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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:31:58 PM EDT
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BUMP
No one has any ideas??? |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:38:06 PM EDT
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Call your local American Legion.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:39:15 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:40:44 PM EDT
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http://www.wikihow.com/Retire-a-U.S.-Flag
That link says to use one flag for the burning. Then after the main crowd has been dismissed "The leader and color guard should remain to ensure that the Flag is completely consumed, and to burn additional Flags, if any." |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:42:24 PM EDT
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How about doing it the right way? Have the boys in the troop cut the flags into pieces assembly line style. Separate the strips and fields and burn all the red strips, blue stripes and fields during a camp out.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:44:32 PM EDT
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Why not bury them as opposed to burn them?
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:47:29 PM EDT
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I have done about 50 or so I found in an old trunk I got at a tag sale.
Being by myself, I poured a scotch, started a small fire in the pit, and placed one on top while thinking about 1 reason I love this country so much. Then placed each additional on top singly after the previous had completely burned. I know it's not by the book, but it seamed respectful and worked for me. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:49:58 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop. We ARE the Boy Scout troop! 
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:50:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Find a boy scout troop. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:51:03 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop. This, you would make a Life Scout's life a whole lot easier. That's an Eagle project with a bow on top 
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:52:15 PM EDT
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Call your local American Legion. I agree with this. Our Legion retires flags all the time. Someone there will know the best way! |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:52:46 PM EDT
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http://www.wikihow.com/Retire-a-U.S.-Flag That link says to use one flag for the burning. Then after the main crowd has been dismissed "The leader and color guard should remain to ensure that the Flag is completely consumed, and to burn additional Flags, if any." PERFECT! I don't think we will get through all of them in one ceremony, but this sounds reasonable. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:54:29 PM EDT
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Ill take some I could use more flags!
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:57:17 PM EDT
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Call your Fire Department, we have a station in our city that has a mail box painted red/white/yellow with USMC seal on it for flags to be placed in. Every so often a few Marines will come by and check it and "retire" them the proper way.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:57:59 PM EDT
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burn them and take drink/pour one out for the souls lost under the flag...I was taught as a Boyscout to burn it.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:59:59 PM EDT
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Might be worth it go through them and make sure you're not going to burn up a flag with too few stars, as in a really old flag. they're folks that will honor and care for them as a museum piece.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:02:06 PM EDT
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burn them and take drink/pour one out for the souls lost under the flag...I was taught as a Boyscout to burn it. There's absolutely no reason to offer a libation for a flag. If you want to have a drink afterward and toast to the veterans, fine, but there's no reason to pour one out. OP, I like the idea of letting each scout cut one up. Fill out whatever paperwork they need for badges/credit and burn all the collected components in a ceremony. Then burn the rest (or whatever you can get through) afterward. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:06:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: I have done about 50 or so I found in an old trunk I got at a tag sale. Being by myself, I poured a scotch, started a small fire in the pit, and placed one on top while thinking about 1 reason I love this country so much. Then placed each additional on top singly after the previous had completely burned. I know it's not by the book, but it seamed respectful and worked for me. I think respect is the key. It sounds like you did the right thing for your situation. Well done. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:07:18 PM EDT
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Why not bury them as opposed to burn them? It's never to touch the ground |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:10:49 PM EDT
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I've always folded it in the proper fashion so that the stars show, then burn it. The last one I retired I had my kids help me and while we watched it burn, I talked to them about what it means to be an American and what our flag represents.
I doubt they remember 99% of what I said but they do remember that a flag must be burned and never thrown away. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:14:02 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop. +1 We do this all the time. Just drop the off at the local council office. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:15:30 PM EDT
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considering the amount you have I dont believe it would be disrespectful to build a pyre and neatly arrange them all on it. make the pyre sturdy enough so that it will not collapse before the flags have been incinerated completely.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:23:57 PM EDT
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First I would inspect to make sure they need disposing of. If there are good flags in the bunch I think I would try to find a place to donate/sell them. Maybe take out an ad in the paper to give them to people who will use them.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:25:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Might be worth it go through them and make sure you're not going to burn up a flag with too few stars, as in a really old flag. they're folks that will honor and care for them as a museum piece. I love my 48 star, I'll cherish that ragged old flag forever. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:28:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: First I would inspect to make sure they need disposing of. If there are good flags in the bunch I think I would try to find a place to donate/sell them. Maybe take out an ad in the paper to give them to people who will use them. Yeah, if there is a good one, I need a flag |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:28:24 PM EDT
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I'd do one proper and the rest folded properly and placed neatly on the fire.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:43:11 PM EDT
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Be aware that burning flags made of synthetic fabric may be against local ordinances... and having the kids too close to that black smoke is a good lawsuit in the making.
Call the American Legion. They do this often and well. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 4:46:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: By the way, the reason I have ~1000 is because we have a "flag drop" at our town dump. The Pres of the Veterans Assoc. has been collecting them, but it's time they are retired now. Once you're done, talk to this guy about possibly not waiting so long next time.  |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 5:32:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Be aware that burning flags made of synthetic fabric may be against local ordinances... and having the kids too close to that black smoke is a good lawsuit in the making. Call the American Legion. They do this often and well. fuck local ordinance. its the proper way to retire a flag. also federal law protects flag burning of all kinds so that would trump the local ordnance.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:03:21 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop. This, you would make a Life Scout's life a whole lot easier. That's an Eagle project with a bow on top Sure is 
ETA: Be careful not to burn too many at once, my troop did a retirement with over 500 flags and if you pile too much fabric together it won't burn completely. Also, according to our local VFW that we assisted with the retirement ceremony, giving the flags a little boost with some liquid accelerant is not considered disrespectful. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:08:59 PM EDT
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Find a boy scout troop. This, you would make a Life Scout's life a whole lot easier. That's an Eagle project with a bow on top Sure is
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Contact the local council and they will help you hook up with the right folks |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:27:10 PM EDT
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Why not bury them as opposed to burn them? Because good Americans love, honor, and respect that flag and everything it stands for. One of the ways to respect it is to ensure that it never touches the ground. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:30:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:30:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why not bury them as opposed to burn them? you bury things that die, the flag never dies, it is just retired so that a new one can take its place. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 8:43:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2010 9:40:29 PM EDT
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LOL...
