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Posted: 4/29/2009 8:42:51 PM EDT
I have been shooting 1 or 2 times a week for the last decade(500 rounds a week). Now I can not get ammo to sustain my hobby. I wish these bastards would settle down so I can get back to my normal shooting schedule. So how long is this shit going to last you think????
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:43:47 PM EDT
It'll be over December 21st, 2012.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:45:27 PM EDT


On my nerves also. Brass is threw the roof and no powder sales.  
Remember the old days 1,000 5.56 for $79.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:46:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ftwm:
It'll be over December 21st, 2012.





Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:48:06 PM EDT
When ARFcommer's stop hoarding the ammo.























Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:52:50 PM EDT
2 years.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 8:54:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 10:54:55 PM EDT
TTT
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 10:59:56 PM EDT
from my little narrow view of the world
It seems that the rush on everything has slowed down a good amount
still seeing sales 2x of normal but not the 6-10x of the last few months
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:05:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2009 11:06:17 PM EDT by Stonerriflefan44]
IMHO forever. You'll say I remember the good ol days of ammo,...

Remember when they used to sell ammo?

I remember when you were able to have as much ammo as you wanted

I remember when ammo was made with brass & copper,.. not this plastic crap


The younger kids will say," tell us more about guns grandpa what were they like? "
Could you really own and shoot them?



Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:07:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2009 11:09:22 PM EDT by Rosenrot]
It will last until Obama's Marxist ass gets thrown out of the white house. People are scared, and they have a good reason to be. We have someone in the white house doesn't believe you have the right to life or liberty, or the right to bear arms for that matter..
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:14:37 PM EDT
Until Ragnarök.
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:17:34 PM EDT
There is no shortage.  SG has M855 for $1K/1000.  No this is not a misprint, I almost shit myself when I looked at the latest sales rag that came in the mail today!
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:20:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By intimidator_3:
There is no shortage.  SG has M855 for $1K/1000.  No this is not a misprint, I almost shit myself when I looked at the latest sales rag that came in the mail today!



Thay can keep it then. F****** price gouging!!!!
Link Posted: 4/29/2009 11:28:28 PM EDT
The price will never come down if thats what you mean.  Remember the good old days shoulda coulda woulda.  These are the good old days buy it now while you can.  The price is only gonna go up. You may find a great a deal here and there, and when you do you better pounce.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:20:34 AM EDT
A very long time.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:23:30 AM EDT
It will last until people chill out and stop panic buying every round they can possibly find.  Obama isn't to blame for this, the economy isn't at fault, this is all our own doing.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:24:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SkagSig40:
Originally Posted By intimidator_3:
There is no shortage.  SG has M855 for $1K/1000.  No this is not a misprint, I almost shit myself when I looked at the latest sales rag that came in the mail today!



Thay can keep it then. F****** price gouging!!!!



I saw that too. I held them in high regard campared to Cheaper the Dirt. Now Im not so sure.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:26:54 AM EDT
Until we begin pillaging the supplies of our vanquished foe.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:29:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Until Ragnarök.


WOOT!
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:55:20 AM EDT
I think they will be all caught up by the fall.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:56:04 AM EDT
Eternity plus one
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 1:05:06 AM EDT
The only light at the end of the the tunnel that I see is that there are so many people holding ammo right now, that when the bubble does burst, prices should drop pretty steep.

I bought a lot before all the stupid and haven't shot much of it. When ammo does become available, I have enough to last me a year of normal shooting.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:32:12 AM EDT
Until we get a decent government again.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:35:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.


Damn you Tinkerbell!
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:37:18 AM EDT



Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:


Until we get a decent government again.


I hope not as that might be a VERY long time indeed!




 
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:39:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.


It will be over as soon as people THINK there is no more reason to hoard ammo.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:41:16 AM EDT
I'm not sure it will end.  With a gun grabbing administration in power companies will not ramp up additional production capacity if there is any fear that there will be no return on their investment.  At the same time gun owners are not going to stop hoarding.

It's a horrible revolving situation.  

I think the only answer is a different administration to include congress.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:43:03 AM EDT
There are many new firearms owners out there, and many of them couldn't get ammo, so my guess it will be at least year or more.

Hey folks give me break, if i can tell the future, I will be richer than Bill Gates.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:43:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.



+1
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 8:46:40 AM EDT



Originally Posted By MitchAlsup:



Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.
It will be over as soon as people THINK there is no more reason to hoard ammo.


Or until they run out of the extra money necessary to do so. As soon as the hoarders run out of cash and start liquidating their stashes prices will drop like a stone as the extra ammo comes into supply. I am still betting on the fall or maybe even mid-late summer.



