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Posted: 4/16/2008 10:15:33 PM EST
Wasn't there some trickery involved? I forgot the details.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:17:30 PM EST
Sheer stupidity
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:19:13 PM EST
Clinton.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:19:21 PM EST
Billy boy and trickery
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:19:31 PM EST
it involved democrats... say no more


saying democrats + stupidity is is like saying the black rubber tire was also black
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:22:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wasn't there some trickery involved? I forgot the details.


From what I remember, it started in early 2004 with Clinton's State of the Union address where he mentioned banning certain weapons. There is a whole history of it on the internet, I can remember maybe on Wiki
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:25:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/16/2008 10:29:40 PM EST by Triumph955i]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban

"The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was only a small part (title XI, subtitle A) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act."

From The Library of Congress

Titled as "Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act".

If you hear these or similar words, thats how they will get it passed. Bet on it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:26:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By MouseBoy:

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wasn't there some trickery involved? I forgot the details.


From what I remember, it started in early 2004 with Clinton's State of the Union address where he mentioned banning certain weapons. There is a whole history of it on the internet, I can remember maybe on Wiki


Didn't it happen way before 2004
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:28:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By MouseBoy:

Originally Posted By Mateba:
Wasn't there some trickery involved? I forgot the details.


From what I remember, it started in early 2004 with Clinton's State of the Union address where he mentioned banning certain weapons. There is a whole history of it on the internet, I can remember maybe on Wiki


ended in 04, started in 94
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:28:51 PM EST
What I mean is I remember the vote counting taking place when some opponents weren't present or something like that??
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 10:30:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mateba:
What I mean is I remember the vote counting taking place when some opponents weren't present or something like that??


I think you're thinking of the '86 FOPA (which was a great bill apart from one tiny bit banning the sale of new machine guns.)
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 12:56:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban

"The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was only a small part (title XI, subtitle A) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act."

From The Library of Congress

Titled as "Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act".

If you hear these or similar words, thats how they will get it passed. Bet on it.


Sounds about right. Slipped in at the 12th hour before the association that could do anything about it, caught it as I can recall.

Whatever it was it was very slippery tactics, so yes, bet on it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 12:59:37 AM EST
Democrats. Some of you people better wake up.

Link Posted: 4/17/2008 1:07:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 1:07:53 AM EST by Thumbtack]
Well, if you woke up and saw that ugly assbag hilldog, you'd want to ban high capacity "assault" weapons too... less chance of you getting shot for getting some under-the-table action.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 1:08:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By bdgenz:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban

"The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was only a small part (title XI, subtitle A) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act."

From The Library of Congress

Titled as "Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act".

If you hear these or similar words, thats how they will get it passed. Bet on it.



Sounds about right. Slipped in at the 12th hour before the association that could do anything about it, caught it as I can recall.

Whatever it was it was very slippery tactics, so yes, bet on it.


Thats about it

But when big legislation comes along, the rats give it a name that misleads the public.

The AWB was buried in what Clinton nick-named his "Crime Bill"

It made it easy for supporters to get behind it, and made anyone opposing it look like they were 'pro-crime'



Link Posted: 4/17/2008 3:44:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By redfisher:

Originally Posted By bdgenz:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_assault_weapons_ban

"The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was only a small part (title XI, subtitle A) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act."

From The Library of Congress

Titled as "Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act".

If you hear these or similar words, thats how they will get it passed. Bet on it.



Sounds about right. Slipped in at the 12th hour before the association that could do anything about it, caught it as I can recall.

Whatever it was it was very slippery tactics, so yes, bet on it.


Thats about it

But when big legislation comes along, the rats give it a name that misleads the public.

The AWB was buried in what Clinton nick-named his "Crime Bill"

It made it easy for supporters to get behind it, and made anyone opposing it look like they were 'pro-crime'





How's that different than every other piece of legistlation (ala the "Patriot Act"). The real problem here if this is the case is our legislators don't freaking read the laws they pass (and admit it openly in that one news interview).
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:26:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mateba:
How was the last AWB passed?


there were more yes's than no's
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:27:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 4:27:39 AM EST by david_g17]

Originally Posted By klutz347:

Originally Posted By Mateba:
How was the last AWB passed?


there were more yes's than no's


It was tied in the Senate.

Al Gore as VP cast the deciding vote.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:29:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By klutz347:

Originally Posted By Mateba:
How was the last AWB passed?


there were more yes's than no's


IIRC, it was by one vote. Regardless, the subsequent congressional elections was a bloodbath for the democrats.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:31:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:35:44 AM EST
Legislators can title a bill anything they wish. They can call a bill taking away everyone's voting rights the "Save the puppies and kittens act."

