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Posted: 8/12/2011 3:07:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2011 3:08:02 AM EDT by KampusKop]
Some polls have Obama leading Perry by as much as 20 points and though I don't believe that, I don't understand how the numbers arent reversed?

Are the American people going to be that stupid again?

The kept re-electing FDR during a depression so I guess it figures.



Oh..  And don't tell me to ignore the polls..  That didn't work last time.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:08:46 AM EDT
Because he is fucking awesome.

Obama 2012.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:10:21 AM EDT
Padded polls.

W was down against both Algore and Mr. Swift boat
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:11:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Because he is fucking awesome.

Obama 2012.


FIRST POST!

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:14:55 AM EDT
Really?



My poll shows Zombie Reagan winning by 72%
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:21:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2011 3:21:55 AM EDT by hardcorps1775]
Man, where do the sheeple get their opinion???  Do they do research and read up on their own to form their own opinions???  No, they get them prepackaged and fed to them like pablum to a mewling brat by the leftist socialist mainstream media which has convinced the American voter that the GOP is at the root of our problem and if only they would just agree with everything The Messiah said, we'd ALL be SO much better off.  

Oh yeah, it's STILL all Bush's fault!
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:26:19 AM EDT



Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:


Man, where do the sheeple get their opinion???  Do they do research and read up on their own to form their own opinions???  No, they get them prepackaged and fed to them like pablum to a mewling brat by the leftist socialist mainstream media which has convinced the American voter that the GOP is at the root of our problem and if only they would just agree with everything The Messiah said, we'd ALL be SO much better off.  



Oh yeah, it's STILL all Bush's fault!


This.     "Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American public."
 
 


 
   P.T. Barnum

 
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:30:58 AM EDT
Well, that's what happens when you poll exclusively in Harlem and Newark.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:32:29 AM EDT
He's the man now dog
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:32:50 AM EDT
It's cool to steal from the rich and give to the poor.  



Obama is cool.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:34:31 AM EDT
Where can I vote for Zombie reagan again?
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 3:39:49 AM EDT
Funny, if you look at mainstream media and print nearly everyone has has a serious discussion about Obama getting booted in the primaries.



Lefties are NOT happy. Neither are moderates, independents, or rasta-libertarians.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:05:19 AM EDT
You're inferring a Libertarian would vote for Oboingo?!?

Remind me never to listen to a fucking thing you have to say!
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:09:30 AM EDT
Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:12:26 AM EDT
Because polls can be easily manipulated.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:16:48 AM EDT
Guys, the one minute you have spent discussing the 2012 election in this thread is one minute more than the average American has given it.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:17:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Because he is fucking awesome.

Obama 2012.


Yes, dog. I am downwards with your initiative.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:19:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2011 4:20:57 AM EDT by swingset]
Because all we have to offer are warmed over RINO's.





Sorry guys, that's the issue.





If we had a principled, speak-your-mind leader instead of a bunch of deeply flawed RINO turds squabbling to get a chance at the office, people would salivate to flush Barry.





You know it's true. Carter is in office, and instead of Reagan we've got McCain, Dole and several brands of fruitcake.

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:20:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fishngrits:






Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?






Perry comes off as a Christian then a conservative.
Some of us think that's the death of the Republican/Conservative movement to have it in that order.
I want anyone but Obama.  
4 years of Cthulu would work out better for much of the United States.  
But Perry is our Texas version of Hilary Clinton.  He's a politician.  Obama was a fanatic.  He refused to bend on anything and it's done more damage than a wishy washy politician who panders to the Christian Right can fix.  They have an agenda that has nothing to do with balancing the budget and fixing the nation.
Perry will bend over backwards to Christian morality (I was raised Christian.  Now get the fuck out of marriage and abortion and stop telling others you want to mandate their morality just like the !@#$ing Left) and he will make JM look downright wise.  I like Perry for Texas.  He bends to our will.
He will be raked over the coals on a national stage for being a bible thumper and looking like a 1980's Televangelist.  The Left strategists are LOVING the idea of Perry running against Obama.  It's only their foot soldiers who are bleating and they have only just begun.
I just hate to see the two parties I think have the best chance of helping America go down the tubes by pulling the same "Our morality is better than yours" bullshit instead of pulling out the checkbook and saying "I have to balance this.  We can get to your bullshit ideology later."
So yes.  There are many "tards" out there.  
 
 
 
 
 
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:20:40 AM EDT
Don't take this the wrong way, but It probably says more about Perry than it does Obama.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:21:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:23:06 AM EDT
Maybe becuase the people being polled have no idea who Perry is.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:23:41 AM EDT
Most Americans have NO idea who Rick Perry is. I hate to break it to everyone,but we live in an incredibly,incredibly stupid society.The last time Obama visited the island,I was fucking with 2 of the summer special officers since they didn't recognize their governor when he came over to say hello. They have to look at his picture every day they enter the station which is the part that cracked me up the most. They're  didn't know who either of their senators was - although one got zombie Ted Kennedy right - or their congressman.

