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Posted: 9/18/2004 6:14:48 PM EST
The Boston Globe
September 16, 2004

How to steal an election
By Jeff Jacoby

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/09/16/how_to_steal_an_election/

A RECENT story that didn't get nearly the attention it deserved was the New York Daily News report that 46,000 registered New York City voters are also registered to vote in Florida. Nearly 1,700 of them have had absentee ballots mailed to their home in the other state, and as many as 1,000 have voted twice in the same election. Can 1,000 fraudulent votes change an election? Well, George W. Bush won Florida in 2000 by just 537 votes.

It is illegal to register to vote simultaneously in different jurisdictions, but scofflaws have little to worry about. As the Daily News noted, "efforts to prevent people from registering and voting in more than one state rely mostly on the honor system." Those who break the law rarely face prosecution or serious punishment. It's easy -- and painless -- to cheat.

I learned this firsthand in 1996, when I registered my wife's cat as a voter in Cook County, Ill., Norfolk County, Mass., and Cuyahoga County, Ohio, and then requested absentee ballots from all three venues. My purpose wasn't to cast illegal multiple votes but to demonstrate how vulnerable to manipulation America's election system has become.

It was a simple scam to pull off. "Under the National Voter Registration Act -- the `Motor Voter Law' -- states are required to accept voter registrations by mail," I wrote at the time. "No longer can citizens be asked to make a trip to town hall or the county office. No longer do they have to provide proof of residence or citizenship. In fact, they don't have to exist. Motor Voter obliges election officials to add to the voter list any name mailed in on a properly filled-out registration form. Anyone so registered can then request an absentee ballot -- by mail, of course. The system is not only open to manipulation, it invites it."

As journalist John Fund shows in an alarming new book, "Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy," the United States has an elections system that would be an embarrassment in Honduras or Ghana. It is so unpoliced, he writes, that at least eight of the 9/11 hijackers "were actually able to register to vote in either Virginia or Florida while they made their deadly preparations."

How fouled up are the voter rolls? So fouled up that in some cities there are more registered voters than there are adults. So fouled up that when the Indianapolis Star investigated Indiana's records a few years ago, it discovered that hundreds of thousands of names -- as many as one-fifth of the total -- were "bogus" since the individuals named had moved, died, or gone to prison. So fouled up that when a Louisiana paper filed 25 phony voter registration forms signed only with an "X," 21 were approved and added to the voter list.

Illegal aliens have been registered, too, since under Motor Voter, any recipient of government benefits can sign up to vote, no questions asked. Did that wide-open door to fraud cost former the GOP's Robert Dornan his seat in Congress? An investigation by the Immigration and Naturalization Service following Dornan's 1996 defeat by Democrat Loretta Sanchez found that 4,023 noncitizens may have cast ballots in that election. Dornan lost by 984 votes.

It shouldn't take a degree in rocket science to fix a system this sloppy and chaotic. But not everyone wants to fix it. Some operatives don't mind cheating if it brings more of "their" voters to the polls. Fund cites the findings of Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson and political scientist Larry Sabato, co-authors of a recent book on corruption in American politics. Some liberal activists they interviewed go so far as to justify voter fraud on the grounds that such "extraordinary measures" compensate for the weaker political clout of minorities and the poor.

One simple fix -- requiring every voter to show ID when registering and voting -- would seem to be a no-brainer. Opinion polls show that the vast majority of Americansfavor such a reform. After all, ID is required when boarding an airplane or buying liquor. Why not when voting?

Yet, incredibly, powerful political interests have long fought to block an ID requirement. The NAACP and La Raza liken it to the poll tax that Southern states once used to keep blacks from voting. A Democratic Party official says that "ballot security" and "preventing voter fraud" are simply code for voter suppression. That willingness to play the race card is not merely dishonorable; it is undemocratic. For as Fund notes, "when voters are disenfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting."

The drift toward Third World-caliber elections in the most advanced democracy in the world is scandalous. Then again, if Americans can't be bothered to scrub the voting rolls or to make sure that voters are properly ID'd, maybe they've got the election system they deserve.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:35:04 PM EST
I have a friend who lives in NYC, and he's registering in PA to vote because his parents live in PA. He's a big time commie. I'm not sure if he plans to vote in both states. I'll have to ask him(on tape of course).
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:37:16 PM EST
The article's premise is that Republicans stole the '00 election. The Boston Globe is the NYT's subsidiary / crazy cousin.
Nevermind that Micahel fucking Moore is simultaneously registered in Michigan and New York. Nevermind the FRAUD the Democrats tried to pull in Florida in '00. Nevermind the mockery the Dems make of the election process EVERY election in Chicago.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:39:26 PM EST
I just moved to Florida in June, so I am probably still on the voter rolls back in Virginia, even though I am registered to vote in Florida...
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:40:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By rayra:
The article's premise is that Republicans stole the '00 election. The Boston Globe is the NYT's subsidiary / crazy cousin.
Nevermind that Micahel fucking Moore is simultaneously registered in Michigan and New York. Nevermind the FRAUD the Democrats tried to pull in Florida in '00. Nevermind the mockery the Dems make of the election process EVERY election in Chicago.



