How necessary is a vertical foregrip?

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Posted: 9/2/2005 5:27:29 AM EDT

I don't feel like dropping $50.00 or more on a vertical foregrip if it really only adds

to the rifle. I would like to know if the grip actually has a purpose for the semi-auto M4orgery. Thanks.

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:28:17 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
I don't feel like dropping $50.00 or more on a vertical foregrip if it really only adds to the rifle. I would like to know if the grip actually has a purpose for the semi-auto M4orgery. Thanks.

It isn't necessary at all.

Lots of fellows don't use them and do just fine.

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:28:19 AM EDT

[#2]

If you hold a rifle up often it is an arm saver.

It makes it very natural. And helps to control muzzle rise.

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:51:11 AM EDT

[#3]

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It isn't necessary at all. Lots of fellows don't use them and do just fine.

This used to be me........

Then I got a KAC RAS II show show special, I have since changed my tune.

Biggest advantage became apparent the day I tested a Beta Mag, sure does make handling the M4 easier w/ the Beta installed.

While I haven't ran out and bought V-grips for my other two M4s, I do keep and use the one I got on my go-to M4.

IMO it makes handling the rifle easier, balances the rifle well for onehand on the V-grip handling, makes me steadier allowing more precise aiming, which places round more accurately on target, (especially from an off-hand standing stance).

Mike

ps - and no this is not on a FA weapon

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:53:14 AM EDT

[#4]

I'm wrestling with that one myself. I will probably end up with one someday.

BTW How sturdy are the heat shield Picatinny rail mounts for grips, lights, etc.?

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:54:46 AM EDT

[#5]

I have 2 of them, I do not know where they are...I used them before, didn't like. If I find them today I wil IM you and give you one.

Posted: 9/2/2005 5:56:49 AM EDT

[#6]

Thanks.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:00:46 AM EDT

[#7]

I will look today...Do not scramble off to buy one.

Chris

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:01:44 AM EDT

[#8]

I've managed to get by without any.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:03:46 AM EDT

[#9]

I tried one, and in the end I ended up with a set up the slim old school carbine handguards on my M-4. <ost of my use is vehicles and manuevering in and out of them, and the foregrip tended to be in the way.

YMMV

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:04:46 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
I'm wrestling with that one myself. I will probably end up with one someday.

BTW How sturdy are the heat shield Picatinny rail mounts for grips, lights, etc.?

I had one that I ordered from Lauer Custom for my Rock River midlength. While the rail itself was solid, I found that the handguards flexed if you put any torque on the vertical handguard. Not to say they wouldn't hold, but it was distracting.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:06:11 AM EDT

[#11]

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I've managed to get by without any.

Yeah, but you keep bees...them little bustards are fast, man, so when you have to haul ass outta their AO you don't need something like a VFG hangin' up on stuff!

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:07:22 AM EDT

[#12]

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I tried one, and in the end I ended up with a set up the slim old school carbine handguards on my M-4. <ost of my use is vehicles and manuevering in and out of them, and the foregrip tended to be in the way.

YMMV

I do live the slim handguards over the big old m4 handguards, But I have girlie man hands.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:09:01 AM EDT

[#13]

It all depends on personal preference. Some like them. Some hate them. I personally prefer not having a vertical foregrip. I find that in many situations, they limit what you can do with the rifle and the number of ways you can hold it.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:10:20 AM EDT

[#14]

It will decrease your accuracy slightly.

The support hand is meant to support not grip the forend.

Don't built your weapons to look pretty. Build them to be effective weapons. If the vertical forgrip works for you improving your ability to hit targets then go for it. I have found that it doesn't assist me.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:11:32 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm wrestling with that one myself. I will probably end up with one someday.

BTW How sturdy are the heat shield Picatinny rail mounts for grips, lights, etc.?

I had one that I ordered from Lauer Custom for my Rock River midlength. While the rail itself was solid, I found that the handguards flexed if you put any torque on the vertical handguard. Not to say they wouldn't hold, but it was distracting.

Hmmm... Good info. thanks.

I might go with a barrel mount for a Sure-Fire and put the tape switch on the handguard itself...

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:14:33 AM EDT

[#16]

Try one out if possible.
I thought that I didn't need one, but I borrowed one for 6 days, then ended out buying 2 for myself.
I might get flamed for saying this, but I recomend an airsoft vertical foregrip for this.
The quality is the same as far as I can tell, and it is not a part which requires high precision.
And the best is that they are priced about $15 for the basic model.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:15:11 AM EDT

[#17]

I've been meaning to try one to see if I like it or not.

I just can't bring myself to hand over $50 for s simple piece of plastic that should cost less than $20.

Ed

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:17:02 AM EDT

[#18]

I really like them. They increase control, comfort, and maneuverability.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:19:47 AM EDT

[#19]

I have been debating this myself.Came close to buying one the other day and using one of those bolt on rails on my m4 guards.The more I thought about it I got the feeling that the thing would move around to much and really bother me.Am I wrong,does anyone run this set up,if so how is it.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:23:09 AM EDT

[#20]

If you aren't shooting full auto or aren't holding your rifle up for extended periods of time, they are unnecessary.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:23:19 AM EDT

[#21]

You won't be tactical unless you have a foregrip, surefire, grenade launcher, laser, PEQ-4, bayonet, night-vision, pez-dispenser, toilet paper dispenser, and an ATM machine mounted on your fore-grip.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:39:22 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
It isn't necessary at all. Lots of fellows don't use them and do just fine.

This used to be me........

Then I got a KAC RAS II show show special, I have since changed my tune.

Biggest advantage became apparent the day I tested a Beta Mag, sure does make handling the M4 easier w/ the Beta installed.

While I haven't ran out and bought V-grips for my other two M4s, I do keep and use the one I got on my go-to M4.

IMO it makes handling the rifle easier, balances the rifle well for onehand on the V-grip handling, makes me steadier allowing more precise aiming, which places round more accurately on target, (especially from an off-hand standing stance).

Mike

ps - and no this is not on a FA weapon

I agree.

Posted: 9/2/2005 6:52:43 AM EDT

[#23]

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It all depends on personal preference. Some like them. Some hate them. I personally prefer not having a vertical foregrip. I find that in many situations, they limit what you can do with the rifle and the number of ways you can hold it.

Is the hand stuck to the grip?

Couldn't you just let go of it and put your hand somewhere else if you needed to?

just wonderin'

Posted: 9/2/2005 7:00:39 AM EDT

[#24]

I have them on some of my rifles, I like them but watch mounting on non free floating hanguards my M4orgery will change point of impact if you get to he-manish on it.

Posted: 9/2/2005 7:01:44 AM EDT

[#25]

They are not really necessary, but they is soooooooooooooooooooooo tactical.

Posted: 9/2/2005 7:02:51 AM EDT

[#26]

I have been ok without one, Id like one though

Posted: 9/2/2005 7:04:31 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Quoted:
It all depends on personal preference. Some like them. Some hate them. I personally prefer not having a vertical foregrip. I find that in many situations, they limit what you can do with the rifle and the number of ways you can hold it.

Is the hand stuck to the grip?

Couldn't you just let go of it and put your hand somewhere else if you needed to?

just wonderin'

Lots of times I like to take a rest with the forearm resting on something. I've found this to be easier without the handgrip. It's much less stable (especially on impromtu rests such as tree limbs, etc) than with the grip.

Posted: 9/2/2005 7:43:45 AM EDT

[#28]

They are a great help with muzzle control when you are shooting from the hip and swivelling from side to side, with the selector set on "bullet hose".