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Posted: 2/26/2007 6:39:18 AM EST
From time to time I feel that way.


anyone else?
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:40:22 AM EST
Maury Povich.

'nuff said
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:40:22 AM EST
Insert a Poll.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:41:40 AM EST
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:43:18 AM EST
Yes, we need a license to procreate. And a marriage license would be a pre-requisite.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:44:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.


Now thats an idea.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:51:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.


Now thats an idea.


wasn't it michagan that tried to require drug tests to receive welfare, i believe it was shot down immediately...
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:52:17 AM EST
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:54:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


+1
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:54:29 AM EST
Too many stupid sheeple are having children and making more fucking stupid Sheeple.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:57:06 AM EST
I love it when the "master planners" out themselves freedom is double edged sword isn't it
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 6:58:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:
I love it when the "master planners" out themselves freedom is double edged sword isn't it


As long as I'm not paying the bills.

But I am...and you are too (if you're a taxpayer and I assume you are rather than being a recipient).
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:00:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By 1911greg:

Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.


Now thats an idea.


wasn't it michagan that tried to require drug tests to receive welfare, i believe it was shot down immediately...


That is FUCKING Stupid. I worked some time at a Grocery store, and you should have seen all the Meth heads & Crack Heads with food stamp cards. Sorry, but my money shouldn't go to some loser that spends all of her/his cash on Drugs and the food stamp money on pure junk food (I swear to God there was never a healthy Item in the basket).

I have been saying for a long time that Drug Tests should be mandatory. They should be tested randomly also.

Nathan
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:00:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:
I love it when the "master planners" out themselves freedom is double edged sword isn't it


As long as I'm not paying the bills.

But I am...and you are too (if you're a taxpayer and I assume you are rather than being a recipient).


Yes I have a lot of kids and pay the AMT and put my kids in private or home school, Yet I have no desire to have the government be involved in the most basic right of all. Axe 80% of public aid fine by me, get rid of gov schools fine by me, try and impose a permit to "breed" that is a call to arms
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:01:31 AM EST

Sheeple out number everyone else. So who would have control of a licence to reproduce, the sheeple. Congratulations, you have just come up with a idea to wipe out out all non-sheeple on the planet. Not a good idea.

Really the problems being complained about mostly come from a seriously messed up education system and a messed up media. Fix that problem.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:01:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:03:34 AM EST by vrwc0915]

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.



How about that same policy on firearms... I love how many closet tyrants we have here


Fine company you keep:

Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:01:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:
I love it when the "master planners" out themselves freedom is double edged sword isn't it


As long as I'm not paying the bills.

But I am...and you are too (if you're a taxpayer and I assume you are rather than being a recipient).


Yes I have a lot of kids and pay the AMT and put my kids in private or home school, Yet I have no desire to have the government be involved in the most basic right of all. Axe 80% of public aid fine by me, get rid of gov schools fine by me, try and impose a permit to "breed" that is a call to arms


I agree. I prefer the birth control injection to receive the public assistance. Or no public assistance.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:02:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:
I love it when the "master planners" out themselves freedom is double edged sword isn't it


As long as I'm not paying the bills.

But I am...and you are too (if you're a taxpayer and I assume you are rather than being a recipient).


Yes I have a lot of kids and pay the AMT and put my kids in private or home school, Yet I have no desire to have the government be involved in the most basic right of all. Axe 80% of public aid fine by me, get rid of gov schools fine by me, try and impose a permit to "breed" that is a call to arms


MOLON BABE!

Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:03:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rustyone:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


+1
That sounds like a good idea.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:04:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:06:11 AM EST by vrwc0915]

Originally Posted By opti12206:

Originally Posted By Rustyone:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


+1
That sounds like a good idea.


It did to Hitler and Sanger as well

The psychologist was Stalin's best friend

ETA: Please add a poll


Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:06:43 AM EST
I think there ought to be a license to breath.

If you cannot afford the license, they wrap a plastic bag around your face until you can.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:07:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:

Originally Posted By opti12206:

Originally Posted By Rustyone:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


+1
That sounds like a good idea.


It did to Hitler and Sanger as well

The psychologist was Stalin's best friend

ETA: Please add a poll




We have enough FUCKING Taxes!
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:10:49 AM EST
Take away illegal immigrants and this wouldn't be an issue.

What is it about poverty that makes people feel the need to bring more kids into bad circumstances?

Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:11:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:12:27 AM EST by KingOfTown]
I hate the excessive numbers of welfare rats just as much as the next guy, but regulating people's lives further is definitely not what we need.

IAMLEGEND suggested mandatory birth control for welfare recipients, while that is still a slide down a slippery slope, not quite as bad.

I would personally do away with all public assistance for adults if I had that power.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:16:16 AM EST
just poison the illegal drugs. jeesh, do I have to think of everything?
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:20:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By hourglassing:
just poison the illegal drugs. jeesh, do I have to think of everything?


Apparently.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:27:13 AM EST
You could mandate that a person needs a license to reproduce but it would only affect law abiding reproducers.

Seriously, it wouldn't work any way. You need a license to drive a car but I wonder how many are on the road right now with no license or a revoked one.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:28:26 AM EST
Having kids and getting married should be as painful as child support and a divorce.

Less would do it.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:28:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.


Amen.

And, getting pregnant while on welfare should be a crime. You lose welfare, and since you now can't take care of your existiong kids, you lose them, too. You go to jail, have the new baby in jail, and immediately lose it to adoption.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:29:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.



