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1/25/2018 7:38:29 AM
Posted: 8/8/2002 6:20:04 PM EST
My fiance and I have moved into our apartment and been here about 10days. We live in a duplex style house (quite large) with the 2 apartments right next to each other. We are quiet and reserved, they are white trash. It is a single mother and her 2 teenage daughters, whom we have determined "service" several boys. We come home and there are young kids from other houses coming and going some black trash that lives next door on the shared front porch. There is bass "music" playing all the time tonight especially loud, people coming and going all the time etc. Mom is hardly home as she works 50+ hrs a week at a local chain restraunt. We have already decided that in 6 months we are moving out, earlier if it gets way out of hand. Have spoken with police about options already. Told me what I already knew, try friendly route first and ask to lower volume etc after couple times if that fails go to landlord, if that fails call them. Doing it that way in that order may eliminate or keep to a minumum a pissing contest between us. My fiance and I drive nice cars and have nice things and we dont want to come out and find our cars keyed etc. Here is what I thought of...ULF or UHF. Either Ultra low or high sound to make then nautious and unbalanced, I have seen a couple of reputable electronic supplie houses that sell plans and kits to build these. Figured I can wire it into our porch light so when I hit the switch it turns on but the light does not. Totally undetectable. Any other ideas? I need plausable deniability. BrenLover
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Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:36:40 PM EST
Blow the fuses to the building??
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:36:40 PM EST
I feel your pain. While I don't live in a duplex, the former neighborhood hoodlum lived directly across the street from me for 3 years. His name is Jonathan, and his father is a truck driver who is gone all week and his mother works long hours. I have no problems with them trying to make ends meet, but they were doing so at the cost of not raising their children. Jonathan was known to be responsible for several thousand dollars worth of vandalism in the neighborhood, including completely demolishing the neighborhood clubhouse by our pool when it was being remodeled. I'd come home to find tons of teenagers playing basketball at all hours of the night and early morning, kids smoking pot in cars parked outside his and my house, loud music, obscene language, trash on my property like cigarrette packs, soda cans, and even broken glass bottles under my dish on the side of the house where they had thrown bottles at it. I finally made it a point to clean my guns on the balcony while they played their games and be sure to clear my firearms in the driveway after my range trips if they were out. I also made it a point to open carry on my property at all times, and they saw this. After doing this a few times the bullshit stopped. I learned a few months ago, Jonathan is now in prison doing a 30yr sentence for something, though I haven't found out what yet. He's 19, and had previously been to boot camp and was on probation when he was arrested this last time. Whatever he did, it must have been serious to get him 30 years, though with Texas' prison system he'll see a fifth of that if we're lucky before he's let loose on society again. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:38:36 PM EST
Service the daughters then try and reason with them.
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:39:46 PM EST
I will get the website and PM it to you ASAP. This place I found has TONS of cool $hit. If it was not for my fiance living with me I would wire the place with spy cams through the walls with mikes and stuff as there are 2 bedrooms of the neighbors that border our hallway. Record some cheap porn of the daughters and/or mom and "drop" them at random places at the highschool across the street where the daughters go. And with so many guys and kids coming and going there has to be SOME illegal activity, especially with the couple of seedy looking black guys I've seen there. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:46:04 PM EST
I somehow doubt either they or the local cops are gonna see this thread. The daughters are kinda cute but I'm not into nags that have been ridden hard and put away wet. Typical single parent white trash teenage girls, 16 looking like they are 25. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:48:09 PM EST
SorryOciffer your in the same damn position im in. My mom doesn't wanna call the Sheriff because this guy is as mature as a high school student. Worried about having our cars keyed up also for just wanting some peace.
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:50:18 PM EST
ULF- UHF- someone email me! This has potential...
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:52:43 PM EST
If it wasn't for my fiance living with me I would have my revenge, even if I had to bar windows and park my car 2 blocks away. Alas, getting hitched so I have to be "responseable". I would like to take one of my ARs and a beta and just hose their living room and kill that stereo with the "black music" aka Hip Slop and rap. Maybe I should push my speakers up to the wall and play 800 watts of Kenny Rogers. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:53:47 PM EST
C4... Dynamite... nuf said.