It's how they sell these things to the public.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:38:59 AM EST
The AW ban was stupid anyway, you could still by an ak or ar it was just neutered
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:52:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 4:53:28 AM EST by 0699TeufelHnd]
H.R. 3355 [103rd]: Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (Vote On Passage)

Senate Vote #384 --- Nov 19, 1993

Result: Bill Passed

Related Bill: H.R. 3355 [103rd]: Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994

Totals & Party Breakdown

Total

Ayes: 95

Nays: 4

No Vote: 1

Alabama
Aye AL Heflin, Howell
Aye AL Shelby, Richard [R]
Alaska
Aye AK Murkowski, Frank [R]
Aye AK Stevens, Ted [R]
Arizona
Aye AZ DeConcini, Dennis
Aye AZ McCain, John [R]
Arkansas
Aye AR Bumpers, Dale
Aye AR Pryor, David
California
Aye CA Boxer, Barbara [D]
Aye CA Feinstein, Dianne [D]
Colorado
Aye CO Brown, George
Aye CO Campbell, Ben [R]
Connecticut
Aye CT Dodd, Christopher [D]
Aye CT Lieberman, Joseph
Delaware
Aye DE Biden, Joseph [D]
Aye DE Roth, William
Florida
Aye FL Graham, Bob [D]
Aye FL Mack, Connie
Georgia
Aye GA Coverdell, Paul
Aye GA Nunn, Samuel
Hawaii
Aye HI Akaka, Daniel [D]
Aye HI Inouye, Daniel [D]
Idaho
Aye ID Craig, Larry [R]
Aye ID Kempthorne, Dirk
Illinois
Aye IL Moseley Braun, Carol
Nay IL Simon, Paul
Indiana
Aye IN Coats, Daniel
Aye IN Lugar, Richard [R]
Iowa
Aye IA Grassley, Charles [R]
Aye IA Harkin, Thomas [D]
Kansas
Aye KS Dole, Robert
Aye KS Kassebaum, Nancy
Kentucky
Aye KY Ford, Wendell
Aye KY McConnell, Mitch [R]
Louisiana
Aye LA Breaux, John [D]
Aye LA Johnston, John
Maine
Aye ME Cohen, William
Aye ME Mitchell, George
Maryland
Aye MD Mikulski, Barbara [D]
Aye MD Sarbanes, Paul [D]
Massachusetts
Aye MA Kennedy, Edward [D]
Aye MA Kerry, John [D]
Michigan
Aye MI Levin, Carl [D]
Aye MI Riegle, Donald
Minnesota
Aye MN Wellstone, Paul [D]
Nay MN Durenberger, David
Mississippi
Aye MS Cochran, Thad [R]
Aye MS Lott, Trent [R]
Missouri
Aye MO Bond, Christopher [R]
Aye MO Danforth, John
Montana
Aye MT Baucus, Max [D]
Aye MT Burns, Conrad [R]
Nebraska
Aye NE Exon, J.
Aye NE Kerrey, J.
Nevada
Aye NV Bryan, Richard
Aye NV Reid, Harry [D]
New Hampshire
Aye NH Gregg, Judd [R]
Aye NH Smith, Bob [R]
New Jersey
Aye NJ Bradley, William
Aye NJ Lautenberg, Frank [D]
New Mexico
Aye NM Bingaman, Jeff [D]
Aye NM Domenici, Pete [R]
New York
Aye NY D'Amato, Alfonse
Aye NY Moynihan, Daniel
North Carolina
Aye NC Faircloth, Duncan
Aye NC Helms, Jesse [R]
North Dakota
Aye ND Conrad, Kent [D]
No Vote ND Dorgan, Byron [D]
Ohio
Aye OH Glenn, John
Aye OH Metzenbaum, Howard
Oklahoma
Aye OK Boren, David
Aye OK Nickles, Don [R]
Oregon
Aye OR Packwood, Robert
Nay OR Hatfield, Mark
Pennsylvania
Aye PA Specter, Arlen [R]
Aye PA Wofford, Harris
Rhode Island
Aye RI Chafee, John
Aye RI Pell, Claiborne
South Carolina
Aye SC Hollings, Ernest [D]
Aye SC Thurmond, J. [R]
South Dakota
Aye SD Daschle, Thomas [D]
Aye SD Pressler, Larry
Tennessee
Aye TN Mathews, Harlan
Aye TN Sasser, James
Texas
Aye TX Gramm, Phil [R]
Aye TX Hutchison, Kay [R]
Utah
Aye UT Bennett, Robert [R]
Aye UT Hatch, Orrin [R]
Vermont
Aye VT Jeffords, James
Aye VT Leahy, Patrick [D]
Virginia
Aye VA Robb, Charles
Aye VA Warner, John [R]
Washington
Aye WA Gorton, T.
Aye WA Murray, Patty [D]
West Virginia
Aye WV Byrd, Robert [D]
Aye WV Rockefeller, John [D]
Wisconsin
Aye WI Kohl, Herbert [D]
Nay WI Feingold, Russell [D]
Wyoming
Aye WY Simpson, Alan
Aye WY Wallop, Malcolm
link
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:52:54 AM EST
Some repubs bent over backwards
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 5:01:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 5:04:44 AM EST by 0699TeufelHnd]
Nov 3, 1993: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative's position was not kept.

