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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:58:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2015 8:59:46 PM EST by ContrarianIndicator]
So lets see where Germany was immediately after ww2 in 1945:

- Most of the country bombed to shit, including infrastructure, factories, not to mention residential

- Huge number of males age 18-35 killed in action (Most important demographic decimated)

- Government collapsed

- Country split into two, east and west, each under different systems of administration

- Entire world pissed as shit at Germany for starting ww2, including superpowers Russia, USA, UK, etc, not mention Nazi warcrimes like holocaust

- massive debts owed to countries for starting the war









Now, barely two generations later 2015, Germany is an economic world superpower, incredible standards of living, very high HDI (human development Index), high GPD








so Germany can turn around this fast from such a dire situation and you're telling me there are African countries who have been independent for 200 years, with billions of dollars of aid thrown at them and they still cant provide clean drinking water for their citizens?


-copied from misc-
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:01:05 PM EST
They also had to deal with the Russian shit holes.

Africa is just full of shit.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:01:52 PM EST
This thread is so racist.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:02:25 PM EST
My brother once put it this way...

Please explain how the zebra was never domesticated.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:02:27 PM EST
Because Germany is inhabited by Germans.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:02:30 PM EST
Because white people
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:02:38 PM EST

Tribal cultures, subjugated by imperialism, poorly prepared for freedom, set in a world with borders designed by European idiots.
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
They also had to deal with the Russian shit holes.

Africa is just full of shit.
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You mean it's full of some of the most dense natural resources in the entire world?
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:03:08 PM EST
Cauuuuuuuuuse..... Germany's full of Germans and .........
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:04:04 PM EST
The problem with Africa is it is full of Africans.....that has got to be a quote.
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Originally Posted By dogsplat:
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Safest answer
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:04:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Eitek1:
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This.

For the record, North Africans (Egyptians, Carthaginians, Numidians, etc..) were some of the most advanced peoples in the Ancient World for the longest time.

Sub-Saharan Africans....not so much, aside from a few notable exceptions.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:05:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By steinhab:

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Just like the Middle East!
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:05:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By steinhab:
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There have been humans living in Africa longer than anywhere else on Earth, yet they're one of the least developed regions.

They'd be even worse off if colonialism hadn't happened.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:06:40 PM EST
I know someone that has done work in Africa and he basically said that everyone they dealt with there was trying to either cheat them, or kill them. He said that they do want success but they don't want to work for it as it would be easier to steal or kill for it. No concept or value of long term investment.
Basically just give it to me now.

Beautiful country and if they could ever get their shit together they could be a huge power in the world with all their resources, but they're impatient.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:06:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:


This.

For the record, North Africans (Egyptians, Carthaginians, Numidians, etc..) were some of the most advanced peoples in the Ancient World for the longest time.

Sub-Saharan Africans....not so much, aside from a few notable exceptions.
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:
Originally Posted By Eitek1:
My brother once put it this way...

Please explain how the zebra was never domesticated.


This.

For the record, North Africans (Egyptians, Carthaginians, Numidians, etc..) were some of the most advanced peoples in the Ancient World for the longest time.

Sub-Saharan Africans....not so much, aside from a few notable exceptions.


They have advanced in leaps and bounds, I mean look at the Egypt's new space station.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:06:57 PM EST
The environmental stresses placed on European humans created a heartier, more capable strain.
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Originally Posted By steinhab:

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I knew Africa's problems were somehow caused by Europe!
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Originally Posted By steinhab:

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Between that and the whole running around in loin cloths hunting with spears while the rest of the world was entering the industrial revolution. That kind of speaks to the different cultural mindsets. Innovate and expand vs. This is how we've always done it.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:07:45 PM EST
Africa is not a country.

It is a bazzillon little shit countries that don't like each other.

Like South America on steroids.

Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:08:24 PM EST

Because they have brains, skills, motivation, and pride in themselves and their culture.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:08:55 PM EST
The trouble with Africa is...



Extrapolate that as far as you need to.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:09:25 PM EST
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Someone posted a term his college professor used to explain how people in the tropics or sub-tropics never advanced. It dealt with the climate not trying to freeze them to death or starve them to death for months of the year.