 These are college graduates who had to take civics classes in both high school and university and they don't have a fucking clue. Now just how much do you think the "UN"educated voter is aware? The main reason I don't discuss politics with people in the daily life is them not understanding how government even works.One woman I know who is the biggest Obama supporter around STILL doesn't understand why Obama doesn't make new laws himself other than the evil R Congress won't let him


 Most Americans don't know much about politics other than news bites and name recognition. Rick Perry has near 0 name recognition.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:26:19 AM EDT
The first Black president WILL NOT be a one timer, count on it!
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:28:19 AM EDT
Because everyone knows who Obama is.





Not everyone knows who Romney is.





Less know who Perry is.





And the MSM has made many think Bachmann is a Christian kook.  Those that know who she is.
Presidents ALWAYS lead this far in advance.  The fact that Romney is up this far out in some polls show just how big a hole Obama is in.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:36:27 AM EDT
The same way unemployment numbers fall, Fuzzy Math.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:38:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fishngrits:
Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?


Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:43:12 AM EDT
There was a Rasmussen poll a couple of weeks ago that showed only Romney and Paul within the margin-of-error of defeating Obama.

But arfcom says Paul is "unelectable".
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:43:13 AM EDT
Because they cheat the numbers..

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:49:10 AM EDT
What, is it something like 45% of the country gets a government handout?  Did you expect that in 3 years that the country would see the failings of socialism and authoritarianism?
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 4:57:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By efpeter:
Really?

My poll shows Zombie Reagan winning by 72%





As much as Republicans and Conservatives talk about Reagan this and that all fucking day long this wouldnt surprise me.  Zombie Reagan could prob win as a write in.

This just in Reagan is dead, stop talking about him.  We dont need Reaganesk candidate (I fucking hate that line) we need a candidate with balls who is actually willing to do what is right versus what will get them re-elected.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:05:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fishngrits:
Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?


Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:12:47 AM EDT
I think the biggest mistake people like you and I make is believe that a majority of Americans are fine, upstanding citizens.

About half the people in this country are either stupid, crazy, angry about their criminal record or some mix of all three.

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:23:04 AM EDT
Half the people in this country vote for a living and they want an insane socialist fuck who will steal from us and give free shit to them.

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:25:42 AM EDT
You vote against our Messiah, you be racis'!
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:28:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
There was a Rasmussen poll a couple of weeks ago that showed only Romney and Paul within the margin-of-error of defeating Obama.

But arfcom says Paul is "unelectable".


It's because it's true.  Only Fred Thompson is electable.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:29:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By KampusKop:
Some polls have Obama leading Perry by as much as 20 points and though I don't believe that, I don't understand how the numbers arent reversed?

Are the American people going to be that stupid again?

The kept re-electing FDR during a depression so I guess it figures.



Oh..  And don't tell me to ignore the polls..  That didn't work last time.


Show me this poll, please.

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:31:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Because he is fucking awesome.

Obama 2012.


I lol'd.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:32:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead08:
Because polls can be easily manipulated.


Yup. How popular was Ron Paul in the polls and how many votes did he actually get?
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:36:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fishngrits:
Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?


Never underestimate the stupidity of that 50% of American libtards that don't pay any taxes!

Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:36:28 AM EDT
Perry is not the most recognizable name in America. If he becomes more known through the primaries, that gap will change.



What matters is if the American public hates Obama, and they do. His polling numbers have dropped off a cliff as of late, and if he doesn't recover, there is no way he wins.
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:50:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2011 5:55:38 AM EDT by GiggleSmith]





Originally Posted By Lovelessk999:
Originally Posted By fishngrits:


Because a lot of Americans are fucking stupid 'tards?



Perry comes off as a Christian then a conservative.





Some of us think that's the death of the Republican/Conservative movement to have it in that order.





I want anyone but Obama.  





4 years of Cthulu would work out better for much of the United States.  





But Perry is our Texas version of Hilary Clinton.  He's a politician.  Obama was a fanatic.  He refused to bend on anything and it's done more damage than a wishy washy politician who panders to the Christian Right can fix.  They have an agenda that has nothing to do with balancing the budget and fixing the nation.





Perry will bend over backwards to Christian morality (I was raised Christian.  Now get the fuck out of marriage and abortion and stop telling others you want to mandate their morality just like the !@#$ing Left) and he will make JM look downright wise.  I like Perry for Texas.  He bends to our will.





He will be raked over the coals on a national stage for being a bible thumper and looking like a 1980's Televangelist.  The Left strategists are LOVING the idea of Perry running against Obama.  It's only their foot soldiers who are bleating and they have only just begun.





I just hate to see the two parties I think have the best chance of helping America go down the tubes by pulling the same "Our morality is better than yours" bullshit instead of pulling out the checkbook and saying "I have to balance this.  We can get to your bullshit ideology later."





So yes.  There are many "tards" out there.  


         



Interesting.  I was going to say that so much of Arfcom is so far to the Right they make President Reagan look like a bleeding heart liberal.


 
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:52:50 AM EDT
Do you think polls on the net are even remotely truthful anymore?

We have seen blatant number falsifying on polls, based off of numbers posted by members that never changed.  Why even bother paying attention to them any longer as they don't mean shit but which direction that particular outlet wants things to lean (so they rig the poll).
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