Aug 21, 1994: After passing both the Senate and House, a conference committee is created to work out differences between the Senate and House versions of the bill. A conference report resolving those differences passed in the House of Representatives, paving the way for enactment of the bill, by roll call vote. The totals were 235 Ayes, 195 Nays, 5 Present/Not Voting.

Ayes: 235

Nays: 195

No Vote: 5

Alabama
No Vote AL-1 Callahan, H. [R]
Nay AL-2 Everett, Terry [R]
Aye AL-3 Browder, John
Nay AL-4 Bevill, Tom
Aye AL-5 Cramer, Robert [D]
Nay AL-6 Bachus, Spencer [R]
Nay AL-7 Hilliard, Earl [D]
Alaska
Nay AK-0 Young, Donald [R]
Arizona
Aye AZ-1 Coppersmith, Samuel
Aye AZ-2 Pastor, Edward [D]
Nay AZ-3 Stump, Robert [R]
Aye AZ-4 Kyl, Jon [R]
Aye AZ-5 Kolbe, James [R]
Aye AZ-6 English, Karan
Arkansas
Aye AR-1 Lincoln, Blanche [D]
Aye AR-2 Thornton, Raymond
Nay AR-3 Hutchinson, Tim [R]
Nay AR-4 Dickey, Jay [R]
California
Aye CA-1 Hamburg, Daniel
Nay CA-2 Herger, Walter [R]
Aye CA-3 Fazio, Victor
Nay CA-4 Doolittle, John [R]
Aye CA-5 Matsui, Robert [D]
Aye CA-6 Woolsey, Lynn [D]
Aye CA-7 Miller, George [D]
Aye CA-8 Pelosi, Nancy [D]
Nay CA-9 Dellums, Ronald
Nay CA-10 Baker, William
Nay CA-11 Pombo, Richard [R]
Aye CA-12 Lantos, Tom [D]
Aye CA-13 Stark, Fortney [D]
Aye CA-14 Eshoo, Anna [D]
Aye CA-15 Mineta, Norman
Aye CA-16 Edwards, William
Aye CA-17 Farr, Sam [D]
Aye CA-18 Condit, Gary [D]
Aye CA-19 Lehman, Richard
Aye CA-20 Dooley, Calvin [D]
Nay CA-21 Thomas, William [R]
Aye CA-22 Huffington, Michael
Aye CA-23 Gallegly, Elton [R]
Aye CA-24 Beilenson, Anthony
Nay CA-25 McKeon, Howard [R]
Aye CA-26 Berman, Howard [D]
Nay CA-27 Moorhead, Carlos
Nay CA-28 Dreier, David [R]
Aye CA-29 Waxman, Henry [D]
Aye CA-30 Becerra, Xavier [D]
Aye CA-31 Martinez, Matthew [D]
Aye CA-32 Dixon, Julian [D]
Aye CA-33 Roybal-Allard, Lucille [D]
Aye CA-34 Torres, Esteban
Nay CA-35 Waters, Maxine [D]
Aye CA-36 Harman, Jane [D]
No Vote CA-37 Tucker, Walter
Aye CA-38 Horn, Stephen [R]
Nay CA-39 Royce, Edward [R]
Nay CA-40 Lewis, Jerry [R]
Nay CA-41 Kim, Jay
Aye CA-42 Brown, George [D]
Nay CA-43 Calvert, Ken [R]
Nay CA-44 McCandless, Alfred
Nay CA-45 Rohrabacher, Dana [R]
Nay CA-46 Dornan, Robert
Nay CA-47 Cox, C. [R]
Nay CA-48 Packard, Ron [R]
Aye CA-49 Schenk, Lynn
Aye CA-50 Filner, Bob [D]
Nay CA-51 Cunningham, Randall [R]
Nay CA-52 Hunter, Duncan [R]
Colorado
Aye CO-1 Schroeder, Patricia
Aye CO-2 Skaggs, David
Nay CO-3 McInnis, Scott [R]
Nay CO-4 Allard, Wayne [R]
Nay CO-5 Hefley, Joel [R]
Nay CO-6 Schaefer, Daniel
Connecticut
Aye CT-1 Kennelly, Barbara
