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Posted: 11/19/2008 9:58:32 PM EDT
All tinfoil and koolaid aside, I think it's a legitimate concern that if the time came where the govt. shut down arfcom and all major pro-gun boards and forums to try and stop us from organizing and communicating for necessity of liberating America once again, how would we go about organizing and communicating with eachother.  Not that I think this is remotely possible, but hypothetically, if arfcom and many others shut down tomorrow, how would we get organized?  Are there any mass email storages with members addresses?  How would we really organize and communicate?
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:02:00 PM EDT
Tactical smoke signals of course.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:03:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
Tactical smoke signals of course.


or HAM for those so equipped.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:04:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gringopistolero:
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
Tactical smoke signals of course.


or HAM for those so equipped.


Well in that case, I will send you some smoked Morse Code and you can relay it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:06:26 PM EDT
Ham or CB radio would be my guess.  It would take time for communications infrastructure to shut down I think, a few days if not weeks.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:06:46 PM EDT
"One if by land, two if by sea."
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:08:43 PM EDT
Carrier pigeons.

Mine will have a message that says +1
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:10:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
Originally Posted By gringopistolero:
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
Tactical smoke signals of course.


or HAM for those so equipped.


Well in that case, I will send you some smoked Morse Code and you can relay it.


'for those so equipped' means, "not me"



i have some motorola 2 ways, but thats about it.

ITT: people who think a revolution might happen, and are orgasming over it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:11:20 PM EDT
The way people communicated 15 years ago.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:11:39 PM EDT
Not that it would matter at that point, but I'd say the most effective way would be Hometown.

Through Hometown, you can interact with members in state, in county, in city, and on your block.

The longest-posting/most-respected members from each state would most likely know a way of contacting their counterparts in other states.

There would be a huge loss of people simply through apathy and fear, but there would be a core with a heartfelt love of ARFCOM and freedom who would use their member contacts to pass information.

However, pretty much everyone in Team would be rounded up immediately (self-included), and only a handful would escape the purge, most likely not enough to form a ARFCOM-based resistance.

Uh, Wolverines and stuff?  
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:24:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rasanders22:
The way people communicated 15 years ago.


I was 11 years old 15 years ago... seriously guys, with the media so discombobulated into liberalism as it is, how would we organize.  And no, I'm not talking of an arfcomm rebellion or getting a hard on at thinking there could be a revolution, that's the last thing I want, I'd love to see change happen the right way, I just don't see it happening.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:26:33 PM EDT

John has a long mustache.

The chair is against the wall.

WOLVERINES!

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:32:35 PM EDT
Simple.........



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:33:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 10:33:41 PM EDT by stealbear]
Will communicate with white mans empty sweet corn cans and strings of Buffalo's back,
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:35:00 PM EDT
A blog site.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:35:30 PM EDT
HAM radio...I talk to people all over the world.  So yeah take my computer/phones/ect.  As long as they don't get my radio I'll make it alright
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:36:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 10:37:41 PM EDT
Xbox Live
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:38:08 PM EDT
I should have known better than to think anybody other than one or two people would have any REAL input, GD is a joke...  I don't know why I'm even posting here... flame away
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:44:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tumbler:
All tinfoil and koolaid aside, I think it's a legitimate concern that if the time came where the govt. shut down arfcom and all major pro-gun boards and forums to try and stop us from organizing and communicating for necessity of liberating America once again, how would we go about organizing and communicating with eachother.  Not that I think this is remotely possible, but hypothetically, if arfcom and many others shut down tomorrow, how would we get organized?  Are there any mass email storages with members addresses?  How would we really organize and communicate?




Arguing by telegraph is like winning the special olympics..........

No seriously if you didn't have their info before the massive lockdown, we would have to infiltrate WOW or the Pez forums, and use code.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:46:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 11:48:05 PM EDT by NathanL]
Originally Posted By Red-Bucket-98:
John has a long mustache.

The chair is against the wall.