he lights the flag and HE CATCHES ON FIRE! I was  too at first until I looked a little closer
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Posted: 10/28/2010 9:45:34 PM EDT
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LOL... he lights the flag and HE CATCHES ON FIRE! I was too at first until I looked a little closerYeah for a sec I was about to do this: 
then I saw the __________________ lighting himself on fire and did a:
(don't know what to call " anti-American protester of Middle Eastern descent" so i'll let you fill in the blank with whatever you want)
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:07:54 PM EDT
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http://www.wikihow.com/Retire-a-U.S.-Flag That link says to use one flag for the burning. Then after the main crowd has been dismissed "The leader and color guard should remain to ensure that the Flag is completely consumed, and to burn additional Flags, if any." PERFECT! I don't think we will get through all of them in one ceremony, but this sounds reasonable. our troop did almost this many one time this way. we ceremonially did four, one for each of the points of the compass. a small group for each flag and at each point of the compass. then once the four were consumed, it was mass flag + a BOATLOAD of scout water time. we had a bonfire O flag and wood etc. took a while but we did it on a campout and it was fine. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:27:31 PM EDT
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You may want to sort through them first... if they've been collected over years, you may have a 48 or 49 star flag mixed in; not sure I'd get in a hurry to incinerate a nice piece of history. Unless they're absolutely shredded, faded, tattered, frayed and disintegrating I'd probably be hanging on to the cotton flags with embroidered stars too.
You may want to check them for size... some of them may be military retirement flags or special ceremonial flags, or flags displayed over state capitols. Yes, I'm a pack rat and would love to look through that collection! True story... my fathers ceremonial flag that was presented to his wife, my step-mother, was then given to my step-brother who chose to fly it over his business in Las Vegas, NV where it was quickly consumed by the ravages of sun and weather and has never been seen since... my heart was broken badly over that whole fiasco. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:30:41 PM EDT
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Let me tell you a story:
Once upon a time, I was a Life Scout. My troop came into possession of about 1500 flags from two military bases and three veterans organizations. One was huuuuuge, like what the car dealerships fly. We built a frame, and attached that one to it so that it was stretched out all the way, then built a pile of pallets behind it. It was a square of two pallets on a side, four total. So we layed down four pallets, and then a layer of 20-30 flags deep, then four more pallets, more flags, etc. All of this was done very reverently. We kept going until the last pallet layer was about six feet tall, and waited for dark. One of the Scoutmasters gave a speech, and meanwhile yours truly was adding gasoline to said pallet pile, and soaking the biiiig flag with denatured alcohol. I was, of course, out of sight. At the end of the speech, one of our newest Scouts lit off the big flag. Seeing those blue flame creep across it was a sight that will stay with me for the rest of my life. After about a minute, I touched off the big pile, and walked around to see it from the front. It was eerily beautiful. We stayed up late that night, adding flags to the fire, and retired all of them that night. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:39:44 PM EDT
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The Union is cut from the stripes and burned as a whole. It's that simple.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:51:20 PM EDT
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you have some pics of the flags. i think old flag would be cool to hang up on a wall.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 10:55:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2010 3:39:00 AM EDT
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you have some pics of the flags. i think old flag would be cool to hang up on a wall. I do not have the flags in my possession yet. The pres. of the Veterans Assoc. still has them. I plan to have the Troop sort through them once we get them |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 3:46:52 AM EDT
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So I am sitting here waiting for my coffee, surfing on my iPhone, and I see this topic
"how to rehire a bunch of fags"
hope the coffe gets here soon |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 3:52:27 AM EDT
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I have always properly folded then burned them. Never heard of cutting them up first.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 4:10:58 AM EDT
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Dispose of privately by burning, without ceremony or disrespect.
This is my condensing of the Marine Corps Flag Manual. I burned more than a few in the Marine Corps. Just place them in a dirt circle in a cardboard box soaking the whole lot in charcoal lighter fluid and lighting it on fire. No salutes, no playing of taps, no cutting it up. I just found a spot where I could rake away anything that might burn but not a place where trash was burned as that would be disrespectful. Flags that are unserviceable are no longer fitting as national ensigns and are no more than old cloth. Page 27 |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 4:29:01 AM EDT
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Be aware that burning flags made of synthetic fabric may be against local ordinances... and having the kids too close to that black smoke is a good lawsuit in the making. Call the American Legion. They do this often and well. fuck local ordinance. its the proper way to retire a flag. also federal law protects flag burning of all kinds so that would trump the local ordnance. Local ordinance and fire codes can piss up a rope when comes to proper disposal of a flag. Fire Marshal Bill can cite me if he wants but he'll get an ear full. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 4:57:16 AM EDT
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I remember them using what looked like a spring frame from some type of fold up bed so the flags where burned off the ground. Got a fire going under it and they added the folded up flags to the top of the rack. They would add more as the fire went on but used a tong to place them on the rack not thrown on. Very somber moment, Highest respect given by every one there. That was 20 years ago and I still remember it well.
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