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Posted: 12/19/2016 1:56:00 AM EST
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As far as I know, they just try to scare them off rather than actually shoot them. |
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Just run out on the tarmac with your shotgun screaming about geese. Whats the worse that could happen?
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As far as I know, they just try to scare them off rather than actually shoot them. View Quote Port authority disagrees, 20,000 kills in 2 years http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/pa-killed-20k-animals-at-area-airports-in-past-two-years/ |
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Port authority disagrees, 20,000 kills in 2 years http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/pa-killed-20k-animals-at-area-airports-in-past-two-years/ View Quote “They take a kill-first approach,” said David Karopkin, founder of GooseWatch NYC, an urban-wildlife advocacy group. Funny. Karopkin doesn't sound like a Danish name. |
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My guess was going to be "go to pilot school" but then I realized that OP misspelled "shooting at" in the title.
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I mean, really.. do they reach out to pros, or do they just call john-whoever down at the whatever-gun store and ask around for potential hunters on a contract basis? Or do they literally just hand over a Bellini to Jim The Bagger http://media-cdn.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/26/Flights_Bird_Strikes_Barr_t800_hcb9b8c21c2edde306b35b711d4088a93bb1aa9c5.jpg View Quote When I was in high school the airport i worked at was actually thinking of having a bow season for deer. Then 9/11 happened and that idea went away. When I worked there they had trucks that drove around with a loud speaker system on the outside of the truck that emitted a high pitch noise that scared the birds away. Fast forward a few years and a couple guys come into the bar I work at. Long story short I started talking to the guys. They were paid by the .gov to travel around the country and hunt deer. IIRC they said they were part of the FDA, but I'm not 100% on that. let me do some digging and see if I can find something. Edit: Apparently archery season at airports is a thing again http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/25-archery-hunting-forum/109985-pittsburgh-airport-hunt.html Edit 2: couldn't find what I was looking for, but it seems like the dudes worked for the UDSA |
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I think some of those jobs might be US Fish and Wildlife. Guy I worked with told me a relative had a job like that. Did a lot of nuisance trapping, blowing up beaver dams out in the boonies, ect. |
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Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Been a long time since I worked with that guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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USDA Wildife Services handle in around here. Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Been a long time since I worked with that guy. That's them, I've worked with a few of them. They're a rare group in that every one I've known absolutely loves their job. Requires a biology degree or similar, iirc. |
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Just show up randomly one day at the airport with your shotgun.
Worked for me |
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That's them, I've worked with a few of them. They're a rare group in that every one I've known absolutely loves their job. Requires a biology degree or similar, iirc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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USDA Wildife Services handle in around here. Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Been a long time since I worked with that guy. That's them, I've worked with a few of them. They're a rare group in that every one I've known absolutely loves their job. Requires a biology degree or similar, iirc. All the above is true. And turn over is LOW. |
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Our airport (at least while I was still working out there) hired a professional "wildlife control" person to deal with everything from deer to beavers to coyotes.
Birds were always a problem and the airport security folks used shotguns with noise making shells to scare them when just driving around didn't work. There were geese, doves, various black birds, and sea gulls in the winter. Bird strike reports were very common. |
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1) Join the Air Force
2) Work in the Wing Safety Shop 3) Receive shotgun training 4) Shoot things that pose a safety hazard to the airfield |
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Port authority disagrees, 20,000 kills in 2 years http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/pa-killed-20k-animals-at-area-airports-in-past-two-years/ View Quote Stayed right next to the airport and was surprised as hell when a pickup was on the other side of the fence pulled up with a bed full of guys toting shotguns that started eliminating birds. |
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I know the kill them in Oakland, CA or at least they did. Stayed right next to the airport and was surprised as hell when a pickup was on the other side of the fence pulled up with a bed full of guys toting shotguns that started eliminating birds. View Quote In all fairness, they pretty much shoot anything that moves in Oakland. |
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I met some fed guys that 'remove' deer. They had bolt actions with suppressors. This was several years ago, and it peaked my interest enough to mention suppressors were actually allowed in MN. Just a friendly reminder. But ya, they turned out to be fed employees. Talked to them a while, friendly guys. I'm not the type to get into convo's at the range usually.
They suppress so they don't raise a ruckus. |
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Back in the 70s Dulles International Airport would call the convict road camp I worked at when they got too many deer wandering out on the runways and such.
