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Posted: 10/2/2014 1:38:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 1:40:05 PM EST by StevenH]
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for and all of your bank account numbers on the application?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:39:03 PM EST
My freedom and privacy has no price.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:40:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for on the application?
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lol have you not heard of this thing called "lying"?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:41:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 1:41:24 PM EST by BANDITOZ71]
Based on the choices, over $200k.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:41:45 PM EST
If you have skills there are plenty of opportunities out there that you wouldn't need to deal with this or any other HR bullshit.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:42:40 PM EST
Depends on the company, why they wanted it, what the job was, and what they payed.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:43:36 PM EST
Applying to an "agency," OP?

No thanks for me.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:44:33 PM EST
When i did my lifestyle poly there was a bunch of questions about my personal life including sexual habits, family history, and even firearm use. The navy didn't pay me any extra for it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:45:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Thedude27:


lol have you not heard of this thing called "lying"?
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Originally Posted By Thedude27:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for on the application?


lol have you not heard of this thing called "lying"?


Even if you get the job a team of investigators will continue to look into your background for the first 18-months. Any "lying" they find out about and you get fired.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:45:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 1:46:44 PM EST by LoBrau]
On the application? As in, the preliminary paperwork that in no way even guarantees you an interview, much less the job? Fuck yeah, sign me up.

ETA: Is this company's main office in the back of a truck with the motor running?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:46:59 PM EST
guns are icky why would i own one doctor?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:49:46 PM EST
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Even if you get the job a team of investigators will continue to look into your background for the first 18-months. Any "lying" they find out about and you get fired.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By Thedude27:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for on the application?


lol have you not heard of this thing called "lying"?


Even if you get the job a team of investigators will continue to look into your background for the first 18-months. Any "lying" they find out about and you get fired.


if they are going to watch me for 18 mo after i get hired there is no sum of money that would make me feel comfortable working there.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:51:02 PM EST
depends on the nature of the job. but assuming it is for the field i currently work in? Hell no.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:51:48 PM EST
From what I've been told, it's about that bad at the Bridgestone tire plant in Aiken county SC.



gd
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:51:50 PM EST
Bank accounts can probably be guessed at from credit reports and public records (mortgages and such). In many state permits are a public record. The gun collection would be tough to do. If it were an Uncle Sam job I suspect they could come with something if they really wanted to.

As far as privacy rights, well, there aren't any. Not any more and really not for a long time. Our identity has long since become a collection of databases.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 1:58:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for and all of your bank account numbers on the application?
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I guess it would depend on how badly I wanted that government pension.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:02:08 PM EST
Employers already get my bank account number when I sign up for direct deposit....
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:04:37 PM EST
That's easy. I don't have any icky guns.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:22:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NavyIS2:
When i did my lifestyle poly there was a bunch of questions about my personal life including sexual habits, family history, and even firearm use. The navy didn't pay me any extra for it.
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Bingo. Not in the Navy, though.

I didn't have to give serials.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:27:57 PM EST
Several million dollars could make me think about it. I went with over 200K.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:28:42 PM EST
The company would have to pay me 1000 a week after taxes plus a lifetime supply of ammunition and a firearm of my choice once a month.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:29:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BANDITOZ71:
Based on the choices, over $200k.

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Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:30:13 PM EST
I'd give up all that info for a 20% raise no problemo. Except for guns I own, none of that is really even private.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:34:51 PM EST
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delayed double tap
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 2:40:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 6:05:18 PM EST by Iram]
It would need to be around $400-500k with a high chance of me getting the job (after filling out the app) and no requirement to provide then new bank numbers (because I'd be switching backs as soon as the application was turned in).

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Originally Posted By StevenH:


Even if you get the job a team of investigators will continue to look into your background for the first 18-months. Any "lying" they find out about and you get fired.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By Thedude27:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for on the application?


lol have you not heard of this thing called "lying"?


Even if you get the job a team of investigators will continue to look into your background for the first 18-months. Any "lying" they find out about and you get fired.


But I'd already have all their secrets by then, plus I'd just sleep with the investigators if any of them caught me.

