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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:35:04 AM EDT
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I am about 1.5min with a muzzle loader rifle.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:43:14 AM EDT
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Very quick with a sidearm.
Reasonably fast with an M4. Need more practice with a SAW. ETA: Just watched the slow-downloading vid. He's |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:47:40 AM EDT
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Holy Shit
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:48:12 AM EDT
[#4]
Yeah.........well..............he needs a hair cut!
 ETA: My dad can beat up his dad! 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:52:43 AM EDT
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I would be more impressed if it were a factory gun.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:53:33 AM EDT
[#6]
true dat 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 9:56:15 AM EDT
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the mag barely reaches his waist before his handgun's reloaded... that's fast.
It would be even more impressive if he was that fast with a factory one, but still very impressive. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 10:00:17 AM EDT
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I would bet that he is nearly that fast with a factory gun. Actually I bet you could take that magwell off and his reloads would stay the same. I have seen reloads that fast on a stock Para ord. It really is just about practice. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 10:12:10 AM EDT
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Travis is pretty fast. He's not the fastest of the fast, but he's definitely up there. Travis is a Master class USPSA shooter. Some of the guys that are Grand Master are a little bit faster.
Oh, and yes, most of those guys can do similar reloads with stock guns. I've seen Blake Miguez do similar reloads with stock Glocks even though he doesn't use those in competition. The even more impressive one is Jerry Miculek doing reloads like that with a revolver. Now he is amazing to watch, and he can do those things with pretty much anything you hand him. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 10:17:10 AM EDT
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Jerry is an impressive shooter and one of the nicest guys you'll meet. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 10:58:26 AM EDT
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Serious. That think has a feed ramp a 2X4 would flop around in. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:00:46 AM EDT
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Wicked fast, but not a very concealable rig.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:03:59 AM EDT
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I can can always keep speed reloads with my stock GLOCK and mag from concealment in under 1.2 seconds
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:22:21 AM EDT
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I wonder how fast he could recover if his mag didn't drop when he hit the mag release. Sometimes that happens with factory guns/mags. He would actually have hit the mag that didn't drop with the new mag he was inserting. Then he would have to either put the new mag back in his mag pouch or position it in his fingers in a way that allowed him to strip out the expended magazine.
That's why I strip the mag from the pistol every time I do a mag change. Takes a tiny bit longer, but the mag is pretty much guaranteed to come out, and I'm not fumbling around with a new mag in the hand that's trying to un $uck my pistol. Just my $.02, for what it's worth . YMMV.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:25:35 AM EDT
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Same here. I've never really been all that impressed by people with "space guns" Show me what you can do with a stock i.e. a practical weapon for a gunfight and then I'll be impressed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:29:33 AM EDT
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The feed ramp is at the base of the chamber not magwell. A big magwell is a guid but not a funnel. If you are hitting the edge of the MW you are not going ot get a fast reload. I assure you he is getting square into the gun without so much as grazing that aftermarket magwell. Remember those are for run-n-gun. When you are standing stationary as he is, his reloads are DEAD on. Also as stated, some of these guys are as fast with factory guns. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:30:46 AM EDT
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sigh....Dont any of you read?
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:34:15 AM EDT
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Sully told me I was at or just under a second at his tactical pistol class last summer.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:37:31 AM EDT
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He's good.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:45:43 AM EDT
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He is good. Very good.
This guy practices. And then he practices some more. While all of us are on ARFCOM he is reloading, drawing, dryfiring, etc. While you are out shopping with your GF/Wife/Sig. Other he is doing drills. He shoots more in a month than most of us do in a year. This guy has muscle memory galore. No wasted motion. Zen-like control over his weapon system. He is a Master Class shooter which means he is one of the best shooters in the world. Period. Michael Voight, Todd Jarret and Rob Lathem, among others, have all worked extensively with Special Operation Units. This is because they have something to contribute and their skills have value. No flame intended. Just my opinion  |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:50:49 AM EDT
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I want to see how fast he is with the Makarov.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:52:57 AM EDT
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Travis is indeed a talented shooter. I can tell you first hand that his reloads with a stock gun are only slightly slower. And although he may be a USPSA "gamer" on the weekends, his day job is as an instructor for the US Army Marksmanship Unit out of Ft. Benning.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:57:39 AM EDT
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Miculek's revolver reloads are insane... It looks like he throws the reload into the cylinder...