We would load-up a van and PU with off duty guards/shotguns along with some trustees and head over there and shoot deer at night. They would close down certain areas so we could kill the deer. They did not just let us drive around where we wanted to but had a employee with a radio go with us. They just allowed us to use shotguns/buckshot. That was back before the state had to comply with a federal court order to have all the meat the convicts consumed USDA inspected. Most of the camps raised their own hogs and beef if they had the land. We had hogs but had to depend on another camp for beef so the deer was always a welcomed substitute. We would kill a PU load of deer (the trustees were there to load the deer in the PU) take them back to the camp's butcher shop and work them up. As far as birds went they had some kind of red painted "cannon" mounted on a trailer. Remembering what it looked like now I suspect it was just a modified kiln gun. As far as I know some airport employee operated that thing. I can't say if they used shot or blanks. Yeah, times have changed. What with that place being so built-up/busy now I don't know what they do about their deer population. I suspect it's a lot worse now than it was back then. |
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I recognized that as Logan Airport in Boston, and figured all the liberal tools flying out would complain if they saw geese getting shot while they're waiting for their flight. At least in this shot, this is the caption-
"In this Jan. 16, 2009 file photo, Ulysses Dublin, one of four full-time Massport wildlife technicians, fires a non-lethal pyrotechnic round from a standard shotgun to disperse birds from the runways and surrounding areas at Logan International Airport in Boston, Mass" http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2012/apr/26/senator-seeks-allow-goose-kills-near-new-york-airp/76477/ |
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I met some fed guys that 'remove' deer. They had bolt actions with suppressors. This was several years ago, and it peaked my interest enough to mention suppressors were actually allowed in MN. Just a friendly reminder. But ya, they turned out to be fed employees. Talked to them a while, friendly guys. I'm not the type to get into convo's at the range usually. They suppress so they don't raise a ruckus. View Quote "Piqued" |
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I mean, really.. do they reach out to pros, or do they just call john-whoever down at the whatever-gun store and ask around for potential hunters on a contract basis? Or do they literally just hand over a Bellini to Jim The Bagger http://media-cdn.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/26/Flights_Bird_Strikes_Barr_t800_hcb9b8c21c2edde306b35b711d4088a93bb1aa9c5.jpg View Quote A friend of mine works for the USDA and does this, also shoots deer that get on the tarmac. Said he's killed over 100 deer this year. They try to scare or trap the birds of prey but, if they return they get shot. Not a super lucrative job but he enjoys every bit of it. |
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I have been invited to hunt coyotes at the national guard base here in CT. No limit and jack lighting suggested
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A friend of mine works for the USDA and does this, also shoots deer that get on the tarmac. Said he's killed over 100 deer this year. They try to scare or trap the birds of prey but, if they return they get shot. Not a super lucrative job but he enjoys every bit of it. View Quote Did he say what they did with the meat? The "professional hunters" they use up in the Shenandoah National Park (the park is closed in the winter) just used to dump the deer carcasses off the edge of steep overlooks. |
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Our airport (at least while I was still working out there) hired a professional "wildlife control" person to deal with everything from deer to beavers to coyotes. Birds were always a problem and the airport security folks used shotguns with noise making shells to scare them when just driving around didn't work. There were geese, doves, various black birds, and sea gulls in the winter. Bird strike reports were very common. View Quote My father was hit by a duck coming in for a landing at Memphis International back in the 60's. Broke a few ribs and pissed him off pretty badly. |
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RAF Mildenhall had a falconer who knew his business. Very cool to watch him work. They also gave all the local jackrabbits some variant of an STD that made them blind and unable to move. You could walk up and kick them over. Kind of disgusting.
Lots of propane cannons in use now, and the "green" approach is to grow tall, very stiff grasses on the airfield. Apparently birds don't like landing on it. Either way it's serious business. Go read the crash report on Yukla 27 (to include the CVR transcript, which is brutal), the AWACS that went down outside Elmendorf in 1995. One night at Hurbie the field was socked in pretty good with fog. The H model that was supposed to fly weather cancelled, but the U-boat flying taxied down to hot cargo and uploaded munitions. They took the active, went to power and hit a deer just prior to rotation. The pilot declared an immediate IFE, and they swiveled one of the cameras around to where they could see the remains hanging in ribbons from the (still extended) gear and cables. Bounced the plane around to clear what they could, then landed uneventfully. Crew left to go drinking, and my guys had to clean it up. F**king seriously gross...still don't know how that gear exploded a deer and sustained no damage. |
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Likely varies a bit, but for accessing the airfield you have to take a course on airport movement/operations, then you take a wildlife course and then they issue your a certificate. You'll need to be issued an access badge as well.
Basically, the airport maint guys handle it. |
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I was doing some work at a port up north, waiting for my permit, when a guy came in to get a permit for his hawks. He was there to get rid of all the sea gulls. I thought that was pretty cool. Didn't get to see the Hawks in action though.
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http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201001/b31ec0cbbb3b76153517a278a9e93cba.jpg Gophers are more my speed. View Quote Varmint-Cong is a worthy adversary |
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