The only sure way to beat that kind of treachery is a BUSH LANDSLIDE!!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:42:03 PM EST

It is illegal to register to vote simultaneously in different jurisdictions


Michael Moore has done it.


www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628041moore1.html

New York City Board of Elections records show that Moore, 50, registered to vote in Gotham in 1992, checking off "Democratic" as his party affiliation (below you'll find a copy of his original registration form). He listed his address as the swanky Upper West Side building where he owns a multimillion dollar condominium (Moore's office is on West 57th Street). The filmmaker's New York registration remains active, though he has not voted since an October 2001 Democratic runoff election.



). According to Antrim County records, Moore registered last April from his lakefront spread in northern Michigan
(That would be April 2004)
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:42:35 PM EST
Explain to me exactly how a non citizen can vote. This is beyond my comprehension.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:44:03 PM EST
This shit is just scary.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:50:29 PM EST
Another reason why I am for the violent reinstatement of the Constitution.

Dave S
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:51:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2004 6:52:04 PM EST by Nugz]

Originally Posted By lu380:
I have a friend who lives in NYC, and he's registering in PA to vote because his parents live in PA. He's a big time commie. I'm not sure if he plans to vote in both states. I'll have to ask him(on tape of course).



"I declare under penalty of election falsification I am a citizen of the United States, will have lived in this state for 30 days immediately preceding the next election, and I will be at least 18 years of age at the time of the general election." - Voter Registration Form

It doesnt matter if he doesnt vote in NY. If he is NOT a resident of PA for at least 30 days before the election and registers to vote there he is commiting a crime.

"WHOEVER COMMITS ELECTION FALSIFICATION IS GUILTY OF A FELONY OF THE FIFTH DEGREE" - Voter Registration Form
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:54:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Explain to me exactly how a non citizen can vote. This is beyond my comprehension.



It happens in California all the time. The law is set up in such a way to make it possible.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 6:58:25 PM EST
BTW, folks...the ID requirement can be easily circumvented as well...for instance, if you live in one state, you could just say you "lost" your driver's license and get a duplicate...then you'd have two licenses...if you moved to another state, you could turn in one of the licenses as required when you get your license in the new state, but you'd still have a license from your old state...you could vote in two states, even if they both asked for ID...the solution is to have reciprocity among all the states, so when you register to vote in one state, it cancels your voter registration in the other state...complicated and expensive, yes, but the only reasonably sure way to prevent that type of voter fraud.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:03:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:05:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Explain to me exactly how a non citizen can vote. This is beyond my comprehension.

Explain to me how people vote for their representatives in a democracy.
That can only be done if you abandon the original definition of democracy.



That is because we do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:06:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Explain to me exactly how a non citizen can vote. This is beyond my comprehension.

Explain to me how people vote for their representatives in a democracy.
That can only be done if you abandon the original definition of democracy.



I never mentioned democracy. This is not a democracy as I understand it. Its a representative republic.

Well, its supposed to be.
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:09:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2004 7:19:12 PM EST by Nugz]
"That is because we do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic."

+1

FOR AN EXPLANATION CLICK HERE

ETA: Children are reminded of this every day in schools across the country.

"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." -
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 7:14:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2004 7:14:39 PM EST by DoubleFeed]
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 8:22:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By rayra:
The article's premise is that Republicans stole the '00 election. The Boston Globe is the NYT's subsidiary / crazy cousin.
Nevermind that Micahel fucking Moore is simultaneously registered in Michigan and New York. Nevermind the FRAUD the Democrats tried to pull in Florida in '00. Nevermind the mockery the Dems make of the election process EVERY election in Chicago.



Exactly, I think it is Democrats who register multipal times, have dead people voting and make sure they "Help" their invalid, alshiemer patient relatives vote the "proper" way.

Goerge Bush did not steal anything in Florida, he won the first count, he won the re-count and he won the next re-count where the Dems only wanted certain precincts counted. Then they sued and the Supreme Court ruled properly that George Bush won. Why almost four years later does everyone not know this? Can you say Liberal Media?
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 8:51:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By sum-rifle:

Originally Posted By rayra:
The article's premise is that Republicans stole the '00 election. The Boston Globe is the NYT's subsidiary / crazy cousin.
Nevermind that Micahel fucking Moore is simultaneously registered in Michigan and New York. Nevermind the FRAUD the Democrats tried to pull in Florida in '00. Nevermind the mockery the Dems make of the election process EVERY election in Chicago.



Exactly, I think it is Democrats who register multipal times, have dead people voting and make sure they "Help" their invalid, alshiemer patient relatives vote the "proper" way.



You forgot about them handing out smokes (& booze I think) to the homeless they rounded up to vote (Wisconsin??) or conspiring with crooked judges to keep the polls open later in Democrat controlled areas (St Louis, & they tried to keep the KC polls open also).
Link Posted: 9/18/2004 9:06:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By lu380:
I'll have to ask him(on tape of course).





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