WOLVERINES!



QUIT SAYING THAT.

I hate that. Those 2 phrases originate on June 5, 1944 the night before the invasion of the contienent. It was a coded signal to let the underground/resistance know the landings were coming and to get ready.

I know it was background play in Red Dawn but people use it to mean something it doesn't. Red Dawn wasn't even the first movie it appeared in. It was correctly used in the move "The longest day" first and historically accurate.

You use it like it means bad times are here....when it actually was first used (and where they got it from) was that the end of the bad times were at hand.

It's like saying CLIP when you mean magazine.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:50:47 PM EDT
Contact your local militia.  They usually hold end of the world circle jerks like the one you're fantasizing about.

Imma use mah gunz on the gubmint!

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:56:08 PM EDT
Tumbler has a valid question. All the hacks on here that add nothing but crap jokes do so because they have no clue what to do if this really became reality.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 11:59:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
Simple.........



http://ndobos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bat-signal.jpeg


Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:04:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tumbler:
I should have known better than to think anybody other than one or two people would have any REAL input, GD is a joke...  I don't know why I'm even posting here... flame away



I gave up a while ago. I stop by from time to time to see what the dumb asses are up to. When the SHTF hopefully they did a little planning because their few cans of canned food and 2 boxes of ammo won't last them an afternoon.

You best bet is to buy as much gear, guns, ammo, food as possible and make a plan with locals who are also intrested in surviving a SHT sernerio. Folks on my block are well covered. We have a plan in place......you are more then welcome if you have something to bring to the table.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:07:40 AM EDT
I will mark the areas I conquer with giraffe urine to alert friendlies to my presence....
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:07:48 AM EDT
GD is becoming saturated with tin foil shtf paranoid types.  I stop by once in a while to see what the crazies are posting.  You can get a good laugh if you're in the right mood.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:27:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SkagSig40:
Tumbler has a valid question. All the hacks on here that add nothing but crap jokes do so because they have no clue what to do if this really became reality.



No,... Because every internet tough guy really doesn't want to face reality.

The hotpocket still has 1 minute to go and they will be unwrapping the pre-feeding twinkies while watching the new release of WALLY. Suddenly the power and internet are gone. The never will happen fantasy just came true, now what?

Most Americans can't cook their own meals, can't start a fire without a bic lighter. They wouldn't be able to hack a SHTF senario for 5 minutes before their demise. So really these people, a 400lb old guy,  they have 25K in ammo ( shoot less than 100 rds per year) and a semi automatic rifle that some how being in possesion of this magical weapon will turn them into a HSLD fighter. These are internet pipe dreams and nothing more, they really don't deserve a serious answer.  

Thats why 90% of us never take these underground resistance threads seriously. Someone that truly is fighting for freedom in a urban warfare battlefield or Red Dawn foreign invasion, won't be doing it from a computer posting on forums looking for a meeting place.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:30:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NathanL:
Originally Posted By Red-Bucket-98:
John has a long mustache.

The chair is against the wall.

WOLVERINES!



QUIT SAYING THAT.

I hate that. Those 2 phrases originate on June 5, 1944 the night before the invasion of the contienent. It was a coded signal to let the underground/resistance know the landings were coming and to get ready.

I know it was background play in Red Dawn but people use it to mean something it doesn't. Red Dawn wasn't even the first movie it appeared in. It was correctly used in the move "The longest day" first and historically accurate.

You use it like it means bad times are here....when it actually was first used (and where they got it from) was that the end of the bad times were at hand.

It's like saying CLIP when you mean magazine.


Relax...it's a quote from a movie.  I really don't think we need to hear a lecture about historical inaccuracies in hollywood movies.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:33:40 AM EDT
I like tinfoil theorys. Because 1 out of 100 turns out true, or a shade of the truth.  For example, the doomsday scenarios.  I think, that a financial collapse of the US economy is very possible. Because 1) It happens to every nation eventually 2) It has happened to us before.