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:54:44 PM EST
31 warning shots w/ your AR @ 2:00 in the morning..[:D] No really...ever thought about moving? This would probably save you money and sleep in the long run imo. Good luck, [b][blue]NAKED[/blue][/b]
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:56:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2002 6:58:17 PM EST by NOVA5]
you can give their stereo.. a boost. CB radio, 400 watt linear amp. should pretty much disrupt any home-use electronics. get a directrional antenna... beam directly at their stereo... should make for some.... interesting effects. and they will have no damn clue whats going on or whos doing it. it will just go wonky. note this is illegal... but who the F**k cares? just dont do it long enough to get tracked. aka dont transmit for 20 mins.
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 6:59:25 PM EST
For the CB idea will it screw with all parts of the sterio circutry such as the CD player? What about their cable TV? Can enough spurious noise be generated to play havoc with that as well? If so what is the best cahnnel to use? BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:02:24 PM EST
Alright, I have to be the dissenting opinion here, although that is quite rare for me on this board. I sympathize with your feelings, I live in a toghetherment (apartment just seems so oxy-moronic) building. BUT, instead of taking the appropriate steps, which, you yourself outlined, you're talking about making people sick with UHF devices? First of all, thinking of that solution alone makes me wonder about your judgement. Talk to them politely, if that doesn't work talk the landlord. For cryin out loud, if they key your car, everyone including the police is going to know who did it. If you really think that's going to happen put the webcam out your window, set to take a picture every ten seconds. Your reaching to the extreme (borderline insane) to solve a problem when you haven't even asked nicely yet. If all of the appropriate steps fail, then feel free to sonic the bastards, but you have a duty to do what is right first. Otherwise YOU are the bad citizens, not your noisy neighbors. Mike
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:04:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2002 7:07:31 PM EST by NOVA5]
it can affect most things electronic because its outputting so much power it floods the sidebands. it can acctuly have visual effects on the tvs screen. its akin to a jamming signal, be warned.. its not a very short range. it will affect others. it wont destroy things. they just wont work right while its getting abused by so much energy. if you make this mobile you can also futz with police radar. ;) channel? dunno, play with them all till somthin happens... depending on the effect you could acctuly generate a signal in the stereo that blows out the speakers (granted its about 1 in 6 billon chance...)
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:04:18 PM EST
Go to amazing1.com they have some products that with enough enginuity could produce interesting results. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:09:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By SorryOciffer: Go to amazing1.com they have some products that with enough enginuity could produce interesting results. BrenLover
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you should know this trick by now [;)] [url]www.amazing1.com[/url]
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:10:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2002 7:13:39 PM EST by SorryOciffer]
They are VERY close to me, their living room is next to mine. With a directional antenna (small one) how likely would I affect teh neighbors? The house directly next to ours has trash too so I could care less about them. We will move in 6 months unless it gets real bad. Something along these lines [url]http://www.amazing1.com/security3.htm[/url] I am unsure though if it is audible or inaudible like dog whistle. I want something that I can just plick a switch to when i leave to make them all sick and nautious all day and come home later and turn it off while at home while they recouperate. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:22:05 PM EST
i would gauge the range at 1/4-1/2 mile. i have never experimented with this.the reason for directional antenna is for aiming and lessening effects to unneccesary participents. i would however have ALL your stuff shut off when you do this, i do NOT know its real effects, if it can jam police radar guns well enough to prevent accurate reading it should have a very pronounced effect on other electronic systems ( the reason its not used much to jam radar is 1. its illegal, 2. it will drive your cars computer out of its mind)
