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Posted: 10/28/2013 7:00:48 AM EDT
I can't wrap my head around it.
How can places like The Liberal Gun Club even exist? Gun enthusiasts, talking about shooting and owning firearms, at the same time willing to cede control of their hobby to big government. Just like that, without batting an eye. Our rights are enumerated in the Constitution, and they don't care. In principle and practice, government is taking away rights, and it doesn't matter. It smacks of moral corruption. Some lib gun owners I've known can't reconcile it either. They keep voting for the same idiots who want to literally enslave and control them. "It's for the greater good, I guess," they say, with a sad demeanor. Some have said they'd rather be anti-gun, and support their progressive, liberal agenda than ally themselves with tea-bagger, Christian fundamentalist nut jobs like Alex Jones and Ted Cruz. Rather than think independently, and hold their party accountable, they'd throw away their rights. WTF?? Are the Democrats infallible and incorruptible? Is there no standard, against which we can hold our parties accountable? Is there no right and wrong against the backdrop of the Constitution? What a bunch of cowards, degenerates, imbeciles! |
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It's like union folks who claim to be conservatives. Might as well be bent over in a bathhouse while saying you disapprove of homosexuality.
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It's easy... you just have to be a raging hypocrite, have an IQ below room temperature, or both.
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Sometimes the sun shines through the clouds in only a few places.
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I know lots of people who own guns, but are liberal leaning in politics. Just being a gun owner or pro 2A doesn't mean that somebody won't have otherwise liberal political beliefs.
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It's easy... you just have to be a raging hypocrite, have an IQ below room temperature, or both. View Quote Plus more often than not, it's OTHER people who shouldn't have guns, not them. Only those few who are so liberated are responsible enough for firearms. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Plus more often than not, it's OTHER people who shouldn't have guns, not them. Only those few who are so liberated are responsible enough for firearms. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's easy... you just have to be a raging hypocrite, have an IQ below room temperature, or both. Plus more often than not, it's OTHER people who shouldn't have guns, not them. Only those few who are so liberated are responsible enough for firearms. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Exactly. |
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Plus more often than not, it's OTHER people who shouldn't have guns, not them. Only those few who are so liberated are responsible enough for firearms. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's easy... you just have to be a raging hypocrite, have an IQ below room temperature, or both. Plus more often than not, it's OTHER people who shouldn't have guns, not them. Only those few who are so liberated are responsible enough for firearms. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Typical liberal group-think, even though "progressive intelligentsia" is a tiny fraction of Democrats. And they're naive to think the do-nothing leeches think like them too. Disgusting. |
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Quoted: I know lots of people who own guns, but are liberal leaning in politics. Just being a gun owner doesn't mean that somebody won't have otherwise liberal political beliefs. View Quote I know libtards who think it's OK for them to own guns, but not for other people to own them. Needless to say, they are not big fans of the concept of liberty. |
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Quoted: The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Define "Lib Prog" please The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. |
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Know someone like that who owns guns, ar15 with 30 round mags and all but believe they should be able to own them but not others.
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The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Define "Lib Prog" please The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. Honestly it's no different than all of the "don't tread on me" people who then proceed to hate on people who smoke weed or want it legal for being "useless FSA dopers" and hippies. Likewise you get pro 2A liberals who LIKE guns so they don't think the government should ban them, but at the same time they DO think that the government should intervene with people and practices that they don't like. |
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I am pro-gay marriage am I a "Lib Prog"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Define "Lib Prog" please The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. Only if you think gay marriage should be enforced and recognized by the government. Otherwise, you're a liberal (I don't mean that in any derogatory way). For the record, I don't think marriage should be any of government's business. |
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It's like union folks who claim to be conservatives. Might as well be bent over in a bathhouse while saying you disapprove of homosexuality. View Quote I know a bunch of them. They all own guns. They all do a little hunting and they all like to shoot. Every election day they all dutifully go to vote with their union approved "sample ballot" clutched in their hands. DUMBASSES! |
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I know lots of people who own guns, but are liberal leaning in politics. Just being a gun owner or pro 2A doesn't mean that somebody won't have otherwise liberal political beliefs. View Quote Same here. Lots of people lean left, and have a staunch 'pro-Freedom, pro-Gun' mantra that they repeat. They don't realize that they are socialists. TRG |
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I am a Classical Liberal, and so joined The Liberal Gun Club to see if there might be any other similar folks hanging there.