Also:

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 3:09:58 PM EST
just to appy? no amount

to get the job, maybe 450 a year.
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Link Posted: 10/2/2014 3:20:37 PM EST
Really?

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Link Posted: 10/2/2014 3:51:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:


I guess it would depend on how badly I wanted that government pension.
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for and all of your bank account numbers on the application?


I guess it would depend on how badly I wanted that government pension.


Sounds like a job that would have me working in DC and there's no effing way I'd go to work there in the first place. But on the odd chance somebody really wanted me they'd have to be talking a paycheck greater then $400,000 per year.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 3:57:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
do they have wifi?
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Don't be ridiculous. No wifi, but they do have free parking!
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 3:57:32 PM EST
My brother applied for NYPD, and they required all personal guns owned to be listed.
The background investigator said my brothers list was the second most he had seen.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:01:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By raysheen:

Don't be ridiculous. No wifi, but they do have free parking!
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do they have wifi?

Don't be ridiculous. No wifi, but they do have free parking!


No wifi. Parking ranges from free to $16.00 a day depending on assignment after completing training. Which reminds me. The application also asks for the VIN of all your cars and your drivers license number.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:04:56 PM EST
No thank you
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:05:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:


Sounds like a job that would have me working in DC and there's no effing way I'd go to work there in the first place. But on the odd chance somebody really wanted me they'd have to be talking a paycheck greater then $400,000 per year.
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Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By StevenH:
you had to list every firearm you own, every CCW permit you have/had, every CCW permit you ever applied for and all of your bank account numbers on the application?


I guess it would depend on how badly I wanted that government pension.


Sounds like a job that would have me working in DC and there's no effing way I'd go to work there in the first place. But on the odd chance somebody really wanted me they'd have to be talking a paycheck greater then $400,000 per year.



I'm not sure about the bank account info, but the Philly Police application demanded all of the above gun info. You also needed purchase receipts and sales receipts if you sold them.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:08:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bulletandgrunt:
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Nailed it.

Some things are more important than money.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:09:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bulletandgrunt:
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Nailed it.

Some things are more important than money.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 4:13:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 6:57:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevenH:


No wifi. Parking ranges from free to $16.00 a day depending on assignment after completing training. Which reminds me. The application also asks for the VIN of all your cars and your drivers license number.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By raysheen:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
do they have wifi?

Don't be ridiculous. No wifi, but they do have free parking!


No wifi. Parking ranges from free to $16.00 a day depending on assignment after completing training. Which reminds me. The application also asks for the VIN of all your cars and your drivers license number.

Do you get to choose where the RFID implant goes, or is that set by company agency policy?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:02:12 PM EST
Sounds more like Divorce then a job.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:02:55 PM EST
Basically had to list all that stuff in my background investigation so I put what my max salary will be when I top out.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:03:37 PM EST
My current job.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 7:05:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PR361:


Nailed it.

Some things are more important than money.

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Originally Posted By bulletandgrunt:
My freedom and privacy has no price.


Nailed it.

Some things are more important than money.



This.

Some of the nastiest most miserable people I have met are some of the wealthiest.

Link Posted: 10/4/2014 12:54:48 PM EST
Starting pay is $25.XX/hour

Raise to $29.XX if you sucessfully complete training. Failure rate is about 40%.

Top out at $42.XX/hour after about 6 years.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:04:37 PM EST
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guns are icky why would i own one doctor?
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This,
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:21:13 PM EST
That sounds about what it was like living on post as a single soldier.

Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:31:27 PM EST
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Starting pay is $25.XX/hour

Raise to $29.XX if you sucessfully complete training. Failure rate is about 40%.

Top out at $42.XX/hour after about 6 years.
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If that's a 40hr only with no OT job, that's not really worth all that.
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:33:57 PM EST
over 100k per week in cash.
or 500k per month again in cash...

after a couple of years who cares about the "identy" I gave them....
Link Posted: 10/4/2014 2:47:17 PM EST
I would have to write, using a large point black felt pen, "PLEASE HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH YOURSELF IN A RECTUM SORT OF WAY" across the application.

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