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:22:41 PM EST
Look at this too. [url]http://www.amazing1.com/ultra.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:24:09 PM EST
Thanks Nova. If I find other good stuff I will pass it on in this thread. Brenlover
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:28:48 PM EST
THIS looks interesting... should be a good fun read anyhow.. [url]http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/index.html[/url]
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:38:27 PM EST
If you can get a direct line of fire at the speakers, Ice Cubes fired from a slinghot don't leave much behind as evidence. Not that I'm speaking from personal knowledge but I've heard that the round kind you get in bags from the grocery store work better than the oblong kind the fridge spits out FOTBR
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:41:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: If you can get a direct line of fire at the speakers, Ice Cubes fired from a slinghot don't leave much behind as evidence. Not that I'm speaking from personal knowledge but I've heard that the round kind you get in bags from the grocery store work better than the oblong kind the fridge spits out FOTBR
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nope your not. you saw Clark W Grizwold do it in National Lampoons Christmas vaction! remeber the ice missle that took out the rich bitch's stereo? ;)
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:45:23 PM EST
MY my, getting nasty now are we? A couple of ways to do interesting things without long-range effects is to: 1- Look into the interesting things Tesla used to do with resonance. He would attach transducers to structures and at the right frequencies he could get them to start swaying, or cause furniture to start moving around the floor by itself. Picture their dishes falling off table and cupboards in the middle of the night... 2- You are in the same building, so you share an electrical system. Instead of broadcasting RF, inject noise onto the AC line. Something that overwhelms the cheap filters in their stereo but won't bother anything or anyone else. If you can cause a deformed sine wave you could get their clocks to run screwy also. Be sure yours run on batteries first. Have fun and keep us posted.
Link Posted: 8/8/2002 7:53:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2002 8:02:01 PM EST by NOVA5]
we can be a nasty crowd when provoked ;) remember the 3 D's Deceive, Disable, Destroy beware of messing with the power system, if you put the altered sinewave back out of phase you can do serious damage to electronics all over the building if the breakers dont blow first. to do it right you have to intercept their apartments powerline through your frq generator and then on to thier apartment.. but do you really want to play with stuff that dangerous?
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Link Posted: 8/8/2002 8:41:04 PM EST
"... it sounded like a good idea at the time" - Be Cafeful
Link Posted: 8/9/2002 4:04:16 AM EST
We have sperate fuse boxes that are litterally like 50 years old that still use the old pull out fuses. I dont think anything done to theirs will affect mine. Is there anything I can do to inject "noise" into their lines? How about a focused EM pulse? We share a common basement and I have full access to all gas and electric systems. I am going to dig deeper in some of my electronic mags to find more fun stuff. I still haven't ruled out the spy cam idea...[:D] BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/9/2002 8:46:41 AM EST
Ok, here's the real answer. Complain to your landlord. He has a duty to stop that disturbance. If he won't stop it (if they don't knock it off, he must evict them--it's called a covenant of quiet enjoyment) in a reasonably short period of time then just move out. Get a new place and leave. If the LL won't stop it, he's in breach of the lease and you may leave without fear. If you paid a deposit, you might want to withold rent to cover it if you think you won't get it back (BTW, if you do that first, you may be in breach but I say risk it, especially if it's a big deposit). Bottom line, hold your LL's feet to the fire and if he won't deliver, get the hell out. Oh, and remember, document everything (write down times the noise occurred; get copies of police reports etc. ) in case you have to prove it later if and when LL sues you for the rent. You DO NOT have to put up with that sh!t.