That club is an interesting amalgam of misanthropes united by two things: their "progressive" natures and their "like" for firearms. What you need to know is that for most of them, this "like" for firearms is conditional, limited, and totally sub to their attachment to the "progressive" agenda. They are not reliable allies, they hate the NRA with feiry passion, they sneer at places like this one, and they are embarrassed by any association with you and I. That said, I have seen signs in a very few of them of that they might be on the road to enlightenment. These few see how the media spins everything about guns, and these folks are starting to question the rest of what they are told in the media. There is some small hope for those folks. |
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I know a bunch of them. They all own guns. They all do a little hunting and they all like to shoot. Every election day they all dutifully go to vote with their union approved "sample ballot" clutched in their hands. DUMBASSES! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's like union folks who claim to be conservatives. Might as well be bent over in a bathhouse while saying you disapprove of homosexuality. I know a bunch of them. They all own guns. They all do a little hunting and they all like to shoot. Every election day they all dutifully go to vote with their union approved "sample ballot" clutched in their hands. DUMBASSES! Lots of Teamsters in the woods during deer season and pulling a straight "D" ticket during election season. TRG |
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Honestly it's no different than all of the "don't tread on me" people who then proceed to hate on people who smoke weed or want it legal for being "useless FSA dopers" and hippies. Likewise you get pro 2A liberals who LIKE guns so they don't think the government should ban them, but at the same time they DO think that the government should intervene with people and practices that they don't like. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Define "Lib Prog" please The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. Honestly it's no different than all of the "don't tread on me" people who then proceed to hate on people who smoke weed or want it legal for being "useless FSA dopers" and hippies. Likewise you get pro 2A liberals who LIKE guns so they don't think the government should ban them, but at the same time they DO think that the government should intervene with people and practices that they don't like. Double standards? Say it ain't so! |
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They justify it by thinking that THEY deserve to have guns but we don't. Unfortunately for them, most of these mass shootings were perpetrated by liberal democrats or those with strong ties to the democrat party. Or they're just retarded.
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Generally, it boils down to, "I want the government to control other people, and I believe that they won't do anything to restrict me."
It's never completely true, you see, and so they're willing to make some small concessions in order to get what they want. They give up a little in order to force other people to give up a lot. That's how it works. |
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Generally, it boils down to, "I want the government to control other people, and I believe that they won't do anything to restrict me." It's never completely true, you see, and so they're willing to make some small concessions in order to get what they want. They give up a little in order to force other people to give up a lot. That's how it works. View Quote Very True. It is the reason that we are in the mess hat we are in today. More people turned to the government to control, and steal from, their neighbors. TRG |
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Because they believe Christians, Conservatives/Republicans and corporations will violently oppress them.
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Define "Lib Prog" please The basic idea that liberalism (individual liberty) should include social justice (government intervention). Complete oxymoron. There is some debate whether they are the same strand. Either way, they're headed in the same direction. Honestly it's no different than all of the "don't tread on me" people who then proceed to hate on people who smoke weed or want it legal for being "useless FSA dopers" and hippies. Likewise you get pro 2A liberals who LIKE guns so they don't think the government should ban them, but at the same time they DO think that the government should intervene with people and practices that they don't like. Double standards? Say it ain't so! |
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liberal prog gun owners are the scarey ones. They are usually the ones carrying their active shooter fantasies. Them and the mentally ill.
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If you consider that most Liberals have a disconnect with reality, then maybe it's possible.
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Because they believe Christians, Conservatives/Republicans and corporations will violently oppress them. View Quote To add, they believe this oppression will come at the hands of the police, or military, whom they believe are the only ones that should be allowed to own assault weapons... TRG |
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There are single issue voters on both sides. We have a huge Catholic demographic, that are vehemently opposed to abortion, but they vote Democrat every time.
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Very True. It is the reason that we are in the mess hat we are in today. More people turned to the government to control, and steal from, their neighbors. TRG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Generally, it boils down to, "I want the government to control other people, and I believe that they won't do anything to restrict me." It's never completely true, you see, and so they're willing to make some small concessions in order to get what they want. They give up a little in order to force other people to give up a lot. That's how it works. Very True. It is the reason that we are in the mess hat we are in today. More people turned to the government to control, and steal from, their neighbors. TRG Somewhere along the way people started voting in their own self interests rather than what's best for the country. |
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Somewhere along the way people started voting in their own self interests rather than what's best for the country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Generally, it boils down to, "I want the government to control other people, and I believe that they won't do anything to restrict me." It's never completely true, you see, and so they're willing to make some small concessions in order to get what they want. They give up a little in order to force other people to give up a lot. That's how it works. Very True. It is the reason that we are in the mess hat we are in today. More people turned to the government to control, and steal from, their neighbors. TRG Somewhere along the way people started voting in their own self interests rather than what's best for the country. And it's almost like it was predictable behavior, or something? Weird, I know, right? "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." TRG |
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Don't see why it wouldn't be. I don't feel like having a socialist economic views and wanting a gun are mutually exclusive, or even how they are relate on any level. That being said it is not incredibly common for some reason.
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Don't see why it wouldn't be. I don't feel like having a socialist economic views and wanting a gun are mutually exclusive, or even how they are relate on any level. That being said it is not incredibly common for some reason. View Quote It's in relation to the current administration, and the state of our two-party system. You can't have obamacare and guns because the democrats hate, downplay, and attempt to dismantle the 2nd Amendment and the importance of gun ownership. |
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Found a couple this weekend. Wanted to strangle their stupid asses
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My wife's ex is a hardcore democrat and he is a gun owner now... since I married her he's bought 3-4 firearms including an M&P .22 ar copy.
I don't know if he's trying to copy me, or if he's genuinely interested in guns (she says it's bizarre, they never owed ANY when they were married), but I avoid talking politics with him because other than gun control, which again he's against, he's full on lib-tard. |
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