+1000000
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:31:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.


Oooh! I like this idea. My only concern when I hear about this kind of stuff though is it's just one more government intrusion into our lives...
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:32:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By vrwc0915:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.



How about that same policy on firearms... I love how many closet tyrants we have here


Fine company you keep:
www.eugenics-watch.com/aeugensoc/ameug.gif
impiousdigest.com/hitler-and-sanger.jpg


But hey, we're all still free if we can have our guns!
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:32:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:32:52 AM EST by mjohn3006]
So who here has seen the movie Fortress?

Link Posted: 2/26/2007 7:46:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.



YAY ... go off public aid for a month ... get knocked up, go back on it with a little extra for the bun in the oven ...


next idea....
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:03:24 AM EST

So the excuse for a license is not to have to pay welfare. If your against welfare then be against welfare. A license is not getting rid of welfare, its we have welfare and licenses to. Maybe this is just a push for the Chinese one child policy system here.
I can just see that here, only the illigal immigrants get a licence to reproduce. I live by a small town that prides itself on being prejudice biggots. They have done such a good job pressurring all those they deem unworthy not to have children that very few whites have kids. Just about everyone didn't fit there guidelines to reproduce. The illegal aliens had kids anyway, the school is full of brown kids. Ban illegals from having kids, now thats funny. Its already illegal for them to be here.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:09:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By piccolo: From time to time I feel that way. anyone else?
That depends. Is she hot and can she cook?
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:11:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 8:12:13 AM EST by IAMLEGEND]

Originally Posted By icecoldsteel:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:
That's pretty extreme...how about a compromise?

Birth control injections in order to receive public assistance.



YAY ... go off public aid for a month ... get knocked up, go back on it with a little extra for the bun in the oven ...


next idea....


The injection would be one that is effective for 6 months.

ETA: Or more.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:12:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


sounds good to me.

Did you know 18,000 children die worldwide each day from starvation. For those against birth control and abortion you make me sick with your wanting to see children stave to death.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:18:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rustyone:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


+1


As a teacher, I totally agree. Show me a problem child, and I'll show you a dipshit for a parent.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:18:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By phantomghost: Did you know 18,000 children die worldwide each day from starvation. For those against birth control and abortion you make me sick with your wanting to see children stave to death.
Did you know that the vast majority of them are not Americans? They aren't subject to our laws and they sure aren't our kids. So I see no link between why their deaths somehow make abortion more palatable to current and potential American parents.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:19:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By guns762:

Originally Posted By Rustyone:

Originally Posted By California_Kid: License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.
+1
As a teacher, I totally agree. Show me a problem child, and I'll show you a dipshit for a parent.
Maybe we should shoot the parents and take the kids and train them to be assassins!
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:19:20 AM EST
Freedom is a difficult concept for some to swallow.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:24:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Freedom is a difficult concept for some to swallow.


The other side of freedom is responsibility and accountability. Unfettered access to reproduction puts babies in the hands of too many irresponsible, no-account people.

Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:25:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Freedom is a difficult concept for some to swallow.


How true and with freedom comes responibility to take care of yourself and all the risk that go along with that, if by your choices and actions you end up dying in a ditch it is not the job of the government to take care of you or feed your kids. ALL charity should be private.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:25:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.



yep, thats the ticket.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:27:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By doggbert556:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


yep, thats the ticket.


I forgot "proof of financial responsibility".

We require liability insurance to get a driver's license. People who want to go mixing live sperm and eggs should carry health insurance so their costs don't end up getting dumped on everyone else's back.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:28:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:

Originally Posted By phantomghost: Did you know 18,000 children die worldwide each day from starvation. For those against birth control and abortion you make me sick with your wanting to see children stave to death.
Did you know that the vast majority of them are not Americans? They aren't subject to our laws and they sure aren't our kids. So I see no link between why their deaths somehow make abortion more palatable to current and potential American parents.


Oh, I guess its okay then.

Didnt know this was an America only topic.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:46:17 AM EST



By phantomghost

Did you know 18,000 children die worldwide each day from starvation. For those against birth control and abortion you make me sick with your wanting to see children stave to death."


Interesting, so we back in the 1950's before abortion there was massive famines in America. Lets see, nope America was doing great. Lets see, 1890's, still no famines. Congratulations phantom ghost you have just proved the old accustation from decades ago that there were pro-abortion types that wouldn't stop at just abortion. Next they would want a license. The whole slippery slope theory. Well since you have just proven the most paranoid accusations against the abortion movement. whats next after licenses on the slippery slope? Lets see whats the paranoid accusation next on the slippery slope, "A licence to live". That is taking population control a bit to far.

By the way about the bad parent angle, ever though that how that bad parent was educated should be under scrutiny?
How about taking this to the logical step. Should there be a licence to have sex? You see theres always the chance with all these people running around having sex that some babies might result. Its like having guns legal but banning shooting, not very effective. So who is for there needing to be license for sex? I am sure not. Of course there is even worse, remeber the "Demolition man" movie, they banned sex altogeather.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:47:08 AM EST
wow so taxing is not enough?
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:52:27 AM EST
Yes you should need one. If you choose to procreate without one your child wouldn't get a SSN, only a TIN or some other limiting crap. It's up to you whether you want to screw your child's life up by not getting a license.
Link Posted: 2/26/2007 8:54:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
License, background check, intelligence test, psychological profile, drug test, and a tax.


I see there are several people here that need to be denied the right to reproduce!
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