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Posted: 3/16/2006 11:58:55 AM EDT
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How fast? Well, I usually tumble the brass for about 2-3 hours. Then manually sort through cases. Lubricating and resizing can take me a while for a batch of cases. Then I have to chamfer the neck and prime. Weighing the powder charge is the tedious time consuming part. Then charging and seating a bullet goes quick.
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:18:31 PM EDT
[#25]
Hahahahaha, pwn3d! From the video I would have guessed he was an LEO. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:27:49 PM EDT
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during the engagement, I think he would be hitting the other person center mass or head shots untill the "stage" was over. then he might get the shakes, but with all the training he has he would still finish the engagement. If something wrong happens on a stage, they fix it. nothing stops them, unless they are incapacitated, or the gun is really and truly broken. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:31:15 PM EDT
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Why would I ever eject a magazine onto the floor and quickly slap in a new magazine without working the slide?
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:31:56 PM EDT
[#28]
never mind, i'm an idiot
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:32:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:32:36 PM EDT
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thats bad ass...
I think I am best with an M4, next a SAW, and then a pistol...yea, I need to work on that 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:35:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Usually you grab the ejected mag and stow it in a pocket or pouch. I don't know in the real world that that's something you need to be able to do with lightening speed anyway. Not to change the subject, but there was an article, I think in SWAT, about a leo trainer that taught recruits to just stuff the ejected mag in their pocket than speed reload. I have wondered whether this might be a better answer for those of us who are not busting in doors on a regular basis. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:36:41 PM EDT
[#32]
I can't reload as fast as that guy, but I can hit "quote" faster than you can hit "edit."
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:47:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Why would you work the slide? |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:53:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Because I do not picture a situation where I would eject a magazine onto the ground and quickly slap another one in if the gun was not empty. If there is still a fight going on I'd keep shooting til the gun was empty. If I was under cover or thought I was safe from anything happening right away I'd retain that mag he's popping out onto the ground. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 12:57:40 PM EDT
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Well I have to disagree. It is standard teaching to NOT shoot your gun dry. To never be left with a gun that is not ready to go. CH ETA: ANother reason I cant stand mag safties on some firearms. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:05:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Never let your weapon run dry. Costs alot of push ups and sit ups with people in the military. Also lots of verbal abuse from the TO. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:06:25 PM EDT
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So if you're shooting at someone instead of plugging him with the last two or three bullets you'd stop and take the time to stuff a new magazine in there? Personally I think my time would be better spent shooting while the gun still has bullets in it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:07:32 PM EDT
[#38]
If the gun is at slide lock, then obviously it would have to have the slide racked. Otherwise, if you work the slide, then you're just popping out a perfectly good round. BTW, most of the guys at Travis' level are exceptionally good at counting their rounds. They know when they have an empty mag and one round left in the chamber. Also, doing a reload before you run into slide lock is a time saver. Even if there is a round or two left in the mag, you're better off getting back to the shooting quicker. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:08:23 PM EDT
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I hope if anyone ever starts shooting at me he takes the time to reload a loaded gun instead of continuing to shoot. I'll pass on that particular gem of military wisdom. 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:09:34 PM EDT
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If I could relaod as fast as the guy in the vid  Point being you need to be aware of every shot and relaod when the opurtunity is there. If you shoot your gun dry and are faced with an advancing BG and your slide is locked back you have in yoru hand a very expensive club. Reload on a hot chamber and you have at least one shot during your reload time. Not so if the gun is dry. 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 1:26:06 PM EDT
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True dat! I always LOVE it when I get to the powder charge and bullet seating cause it's almost over. Well... that and trimming the cases cause I get to use the drill!