Aye CT-2 Gejdenson, Sam [D]
Aye CT-3 DeLauro, Rosa [D]
Aye CT-4 Shays, Christopher [R]
Aye CT-5 Franks, Gary
Aye CT-6 Johnson, Nancy [R]
Delaware
Aye DE-0 Castle, Michael [R]
Florida
Nay FL-1 Hutto, Earl
Nay FL-2 Peterson, Douglas
Aye FL-3 Brown, Corrine [D]
Nay FL-4 Fowler, Tillie [R]
Nay FL-5 Thurman, Karen [D]
Nay FL-6 Stearns, Clifford [R]
Nay FL-7 Mica, John [R]
Nay FL-8 McCollum, Bill [R]
Nay FL-9 Bilirakis, Michael [R]
Nay FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
Aye FL-11 Gibbons, Sam
Aye FL-12 Canady, Charles [R]
Nay FL-13 Miller, Dan [R]
Nay FL-14 Goss, Porter [R]
Aye FL-15 Bacchus, James
Nay FL-16 Lewis, Thomas
Aye FL-17 Meek, Carrie [D]
Aye FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
Aye FL-19 Johnston, Harry
Aye FL-20 Deutsch, Peter [D]
Aye FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [R]
Aye FL-22 Shaw, E. [R]
Aye FL-23 Hastings, Alcee [D]
Georgia
Nay GA-1 Kingston, Jack [R]
Aye GA-2 Bishop, Sanford [D]
Nay GA-3 Collins, Michael [R]
Nay GA-4 Linder, John [R]
Nay GA-5 Lewis, John [D]
Nay GA-6 Gingrich, Newton [R]
Aye GA-7 Darden, George
No Vote GA-8 Rowland, James
Nay GA-9 Deal, Nathan [R]
Aye GA-10 Johnson, Clete
Aye GA-11 McKinney, Cynthia [D]
Hawaii
Aye HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil [D]
Aye HI-2 Mink, Patsy [D]
Idaho
Nay ID-1 LaRocco, Larry
Nay ID-2 Crapo, Michael [R]
Illinois
Aye IL-1 Rush, Bobby [D]
Aye IL-2 Reynolds, Mel
Aye IL-3 Lipinski, William [D]
Aye IL-4 Gutierrez, Luis [D]
Aye IL-5 Rostenkowski, Daniel
Nay IL-6 Hyde, Henry [R]
Aye IL-7 Collins, Cardiss
Nay IL-8 Crane, Philip [R]
Aye IL-9 Yates, Sidney
Aye IL-10 Porter, John [R]
Aye IL-11 Sangmeister, George
Aye IL-12 Costello, Jerry [D]
Nay IL-13 Fawell, Harris
Nay IL-14 Hastert, J. [R]
Nay IL-15 Ewing, Thomas [R]
Nay IL-16 Manzullo, Donald [R]
Aye IL-17 Evans, Lane [D]
Nay IL-18 Michel, Robert
Aye IL-19 Poshard, Glenn
Aye IL-20 Durbin, Richard [D]
Indiana
Aye IN-1 Visclosky, Peter [D]
Aye IN-2 Sharp, Philip
Aye IN-3 Roemer, Timothy [D]
Aye IN-4 Long Thompson, Jill
Nay IN-5 Buyer, Stephen [R]
Nay IN-6 Burton, Dan [R]
Nay IN-7 Myers, John
Aye IN-8 McCloskey, Francis
Aye IN-9 Hamilton, Lee
Aye IN-10 Jacobs, Andrew
Iowa
Aye IA-1 Leach, James [R]
Nay IA-2 Nussle, James [R]
Nay IA-3 Lightfoot, James
Aye IA-4 Smith, Neal
Aye IA-5 Grandy, Frederick
Kansas
Nay KS-1 Roberts, Pat [R]
Aye KS-2 Slattery, James
Aye KS-3 Meyers, Jan
Aye KS-4 Glickman, Daniel
Kentucky
Nay KY-1 Barlow, Thomas
Nay KY-2 Lewis, Ron [R]
Aye KY-3 Mazzoli, Romano
Nay KY-4 Bunning, Jim [R]
