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Posted: 6/15/2009 12:07:04 AM EST
I live in SC and want to trade rifles with a guy who lives in NC. He's only 2 hours away, so it seems like a waste of time to ship them.



Wondering how to do a legal FTF trade. So far the only answer I can find is "trades between individuals who live in different states MUST go through an FFL, regardless of state or type of firearm." That doesn't fully answer my question.



Do we:
a.) meet halfway, exchange rifles and info, then bring them back to our own FFLs for a transfer (if individuals can ship rifles to an FFL, can individuals personally bring rifles to an FFL?)

b.) meet at an FFL in either state and have that FFL transfer both of them to us (if I can purchase rifles from a NC FFL, can I have a NC FFL transfer a rifle from a trade?)

c.) meet at an FFL in SC to transfer his rifle to me AND then meet at an FFL in NC to transfer my rifle to him (I hope this isn't the answer, because that will complicate things a bit)



Thanks in advance for the help.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 12:19:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 12:20:37 AM EST by Delta]
Originally Posted By cochraneap:
I live in SC and want to trade rifles with a guy who lives in NC. He's only 2 hours away, so it seems like a waste of time to ship them.



Wondering how to do a legal FTF trade. So far the only answer I can find is "trades between individuals who live in different states MUST go through an FFL, regardless of state or type of firearm." That doesn't fully answer my question.



Do we:
a.) meet halfway, exchange rifles and info, then bring them back to our own FFLs for a transfer (if individuals can ship rifles to an FFL, can individuals personally bring rifles to an FFL?)

b.) meet at an FFL in either state and have that FFL transfer both of them to us (if I can purchase rifles from a NC FFL, can I have a NC FFL transfer a rifle from a trade?)

c.) meet at an FFL in SC to transfer his rifle to me AND then meet at an FFL in NC to transfer my rifle to him (I hope this isn't the answer, because that will complicate things a bit)



Thanks in advance for the help.



Some things are better left un-said if you know what I mean.

In Texas you would need an FFL, I believe you will need one also. To do the transfers

A and B sound like they would work
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:04:41 AM EST
Method A is illegal as the transfer has occurred w/o an FFL.

Methods B and C would work, though C is a waste of time IMO since an FFL in either state should be able to help you out.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 5:13:50 AM EST
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b

B. UNLICENSED PERSONS

(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State? [Back]

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]


Meet at an FFL in either state.
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