Surplus of something....whatever.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:09:45 PM EST
Op are you a white supremacist?
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:10:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:


Just like the Middle East!
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:
Originally Posted By steinhab:

Tribal cultures, subjugated by imperialism, poorly prepared for freedom, set in a world with borders designed by European idiots.


Just like the Middle East!


Yep, great comparison. Look how the Middle East is doing. Only thing helping them is readily accessible oil that barely has to travel a few hundred miles before being loaded into ships.

Kind of like the various nations of the Americas, they too are all sorts of fucked up because of European imperialism and colonialism. Asia too.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:10:54 PM EST
Uh, Marshall Plan. Starring George Marshall

No Marshall Plan for Africa.

Africa is a continent, Germany a country. Africa had little techology expertise. Germany had a lot of human resources of vast experience and ability.

Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:10:57 PM EST
One of these things is not like the other.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:12:25 PM EST
Geography of Germany is night and day different than Africa.

In Africa, you don't have a lot of mountains that feed rivers down into valleys with high precipitation yearly, with deep sea ports near the mouths of those rivers.

In Africa, you don't have people united by common language integrated with their industries, supporting each other well-quite the contrary.

The US also didn't take any of the nations of Africa under her protective wing, commit to rebuilding, and maintain security to the present day.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:12:26 PM EST
As for northern Africa and the middle east Islam is the reason those countries/region will always be crap holes.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:13:01 PM EST
Because Germany has DIVERSITY on it's side. Africa does not.
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Uh, Marshall Plan. Starring George Marshall

No Marshall Plan for Africa.

Africa is a continent, Germany a country. Africa had little techology expertise. Germany had a lot of human resources of vast experience and ability.

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The Marshall Plan dealt with all of Western Europe.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:15:47 PM EST
Africa is full of Africans. That is why they always win.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:16:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Locke556:

There have been humans living in Africa longer than anywhere else on Earth, yet they're one of the least developed regions.

They'd be even worse off if colonialism hadn't happened.
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Originally Posted By Locke556:
Originally Posted By steinhab:
Tribal cultures, subjugated by imperialism, poorly prepared for freedom, set in a world with borders designed by European idiots.

There have been humans living in Africa longer than anywhere else on Earth, yet they're one of the least developed regions.

They'd be even worse off if colonialism hadn't happened.


...or, one could say they've done a great job of conserving their land's natural beauty!
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:18:12 PM EST
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Final answer. comparing an African country to a European one is like comparing a horse drawn plow to the space shuttle.
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Please explain the effect this has on domesticating the zebra. I argued with my brother about this. He said do you think for a minute that if the U.S. had a zebra population that they wouldn't at least be pulling wagons. I had to yield to his logic.

I have no explanation why Africa doesn't look like Germany and the zebra is still a wild animal.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:20:00 PM EST
Culture.

Unfortunately that same culture is committing suicide.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:20:50 PM EST
genetics...
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You know who discusses race more than the left?

Arfcom.


Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:21:02 PM EST
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Gonna go with this.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:21:06 PM EST
I'm not touching this one with a scat porn DVD.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:22:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By skebe:
I know someone that has done work in Africa and he basically said that everyone they dealt with there was trying to either cheat them, or kill them. He said that they do want success but they don't want to work for it as it would be easier to steal or kill for it. No concept or value of long term investment.
Basically just give it to me now.
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Oh, you mean just like, um, never mind.
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:



Someone posted a term his college professor used to explain how people in the tropics or sub-tropics never advanced. It dealt with the climate not trying to freeze them to death or starve them to death for months of the year.

Surplus of something....whatever.
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
The environmental stresses placed on European humans created a heartier, more capable strain.



Someone posted a term his college professor used to explain how people in the tropics or sub-tropics never advanced. It dealt with the climate not trying to freeze them to death or starve them to death for months of the year.