Nay KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
Aye KY-6 Baesler, Henry
Louisiana
Nay LA-1 Livingston, Robert
Aye LA-2 Jefferson, William [D]
Nay LA-3 Tauzin, William [R]
Nay LA-4 Fields, Cleo
Nay LA-5 McCrery, James [R]
Nay LA-6 Baker, Richard [R]
Nay LA-7 Hayes, James
Maine
Aye ME-1 Andrews, Thomas
Aye ME-2 Snowe, Olympia [R]
Maryland
Aye MD-1 Gilchrest, Wayne [R]
Nay MD-2 Bentley, Helen
Aye MD-3 Cardin, Benjamin [D]
Aye MD-4 Wynn, Albert [D]
Aye MD-5 Hoyer, Steny [D]
Nay MD-6 Bartlett, Roscoe [R]
Aye MD-7 Mfume, Kweisi
Aye MD-8 Morella, Constance [R]
Massachusetts
Aye MA-1 Olver, John [D]
Aye MA-2 Neal, Richard [D]
Aye MA-3 Blute, Peter
Aye MA-4 Frank, Barney [D]
Aye MA-5 Meehan, Martin [D]
Aye MA-6 Torkildsen, Peter
Aye MA-7 Markey, Edward [D]
Aye MA-8 Kennedy, Joseph
Aye MA-9 Moakley, John [D]
Aye MA-10 Studds, Gerry
Michigan
Nay MI-1 Stupak, Bart [D]
Nay MI-2 Hoekstra, Peter [R]
Nay MI-3 Ehlers, Vernon [R]
Nay MI-4 Camp, David [R]
Nay MI-5 Barcia, James [D]
Aye MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
Nay MI-7 Smith, Nick [R]
Aye MI-8 Carr, Milton
Aye MI-9 Kildee, Dale [D]
Aye MI-10 Bonior, David [D]
Nay MI-11 Knollenberg, Joseph [R]
Aye MI-12 Levin, Sander [D]
Aye MI-13 Ford, William
Nay MI-14 Conyers, John [D]
Aye MI-15 Collins, Barbara-Rose
Aye MI-16 Dingell, John [D]
Minnesota
Nay MN-1 Penny, Timothy [D]
Aye MN-2 Minge, David [D]
Aye MN-3 Ramstad, James [R]
Aye MN-4 Vento, Bruce [D]
Nay MN-5 Sabo, Martin [D]
Nay MN-6 Grams, Rod
Nay MN-7 Peterson, Collin [D]
Nay MN-8 Oberstar, James [D]
Mississippi
Aye MS-1 Whitten, Jamie
Aye MS-2 Thompson, Bennie [D]
Nay MS-3 Montgomery, Gillespie
Nay MS-4 Parker, Michael
Nay MS-5 Taylor, Gene [D]
Missouri
Nay MO-1 Clay, William
Aye MO-2 Talent, James [R]
Aye MO-3 Gephardt, Richard [D]
Nay MO-4 Skelton, Ike [D]
Aye MO-5 Wheat, Alan
Nay MO-6 Danner, Pat [D]
Nay MO-7 Hancock, Melton
Nay MO-8 Emerson, Norvell
Nay MO-9 Volkmer, Harold
Montana
Nay MT-0 Williams, John
Nebraska
Nay NE-1 Bereuter, Douglas [R]
Aye NE-2 Hoagland, Peter
Nay NE-3 Barrett, Bill [R]
Nevada
Aye NV-1 Bilbray, James
Nay NV-2 Vucanovich, Barbara
New Hampshire
Nay NH-1 Zeliff, William
Aye NH-2 Swett, Richard
New Jersey
Aye NJ-1 Andrews, Robert [D]
Aye NJ-2 Hughes, William
Aye NJ-3 Saxton, H. [R]
Aye NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
Aye NJ-5 Roukema, Marge [R]
Aye NJ-6 Pallone, Frank [D]
Aye NJ-7 Franks, Bob [R]
Aye NJ-8 Klein, Herbert
Aye NJ-9 Torricelli, Robert [D]
Nay NJ-10 Payne, Donald [D]
Nay NJ-11 Gallo, Dean
Aye NJ-12 Zimmer, Richard
Aye NJ-13 Menendez, Robert [D]
New Mexico