 
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 9:17:50 AM EDT
Once hoarding diminishes and production gets ramped up more.  Remember, around the time that the ammo buying frenzy got going, the recession was becoming well known and manufacturing orders were going down as companies in nearly all industries got ready for hard times.  Even with the surge in buying, I'm sure many ammo (and firearm) manufacturers figured that the frenzy couldn't last in a contracting world economy, and that demand would drop due to reduced capital flows across the board, and reduced tax revenue would cause a drop in governmental orders for ammo (cutting out pratice and traing expense has historically been a first step in budget trimming,) and, for the gun maker side of things, orders for new weapons would drop.  By the same token, it could easily be assumed that the same trends which have historically tended to lead to greater savings and fewer purchases in households would have obtained today as well––-with people either losing jobs or in fear of doing so, much discretionary spending has doubtless been cut, and the ammo companies may have just assumed they would be in that category for most.  I am pretty confident that that is what we are faced with right now––-yes, hoarding is a problem, but the major problem in the supply lines is more likely to be in production cuts at the manufacturing end.  Couple this with modern "as needed" inventory systems used to reduce overhead, and you have a serious bump in availability at the counter.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 9:44:40 AM EDT



Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.


The answer.



There is no ammo shortage....well at least one that isn't created by gun owners overreacting.





 
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:26:44 AM EDT
Good input everyone! I hope it ends soon, as in this summer so I can go blasting every week end. Dam! I have several new guns I bought last year I need to break in!!!!
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:33:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2009 10:33:39 AM EDT by MSC182]
It's already slowing down.  Major sporting good stores (Dicks, Academy) around me have plenty of ammo on the shelves.  What I'm waiting for is the price to fall  as supply catches up to demand.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:33:57 AM EDT
Until supply increases, demand decreases, or both.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:35:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.


So you voted "forever", right?
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:36:52 AM EDT
The gun shortage seems to be over.  There were a dozen or so ARs at Sportsman's last night.

No ammo, but I did snag some powder.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 10:48:19 AM EDT
< 3 months, ammo will be readily available but price still jacked up
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:10:56 PM EDT
Mags are showing up.  Lowers are showing up.  Complete rifles can be had without to much difficulty.  So yes, the ammo situation will get sorted out.  Sooner or later people are going to run out of room in their basement.  Or credit card.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:17:46 PM EDT



Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:


Until we get a decent government again.


Yep may get better if we take some power back midterms. If we get a decent president in 2012 on top of that i would imagine prices will plummet. The economy is going to be shit for a few years which will keep MFG costs low. If all of this falls into place all the panic buyers will calm down look at their bank accounts and slowly back away.



 
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:24:04 PM EDT




Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

It will continue as long as people THINK there's an ammo shortage.




This
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:24:24 PM EDT
The extent of Hussien's Presidency.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:24:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2009 12:25:35 PM EDT by PantherArms762]
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
from my little narrow view of the world
It seems that the rush on everything has slowed down a good amount
still seeing sales 2x of normal but not the 6-10x of the last few months


Yup.

Ammo is sitting in the EE for prices that would have sold instantly a few months ago. I think the internet sales are a good judge of where the real world sales will be in about a month or so.


On a side note, People hoarding at Wally in your little town probably never heard of Palmetto State Armory or Aim Surplus. If Wally ain't got it neither do they, so they grab all they got.

Smart people save their pennies and either back order or watch for cases online.

ETA: Federal Bulk packs on the other hand, will never be the same.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:28:12 PM EDT
Hey look. We all need another hobby and ammo collecting sounds like a good one. What say you ARFCOM.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:31:06 PM EDT
Demand hasn't abated, and supply has not risen to meet demand. In fact demand has increased as more police forces add Ar-15s and more people buy .223 cal. rifles.

Both Federal and Winchester are probably contracted out well into next year. The war in Afghanistan will only get worse and a lot of our allies are now switching over to .223.

Expect his to last a while. When the war on terror slows down our domestic capacity will be enough to meet demand. Prices will never be as low as they were in the early 2000s. There are no more large stockpiles of surplus ammo for people to buy.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:40:52 PM EDT
I'm not suffering from an ammo shortage.  
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 12:46:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
from my little narrow view of the world
It seems that the rush on everything has slowed down a good amount
still seeing sales 2x of normal but not the 6-10x of the last few months


Yup.

Ammo is sitting in the EE for prices that would have sold instantly a few months ago. I think the internet sales are a good judge of where the real world sales will be in about a month or so.


On a side note, People hoarding at Wally in your little town probably never heard of Palmetto State Armory or Aim Surplus. If Wally ain't got it neither do they, so they grab all they got.

Smart people save their pennies and either back order or watch for cases online.

ETA: Federal Bulk packs on the other hand, will never be the same.


Are you talking about the bulk .22 Golden pack? I just found some at Wal-Mart.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 1:14:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2009 1:15:06 PM EDT by AcidGambit]
Academy has plenty, but they are $14 higher than Walley World on WWB 100rd 45acp.

A case of WWB 45 actually lasted overnight last week. I think you're seeing a small slow down. Sooner or later most people look at the amount of ammo they have and say; "I've got enough". You wait until we see higher utility and fuel  bills this summer, then you'll see a slow down in ammo sales.
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 1:17:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ftwm:
It'll be over December 21st, 2012.



Isn't that when the REAL shortage begins?
Link Posted: 4/30/2009 1:56:36 PM EDT
It will end when people believe the price is going to go down soon.  Then people will stop buying a case at  Walmart expecting a lower price next week.

Also, I am putting off gun purchases because ammo is not available.  That could be a reason gun sales are slowing down.
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