37:08 AM EDT
Rolling TFRs are a nightmare! I'm a firm believer that if you pop one you should get a pass.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 6:43:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By esa17:
Rolling TFRs are a nightmare! I'm a firm believer that if you pop one you should get a pass.


My answer is just going to be to stay on the ground tonight. Shame, it's perfect weather.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 8:25:02 AM EDT
ha!

so glad im not working that.
Link Posted: 8/13/2012 10:47:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bandit432:
That reminds me. When I was flying A-10s at England AFB, LA in the mid 80s Air Force 2 came in. We were in an exercise and the Secret Service Advon made all of the pilots turn in our mighty 38 cal Smith and Wesson Combat Masterpieces for security reasons. When Air Force 2 landed I was sitting number 1, leading a 4 ship. Oh yeah, and we were doing a live ordnance drop so each of us had 1000 rds 30MM HEI and 6 live MK82s and we had just finished arming so all the pins were pulled. But we didn't have our 38s ;-) Truly a WTFO.


I don't know whether to laugh or hang my head in shame at the sheer stupidity. "OK, since a VIP is coming in we need your revolvers. What? You're sitting in a ground attack aircraft with 1krds of HEAT AND 6 bombs? Carry on without your pistol. Never mind that if you wanted to make some big ass fireworks you could."
Link Posted: 8/18/2012 2:25:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M82Assault:
Originally Posted By Bandit432:
That reminds me. When I was flying A-10s at England AFB, LA in the mid 80s Air Force 2 came in. We were in an exercise and the Secret Service Advon made all of the pilots turn in our mighty 38 cal Smith and Wesson Combat Masterpieces for security reasons. When Air Force 2 landed I was sitting number 1, leading a 4 ship. Oh yeah, and we were doing a live ordnance drop so each of us had 1000 rds 30MM HEI and 6 live MK82s and we had just finished arming so all the pins were pulled. But we didn't have our 38s ;-) Truly a WTFO.


I don't know whether to laugh or hang my head in shame at the sheer stupidity. "OK, since a VIP is coming in we need your revolvers. What? You're sitting in a ground attack aircraft with 1krds of HEAT AND 6 bombs? Carry on without your pistol. Never mind that if you wanted to make some big ass fireworks you could."


Ya'll just don't know how dangerous guns is when they have a mind of their own.
Link Posted: 8/18/2012 12:03:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Rolling TFRs are a nightmare! I'm a firm believer that if you pop one you should get a pass.


My answer is just going to be to stay on the ground tonight. Shame, it's perfect weather.


Go to KC Downtown, grab the crew car, do the Golden Ox for dinner.
Link Posted: 8/18/2012 8:22:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2012 8:26:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Rolling TFRs are a nightmare! I'm a firm believer that if you pop one you should get a pass.


My answer is just going to be to stay on the ground tonight. Shame, it's perfect weather.


Go to KC Downtown, grab the crew car, do the Golden Ox for dinner.


I haven't been there before. My long cross-country for instrument was the same plan just to Jack Stack.
Link Posted: 8/19/2012 9:02:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Rolling TFRs are a nightmare! I'm a firm believer that if you pop one you should get a pass.


My answer is just going to be to stay on the ground tonight. Shame, it's perfect weather.


Go to KC Downtown, grab the crew car, do the Golden Ox for dinner.


I haven't been there before. My long cross-country for instrument was the same plan just to Jack Stack.


I think Topeka Billiard still has a restaurant on field, as does Pawnee City (OK/KS border just inside OK near I-35).

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