Nay NM-1 Schiff, Steven
Nay NM-2 Skeen, Joseph [R]
Aye NM-3 Richardson, William [D]
New York
Aye NY-1 Hochbrueckner, George
Aye NY-2 Lazio, Rick [R]
Aye NY-3 King, Peter [R]
Aye NY-4 Levy, David
Aye NY-5 Ackerman, Gary [D]
Aye NY-6 Flake, Floyd
Aye NY-7 Manton, Thomas
Nay NY-8 Nadler, Jerrold [D]
Aye NY-9 Schumer, Charles [D]
Aye NY-10 Towns, Edolphus [D]
Aye NY-11 Owens, Major [D]
Aye NY-12 Velazquez, Nydia [D]
Aye NY-13 Molinari, Susan
Aye NY-14 Maloney, Carolyn [D]
Nay NY-15 Rangel, Charles [D]
Aye NY-16 Serrano, José [D]
Aye NY-17 Engel, Eliot [D]
Aye NY-18 Lowey, Nita [D]
Nay NY-19 Fish, Hamilton
Nay NY-20 Gilman, Benjamin [R]
Aye NY-21 McNulty, Michael [D]
Nay NY-22 Solomon, Gerald
Aye NY-23 Boehlert, Sherwood [R]
Nay NY-24 McHugh, John [R]
Aye NY-25 Walsh, James [R]
Aye NY-26 Hinchey, Maurice [D]
Nay NY-27 Paxon, L.
Aye NY-28 Slaughter, Louise [D]
Aye NY-29 LaFalce, John [D]
Aye NY-30 Quinn, Jack [R]
Aye NY-31 Houghton, Amory [R]
North Carolina
Aye NC-1 Clayton, Eva [D]
No Vote NC-2 Valentine, Itimous
Aye NC-3 Lancaster, H.
Aye NC-4 Price, David [D]
Aye NC-5 Neal, Stephen
Nay NC-6 Coble, Howard [R]
Aye NC-7 Rose, Charles
Aye NC-8 Hefner, Willie
Nay NC-9 McMillan, John
Nay NC-10 Ballenger, Cass [R]
Nay NC-11 Taylor, Charles [R]
Nay NC-12 Watt, Melvin [D]
North Dakota
Aye ND-0 Pomeroy, Earl [D]
Ohio
Aye OH-1 Mann, David
Nay OH-2 Portman, Robert [R]
Aye OH-3 Hall, Tony [D]
Nay OH-4 Oxley, Michael [R]
Nay OH-5 Gillmor, Paul [R]
Nay OH-6 Strickland, Ted [D]
Aye OH-7 Hobson, David [R]
Nay OH-8 Boehner, John [R]
Aye OH-9 Kaptur, Marcy [D]
Nay OH-10 Hoke, Martin
Nay OH-11 Stokes, Louis
Aye OH-12 Kasich, John [R]
Aye OH-13 Brown, Sherrod [D]
Aye OH-14 Sawyer, Thomas [D]
Aye OH-15 Pryce, Deborah [R]
Nay OH-16 Regula, Ralph [R]
Aye OH-17 Traficant, James [D]
Aye OH-18 Applegate, Douglas
Aye OH-19 Fingerhut, Eric
Oklahoma
Nay OK-1 Inhofe, James [R]
Nay OK-2 Synar, Michael
Nay OK-3 Brewster, William
Aye OK-4 McCurdy, David
Nay OK-5 Istook, Ernest [R]
Nay OK-6 Lucas, Frank [R]
Oregon
Aye OR-1 Furse, Elizabeth
Nay OR-2 Smith, Robert
Aye OR-3 Wyden, Ron [D]
Nay OR-4 DeFazio, Peter [D]
Nay OR-5 Kopetski, Michael
Pennsylvania
Aye PA-1 Foglietta, Thomas
Aye PA-2 Blackwell, Lucien
Aye PA-3 Borski, Robert [D]
Nay PA-4 Klink, Ron [D]
Nay PA-5 Clinger, William
Aye PA-6 Holden, Tim [D]
Aye PA-7 Weldon, W. [R]
Aye PA-8 Greenwood, James [R]
Nay PA-9 Shuster, Bill [R]
Nay PA-10 McDade, Joseph
Nay PA-11 Kanjorski, Paul [D]
Nay PA-12 Murtha, John [D]
Aye PA-13 Margolies-Mezvinsky, Marjorie
Aye PA-14 Coyne, William [D]
Aye PA-15 McHale, Paul