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Posted: 3/16/2006 2:04:55 PM EDT
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A big +1 from me on that one. You reload when the opportunity presents itself and it is safe to do so, NOT when the weapon is empty. And don't worry about a mag hitting the deck. There is plenty of time to police up empty mags AFTER the fight is over. 
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Posted: 3/16/2006 2:20:19 PM EDT
[#43]
That was pretty damn fast.
One question though, why is he watching his mags into the well? Tactically I thought you were supposed to watch the target and not take your eyes from the target. That should be the case even during mag changes. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 2:27:13 PM EDT
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I love how we all try to dismantle a guy who can probably outshoot the best of us any day of the week.
I have a video of me doing a reloading drill I've been wanting to post for a while, but this guy is literally three times as fast as I am, so I guess I'll go back to doing a few more drills before I post the vid. |
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Posted: 3/16/2006 2:33:19 PM EDT
[#45]
I have heard that taught also, but honestly I don't think there's anything wrong with glancing down to make sure the mag goes in, plus you're watching someone while your gun is unloaded
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Posted: 3/17/2006 5:39:03 AM EDT
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Am I the only one that sees the inherent contradiction here? Racking the slide wastes a perfectly good round, and you get gigged for it. Dropping a mag with perfectly good rounds in it is OK though.  Aimless, I hear you brother. I rack the slide as a habit. If I seat a mag in my Glock and the slide goes forward on its own (as Glocks sometimes do) I still rack the slide. The "click" sound a Glock makes when there is no round in the chamber is a really nasty one when you really really needed it to go boom. There is a difference between training for combat, and training for gaming. The combative pistol training I have done taught us to shoot to slide lock. I learned to shoot from a guy that is a whole lot more credible than this guy in the video. I know Aimless has a few combative pistol classes under his belt too, also from top of the line schools. The method he is describing is not the traditional 'gaming' method. If you are counting rounds in a gun fight, you are wasting brain power that could be used to think about tactics. In a fight you are not worried about how many rounds you will need to finish the next "stage", you are shooting to stop a threat. If I am putting rounds into a bad guy and I suddenly realize that I only have one or two rounds left, I am definitely not going to stop shooting him to reload. Especially while he is charging at me with a knife or something. I can squeeze out two rounds faster than even the video guy can reload and I'm no pro. Combative shooters shoot to stop the threat, whatever it takes. Gamers shoot to score points, and most efficiently complete a course of fire. Big difference. I personally save retention reloads for when I'm behind cover. If I'm reloading on the run, the mag drops to the ground. As usual, I am not a pro, YMMV, just my $.02 and all that. I hear you Aimless, and I agree about shooting to slide lock in a gun fight. I could care less about points in a fight. |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 6:27:10 AM EDT
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I personally don't have a problem dropping a mag on the ground during a reload, as opposed to retaining it in a pocket or something. IMO the likely CCW shooting scenarios I will encounter will either end with me dead, or the bad guy down on the ground, not with me running away as fast as possible after having fired one or more magazines. Therefore, it is likely I will either be able to pick up my dropped mag (or have the police return it to me) afterwards, or I will be in no condition to need it anyway. |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 6:36:40 AM EDT
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I sure wish I could predict how a possible shooting scenario is going to play out ahead of time. If I am reading you correctly, those pesky "unlikely" scenarios that you don't see happening just aren't worth training for eh? I just don't understand this line of thinking, sorry. No offense intended. |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 6:43:08 AM EDT
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+eleventy-billion. |
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Posted: 3/17/2006 6:50:58 AM EDT
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Agreed. This just goes to show that military, police, and civilian tactics are not always interchangeable. You may have the luxury to stop shooting and change mags in your rifle when the rest of your platoon is still firing at the enemy. However, stopping to change mags in your handgun during the typical self defense shooting when the threat is only a few feet away would be foolish. The only times I would stop shooting to change mags would be 1. If I was behind cover, or 2. After the threat was eliminated in case there were other perps in the area. |
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