Surplus of something....whatever.


http://www.amazon.com/Race-Evolution-Behavior-History-Perspective/dp/0965683621/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1440814574&sr=1-1&keywords=race+evolution+and+behavior

Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective---Mass Market Paperback, by J. Philippe Rushton (Author)

Using evidence from psychology, anthropology, sociology and other scientific disciplines, this book shows that there are at least three biological races (subspecies) of man Orientals (i.e., Mongoloids or Asians), Blacks (i.e., Negroids or Africans), and Whites (i.e., Caucasoids or Europeans). There are recognizable profiles for the three major racial groups on brain size, intelligence, personality and temperament, sexual behavior, and rates of fertility, maturation and longevity. The profiles reveal that, ON AVERAGE, Orientals and their descendants around the world fall at one end of the continuum, Blacks and their descendants around the world fall at the other end of the continuum, Europeans regularly fall in between. This worldwide pattern implies evolutionary and genetic, rather than purely social, political, economic, or cultural causes.


Even mentioning that this book existed almost got me thrown out of my Sociology class.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:23:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:


This.

For the record, North Africans (Egyptians, Carthaginians, Numidians, etc..) were some of the most advanced peoples in the Ancient World for the longest time.

Sub-Saharan Africans....not so much, aside from a few notable exceptions.
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Originally Posted By Headless_Ned:
Originally Posted By Eitek1:
My brother once put it this way...

Please explain how the zebra was never domesticated.


This.

For the record, North Africans (Egyptians, Carthaginians, Numidians, etc..) were some of the most advanced peoples in the Ancient World for the longest time.

Sub-Saharan Africans....not so much, aside from a few notable exceptions.

But they are both pure and lazy humans
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:23:41 PM EST
I seen monkeys throwing sticks at a lion and they looked like they were
using the wrong hand. Kinda threw like a girl.
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Originally Posted By Eitek1:
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Yes it was...


Sheena was an african
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:26:26 PM EST
Germany didn't fully recover until the 1980s but Africa suffers from many ails that will take along time to fix.

Few African countries have a stable government to enforce contracts which is the bedrock for economic growth.

Sub Saharan Africa was essentially thrust into the future with colonialism. They were 10000 years behind the europeans.
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Originally Posted By stevem1a:


http://www.amazon.com/Race-Evolution-Behavior-History-Perspective/dp/0965683621/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1440814574&sr=1-1&keywords=race+evolution+and+behavior

Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective---Mass Market Paperback, by J. Philippe Rushton (Author)



Even mentioning that this book existed almost got me thrown out of my Sociology class.
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By Taboot:
The environmental stresses placed on European humans created a heartier, more capable strain.



Someone posted a term his college professor used to explain how people in the tropics or sub-tropics never advanced. It dealt with the climate not trying to freeze them to death or starve them to death for months of the year.

Surplus of something....whatever.


http://www.amazon.com/Race-Evolution-Behavior-History-Perspective/dp/0965683621/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1440814574&sr=1-1&keywords=race+evolution+and+behavior

Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective---Mass Market Paperback, by J. Philippe Rushton (Author)

Using evidence from psychology, anthropology, sociology and other scientific disciplines, this book shows that there are at least three biological races (subspecies) of man Orientals (i.e., Mongoloids or Asians), Blacks (i.e., Negroids or Africans), and Whites (i.e., Caucasoids or Europeans). There are recognizable profiles for the three major racial groups on brain size, intelligence, personality and temperament, sexual behavior, and rates of fertility, maturation and longevity. The profiles reveal that, ON AVERAGE, Orientals and their descendants around the world fall at one end of the continuum, Blacks and their descendants around the world fall at the other end of the continuum, Europeans regularly fall in between. This worldwide pattern implies evolutionary and genetic, rather than purely social, political, economic, or cultural causes.


Even mentioning that this book existed almost got me thrown out of my Sociology class.


His professor coined a term, he posted it here several years ago. Surplus of Harsh Environment or Deficit of Moderate...I do not even know if I am close. It was in a thread about Hawaii and it turned to how come the Hawaiians or Polynesians never really advanced beyond what would be considered a hunter/fishing/gathering existence...Answer, they did not have too.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:27:47 PM EST
Did I make it in before the "Africa has a couple nice cities and you're all racist and would be smart like me if you visited one of the few really nice cities built by Europeans in Africa but you're just racist " crowd?
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:31:49 PM EST
Always look at the demographics. It never lies.
Link Posted: 8/28/2015 9:33:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Eitek1:
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check your privilege, bro.



Zebra carriage to Buckingham Palace. Renowned zoologist, Walter Rothschild driving a zebra-drawn carriage to Buckingham Palace

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