Nay PA-16 Walker, Robert
Nay PA-17 Gekas, George [R]
Nay PA-18 Santorum, Richard [R]
Nay PA-19 Goodling, William [R]
Nay PA-20 Murphy, Austin
Aye PA-21 Ridge, Thomas
Rhode Island
Aye RI-1 Machtley, Ronald
Aye RI-2 Reed, John [D]
South Carolina
Nay SC-1 Ravenel, Arthur
Nay SC-2 Spence, Floyd [R]
Aye SC-3 Derrick, Butler
Nay SC-4 Inglis, Bob [R]
Aye SC-5 Spratt, John [D]
Aye SC-6 Clyburn, James [D]
South Dakota
Aye SD-0 Johnson, Tim [D]
Tennessee
Nay TN-1 Quillen, James
Nay TN-2 Duncan, John [R]
Aye TN-3 Lloyd, Marilyn
Nay TN-4 Cooper, Jim [D]
Aye TN-5 Clement, Robert [D]
Aye TN-6 Gordon, Barton [D]
Nay TN-7 Sundquist, Donald
Nay TN-8 Tanner, John [D]
Aye TN-9 Ford, Harold
Texas
Aye TX-1 Chapman, Jim
Nay TX-2 Wilson, Charles
Nay TX-3 Johnson, Samuel [R]
Nay TX-4 Hall, Ralph [R]
Aye TX-5 Bryant, John
Nay TX-6 Barton, Joe [R]
Nay TX-7 Archer, Bill [R]
Nay TX-8 Fields, Jack
Aye TX-9 Brooks, Jack
Aye TX-10 Pickle, James
Aye TX-11 Edwards, Thomas [D]
Nay TX-12 Geren, Preston
Nay TX-13 Sarpalius, William
Nay TX-14 Laughlin, Gregory
Nay TX-15 de la Garza, Eligio
Aye TX-16 Coleman, Ronald
Nay TX-17 Stenholm, Charles [D]
No Vote TX-18 Washington, Craig
Nay TX-19 Combest, Larry [R]
Aye TX-20 Gonzalez, Henry
Nay TX-21 Smith, Lamar [R]
Nay TX-22 DeLay, Thomas [R]
Nay TX-23 Bonilla, Henry [R]
Aye TX-24 Frost, Jonas [D]
Aye TX-25 Andrews, Michael
Nay TX-26 Armey, Richard [R]
Nay TX-27 Ortiz, Solomon [D]
Nay TX-28 Tejeda, Frank
Aye TX-29 Green, Raymond [D]
Aye TX-30 Johnson, Eddie [D]
Utah
Nay UT-1 Hansen, James [R]
Aye UT-2 Shepherd, Karen
Nay UT-3 Orton, William
Vermont
Aye VT-0 Sanders, Bernard
Virginia
Nay VA-1 Bateman, Herbert [R]
Nay VA-2 Pickett, Owen [D]
Nay VA-3 Scott, Robert [D]
Nay VA-4 Sisisky, Norman [D]
Nay VA-5 Payne, Lewis
Nay VA-6 Goodlatte, Robert [R]
Nay VA-7 Bliley, Tom [R]
Aye VA-8 Moran, James [D]
Nay VA-9 Boucher, Frederick [D]
Nay VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
Aye VA-11 Byrne, Leslie
Washington
Aye WA-1 Cantwell, Maria [D]
Aye WA-2 Swift, Allan
Nay WA-3 Unsoeld, Jolene
Aye WA-4 Inslee, Jay [D]
Aye WA-5 Foley, Thomas
Aye WA-6 Dicks, Norman [D]
Aye WA-7 McDermott, James [D]
Nay WA-8 Dunn, Jennifer [R]
Aye WA-9 Kreidler, Myron
West Virginia
Nay WV-1 Mollohan, Alan [D]
Nay WV-2 Wise, Robert [D]
Nay WV-3 Rahall, Nick [D]
Wisconsin
Aye WI-1 Barca, Peter
Aye WI-2 Klug, Scott
Nay WI-3 Gunderson, Steven
Aye WI-4 Kleczka, Gerald [D]
Aye WI-5 Barrett, Thomas [D]
Nay WI-6 Petri, Thomas [R]
Aye WI-7 Obey, David [D]
Nay WI-8 Roth, Toby
Nay WI-9 Sensenbrenner, F. [R]
Wyoming
Nay WY-0 Thomas, Craig [R]