So add to a financial collapse the new cultural reality of our nations diversity/balkinization, there is a reasonable chance for regional violance and conflict over scarce resources. Top it off with psychopaths or bands of psychopaths (la raza, panthers, kkk) engaging in random violence.  It is also possible that a major depression would bring out the best in some people, and tighten our unity as a nation and a renewed commitment to traditional values.

I do not see this as the end, but a "reset push". Might take  months, maybe years, but think the nation would rebuild with a renewed dedication to the Constitution.

So getting back to the original point... maybe I need to learn HAM radio.  But.. can't the black helicopters triangulate on my position with HAM?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:34:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 12:37:52 AM EDT by packingXDs]
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
A blog site.


Short of shutting down the internet to the entire country, the above (and similar) would be the most viable. You can get servers hosted outside the US where our laws mean jack shit.

ETA:

I actually discussed a similar thing with a friend of mine who travels a lot. Told him if times were bad, perhaps I would give him a completely configured server and some money. Then he could simply take it overseas, hook it up to the net, and I would be able to run a server without any gov controls to worry about.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:37:26 AM EDT
I'll leave a trail of bread crumbs.  You all can follow me to the secret, anti government, militia fortress hideaway.  BYOTF.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:39:06 AM EDT
If ARFCOM goes down the other members will be easy to spot. They'll be the "suddenly productive" people.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:46:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tumbler:
I should have known better than to think anybody other than one or two people would have any REAL input, GD is a joke...  I don't know why I'm even posting here... flame away


"Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer." is far more the rule around here than "There are NO stupid questions."

It appears that even you have recognized that some here think your question was stupid.  If it makes you feel any better.  I don't think it or you are stupid.  (Stupid as in a measure of cognitive ability.)  I do however think it shows an overactive imagination.

Voice radio (Ham, CB, GPRS, etc) is however the most logical answer as it is the just about the only method not easily interrupted by the dark forces of the evil overlords.  CW is better but most of us are extremely rusty in that skill, and most people have neither the time nor inclination to become proficient.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:46:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:47:29 AM EDT



Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:

Simple.........
http://ndobos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bat-signal.jpeg
Can't someone photoshop that to a BFL?




Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:50:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gringopistolero:
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
Tactical smoke signals of course.


or HAM for those so equipped.


HAM, now thats just silly.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:51:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
A blog site.


Short of shutting down the internet to the entire country, the above (and similar) would be the most viable. You can get servers hosted outside the US where our laws mean jack shit.

ETA:

I actually discussed a similar thing with a friend of mine who travels a lot. Told him if times were bad, perhaps I would give him a completely configured server and some money. Then he could simply take it overseas, hook it up to the net, and I would be able to run a server without any gov controls to worry about.


And they can't unplug the telephone system? grow up.  Assuming the OP was serious, he clearly recognizes that any communications media relying on any kind of infrastructure is toast.  And you are relatively clueless.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:56:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PaDanby:
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
A blog site.


Short of shutting down the internet to the entire country, the above (and similar) would be the most viable. You can get servers hosted outside the US where our laws mean jack shit.

ETA:

I actually discussed a similar thing with a friend of mine who travels a lot. Told him if times were bad, perhaps I would give him a completely configured server and some money. Then he could simply take it overseas, hook it up to the net, and I would be able to run a server without any gov controls to worry about.


And they can't unplug the telephone system? grow up.  Assuming the OP was serious, he clearly recognizes that any communications media relying on any kind of infrastructure is toast.  And you are relatively clueless.



Ok well let's be honest. The .gov shuts down the internet and the telephone system.....why are you worried about contacting other ARFCOM members?

Seriously maybe I'm missing the point. Educate me.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:57:30 AM EDT
You people are totally missing out on the benefits of communicating with giraffe urine..
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 12:58:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Carrier pigeons.