Link Posted: 8/9/2002 10:38:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/9/2002 10:39:27 AM EST by SorryOciffer]
I started a log. We really dont have a noise ord in our town. Will keep up to date on this. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/9/2002 9:00:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By NOVA5: nope your not. you saw Clark W Grizwold do it in National Lampoons Christmas vaction! remeber the ice missle that took out the rich bitch's stereo? ;)
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Thanks Nova5! I knew I'd seen that done somewhere! [;)]
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Link Posted: 8/10/2002 12:04:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/10/2002 12:08:59 AM EST by GodBlessTexas]
Originally Posted By SorryOciffer: We have sperate fuse boxes that are litterally like 50 years old that still use the old pull out fuses. I dont think anything done to theirs will affect mine. Is there anything I can do to inject "noise" into their lines? How about a focused EM pulse? We share a common basement and I have full access to all gas and electric systems. I am going to dig deeper in some of my electronic mags to find more fun stuff. I still haven't ruled out the spy cam idea...[:D] BrenLover
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The spy cam idea is about the dumbest thing you can do if you're going to show the tape publicly. It won't take the cops long to figure out they live in a duplex and where the video was shot from, and I'm pretty sure your state or city has laws against surveilance like that. Living with crappy neighbors sucks, but dealing with them by making them sick is definitely unethical. You're expecting teenagers to be decent while acting like a child yourself. Handle this like an adult. Talk to the mother first, tell her that you're trying to be civil and handle this privately between you and them, but if things continue you will call the landlord and then the cops. If you're worried about them damaging your property or keying your car then place some of those spy cams with a motion detector pointing at your vehicle as well as a security light. Spend some time out on your porch drinking a beer or whatever with your fiance to let remind them you're there. Vigilence is the key. If things degenerate, then take whatever measures you feel are appropriate, but my gut tells me to handel it privately in an adult manner before trying to induce sickness. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 4:32:14 AM EST
I was kidding about the spy cam for god's sake (too much work and risk). "Living with crappy neighbors sucks, but dealing with them by making them sick is definitely unethical. You're expecting teenagers to be decent while acting like a child yourself." Ethics have there place, I'm suspending them at this time. If the daughters are almost 18 and old enough to whore around and act like adults then treat them as such. Funny my brother and I never acted like that when we were younger, it helps when you dont have white trash parents who dont care and are'nt home to keep an eye on things and to teach right from wrong and common curtecy (sp?). If you look at it on a bigger scale. The military would do what was necessary and expend resources to accomplish it. So will I. I will try diplomacy first but if that breaks down then its defcon 1. "Diplomacy is saying "nice doggy" while you look for a bigger stick" Author unknown. BrenLover
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 4:40:21 PM EST
Found some more cool stuff and forums here. Some stuff they sell is a little odd but the other stuff looks cool. [url]plans-kits.com[/url]
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 5:18:11 PM EST
How will the anonymous application of ULF/UHF or destruction of their property effect the behavior change you desire? If they don't know who is forking with them and why they won't change. If they do know then either you go to jail, or some of the trash exact revenge on you or the fiance.
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 5:25:40 PM EST
Buy about $50 worth of crack rocks, stuff it under the front door with a coat hanger, drop a dime on them. Problem solved.
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 5:36:25 PM EST
This is one of the sorriest threads I have ever read in this forum. Have you even introduced yourselves to your neighbors? Did you even look at the property before you rented it? You state that you have not tried diplomacy yet but you are ready to try some rather crude things to acomplish your goal. You speak of these people and their company in a very demeaning and slanderous way. It makes you sound like a bigot. They were living there first. You chose to live next to them. Now you want them to live by your rules. Or face the consequences. But you don't even want to let them know that their lifestyle is cramping yours. See anything wrong with this picture? Maybe you ought to try to get to know them. Or move soon.
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 8:16:09 PM EST
You say bigot like its a bad thing...[:D] I am prejudice as hell though, there is a difference. I asked the landlord if they were noisy, he said "none more than normal". Coming from a building that was so quiet you can hear a pin drop to this was day and night. Slanderous things? I work in the social services field and have seen and interacted with enough white trash to recognize it when i see it. I've spent the last 4 years essentially "deprogramming" children who were raised in homes where the families were so disfunctional it is amazing. I am interested in these things (EMP, UHF ULF) in general cause it's just damn cool stuff and will only use it as a last resort (just cause I can). If that makes me a jerk I can live with that and sleep well at night. I've yet to meet anyone who can be 100% moral and ethical 100% of the time and I wont pretend to be that person. BrenLover
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