Aug 25, 1994: After passing both the Senate and House, a conference committee is created to work out differences between the Senate and House versions of the bill. A conference report resolving those differences passed in the Senate, paving the way for enactment of the bill, by roll call vote. The totals were 61 Ayes, 38 Nays, 1 Present/Not Voting.

Ayes: 61

Nays: 38

No Vote: 1

Alabama
Aye AL Heflin, Howell
Nay AL Shelby, Richard [R]
Alaska
Nay AK Murkowski, Frank [R]
Nay AK Stevens, Ted [R]
Arizona
Aye AZ DeConcini, Dennis
Nay AZ McCain, John [R]
Arkansas
Aye AR Bumpers, Dale
Aye AR Pryor, David
California
Aye CA Boxer, Barbara [D]
Aye CA Feinstein, Dianne [D]
Colorado
Aye CO Campbell, Ben [R]
Nay CO Brown, George
Connecticut
Aye CT Dodd, Christopher [D]
Aye CT Lieberman, Joseph
Delaware
Aye DE Biden, Joseph [D]
Aye DE Roth, William
Florida
Aye FL Graham, Bob [D]
Nay FL Mack, Connie
Georgia
Aye GA Nunn, Samuel
Nay GA Coverdell, Paul
Hawaii
Aye HI Akaka, Daniel [D]
Aye HI Inouye, Daniel [D]
Idaho
Nay ID Craig, Larry [R]
Nay ID Kempthorne, Dirk
Illinois
Aye IL Moseley Braun, Carol
Aye IL Simon, Paul
Indiana
Nay IN Coats, Daniel
Nay IN Lugar, Richard [R]
Iowa
Aye IA Harkin, Thomas [D]
Nay IA Grassley, Charles [R]
Kansas
Aye KS Kassebaum, Nancy
Nay KS Dole, Robert
Kentucky
Aye KY Ford, Wendell
Nay KY McConnell, Mitch [R]
Louisiana
Aye LA Breaux, John [D]
Aye LA Johnston, John
Maine
Aye ME Cohen, William
Aye ME Mitchell, George
Maryland
Aye MD Mikulski, Barbara [D]
Aye MD Sarbanes, Paul [D]
Massachusetts
Aye MA Kennedy, Edward [D]
Aye MA Kerry, John [D]
Michigan
Aye MI Levin, Carl [D]
Aye MI Riegle, Donald
Minnesota
Aye MN Wellstone, Paul [D]
Nay MN Durenberger, David
Mississippi
Nay MS Cochran, Thad [R]
Nay MS Lott, Trent [R]
Missouri
Aye MO Danforth, John
Nay MO Bond, Christopher [R]
Montana
Aye MT Baucus, Max [D]
Nay MT Burns, Conrad [R]
Nebraska
Aye NE Exon, J.
Aye NE Kerrey, J.
Nevada
Aye NV Bryan, Richard
Aye NV Reid, Harry [D]
New Hampshire
Nay NH Gregg, Judd [R]
Nay NH Smith, Bob [R]
New Jersey
Aye NJ Bradley, William
Aye NJ Lautenberg, Frank [D]
New Mexico
Aye NM Bingaman, Jeff [D]
Nay NM Domenici, Pete [R]
New York
Aye NY Moynihan, Daniel
Nay NY D'Amato, Alfonse
North Carolina
Nay NC Faircloth, Duncan
Nay NC Helms, Jesse [R]
North Dakota
Aye ND Conrad, Kent [D]
Aye ND Dorgan, Byron [D]
Ohio
Aye OH Glenn, John
Aye OH Metzenbaum, Howard
Oklahoma
Aye OK Boren, David
Nay OK Nickles, Don [R]
Oregon
Nay OR Hatfield, Mark
Nay OR Packwood, Robert
Pennsylvania
Aye PA Specter, Arlen [R]
Aye PA Wofford, Harris
Rhode Island
Aye RI Chafee, John
Aye RI Pell, Claiborne
South Carolina
Aye SC Hollings, Ernest [D]
Nay SC Thurmond, J. [R]
South Dakota
Aye SD Daschle, Thomas [D]
Nay SD Pressler, Larry
Tennessee
Aye TN Mathews, Harlan
Aye TN Sasser, James
Texas
Nay TX Gramm, Phil [R]
Nay TX Hutchison, Kay [R]
Utah
Nay UT Bennett, Robert [R]
Nay UT Hatch, Orrin [R]
Vermont
Aye VT Jeffords, James
Aye VT Leahy, Patrick [D]
Virginia
Aye VA Robb, Charles
Nay VA Warner, John [R]
Washington
Aye WA Murray, Patty [D]
Nay WA Gorton, T.
West Virginia
Aye WV Byrd, Robert [D]
Aye WV Rockefeller, John [D]
Wisconsin
Aye WI Kohl, Herbert [D]
Nay WI Feingold, Russell [D]
Wyoming
Nay WY Simpson, Alan
No Vote WY Wallop, Malcolm



All Roll Call Votes
Date Where Description Result
Aug 25, 1994 10:24 PM Senate Vote to Pass This Bill/Resolution (Senate) Conference Report Agreed to 61-38, 1 not voting

Aug 21, 1994 7:51 PM House Vote to Pass This Bill/Resolution (House) Passed 235-195, 5 not voting

Nov 19, 1993 9:47 AM Senate Vote to Pass This Bill/Resolution (Senate) Bill Passed 95-4, 1 not voting



Link Posted: 4/17/2008 5:08:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 5:08:45 AM EST by VBC]
IIRC Bill Ruger was the one who came up with the suggestion of limiting civilian magazines to 10 rounds.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 5:35:27 AM EST
I watched the congressional vote on CSPAN.

When the voting clock ran out, the dems kept voting open for a few more minutes with the clock at 00:00 so some other dems could come in and vote for the AWB.

When the clock originally hit zero, there were more votes against it then for it. It was only by the trickery of keeping the voting open after it was technically done did the dems pull it off.

Link Posted: 4/17/2008 6:16:26 AM EST
Bottom line: Dem Congress, Dem President

Trickery: Tied it to a crime bill which put Republicans on the spot (You aren't for law and order, you aren't for police, etc.etc.) plus the procedural tricks already mentioned.

Outside stuff: Bill Ruger and his 10 round stunt to get rid of his competition (foreign auto-pistols). The NRA agreed to the final version which made the GOP guys feel OK in voting yes. This Bill really highlighted the difference between the Fudds and EBR owners. Fudds saw nothing wrong with this Bill.
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