Mine will have a message that says +1



Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:02:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:07:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2008 1:09:22 AM EDT by packingXDs]
Originally Posted By PaDanby:
And they can't unplug the telephone system? grow up.  Assuming the OP was serious, he clearly recognizes that any communications media relying on any kind of infrastructure is toast.  And you are relatively clueless.


For someone so quick to call someone clueless you sure do not seem to understand how the internet works. For fucks sake it was originally developed for the DoD to communicate in the event of nuclear war and things did go sideways. Not too mention that most internet communications are not run through a phone line. To a single end user, maybe. Infrastructure, not really. As I said in my previous post, short of the end of the fucking world or the gov shutting down the entire internet/telcom infrastructure, it would be a viable plan. If it got that bad, contacting people on ARF would probably be the last of my concerns.

There was also no qualifiers for what type of situation we are discussing. Are we talking about the entire world going under in TEOTWAWKI, SHTF just in the US, SHTF in your state, or what?
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 1:36:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Originally Posted By PaDanby:
And they can't unplug the telephone system? grow up.  Assuming the OP was serious, he clearly recognizes that any communications media relying on any kind of infrastructure is toast.  And you are relatively clueless.


For someone so quick to call someone clueless you sure do not seem to understand how the internet works. For fucks sake it was originally developed for the DoD to communicate in the event of nuclear war and things did go sideways. Not too mention that most internet communications are not run through a phone line. To a single end user, maybe. Infrastructure, not really. As I said in my previous post, short of the end of the fucking world or the gov shutting down the entire internet/telcom infrastructure, it would be a viable plan. If it got that bad, contacting people on ARF would probably be the last of my concerns.

There was also no qualifiers for what type of situation we are discussing. Are we talking about the entire world going under in TEOTWAWKI, SHTF just in the US, SHTF in your state, or what?


damn right, the porn, man, save the porn!
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 3:47:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:01:06 AM EDT
I'd say this is a good reason to start going to hometown forum gatherings, if you haven't already.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:05:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rasanders22:
The way people communicated 15 years ago.


A newsletter?  Thats going to be fun to read page after page of +1 replies.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:21:56 AM EDT
Here is a question for you.

If times get bad......why would you even think of wanting to have a conversation with any one here.  Half of us are morons  and the other half are gov. agents with a note pad.

I am one of the morons..honest.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:28:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Originally Posted By rasanders22:
The way people communicated 15 years ago.


A newsletter?  Thats going to be fun to read page after page of +1 replies.


But wont the mods simply delete the replies?















Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:36:41 AM EDT
One round outgoing for "No."

Magdump for "Fuck no."

Everything else should pretty much work itself out.
Link Posted: 11/20/2008 4:37:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NathanL:
Originally Posted By PaDanby:
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
A blog site.


Short of shutting down the internet to the entire country, the above (and similar) would be the most viable. You can get servers hosted outside the US where our laws mean jack shit.

ETA:

I actually discussed a similar thing with a friend of mine who travels a lot. Told him if times were bad, perhaps I would give him a completely configured server and some money. Then he could simply take it overseas, hook it up to the net, and I would be able to run a server without any gov controls to worry about.


And they can't unplug the telephone system? grow up.  Assuming the OP was serious, he clearly recognizes that any communications media relying on any kind of infrastructure is toast.  And you are relatively clueless.



Ok well let's be honest. The .gov shuts down the internet and the telephone system.....why are you worried about contacting other ARFCOM members?

Seriously maybe I'm missing the point. Educate me.


OK I'll give it a shot.  Take what we have here.  A group of like-minded patriots, some more capable than others but all possessing skillsets that could prove valuable in a time of crisis (be it a large scale natural disaster or large scale uprising, whatever gets you hard.)  Teh interwebs, while being a rather sturdy critter, can also be very fragile and easily broken.  If a natural disater occurs, I, like many others, are going to seek a group to get with for mutual benefit (survive & thrive).  National uprising... there will need to be coordinated efforts to achieve goals on a national level.  Either way, without some form of communication you will be lost.

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