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Posted: 5/13/2004 4:52:38 AM EST
A Islamic food kitchen for the homeless?

A Islamic Hospital for kids?

An Islamic Blood drive?

Lots of christian churches are always doing things for their local community, how come Islam doesn't?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Sg­tar15
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 4:53:35 AM EST
Cause all the money goes to buy C4 explosives.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 4:58:28 AM EST
Because only Humans are capable of empathy.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:03:05 AM EST
maybe because you actually have to look.


http://www.islam-directory.com/Charity.html



Charity Web Site Links
Zakaat - Charity - Zakaat is one of the five fundamentals of Islaam. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam said: Islaam is founded on Five Pillars: bearing witness that there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad Sallallahu alayhi wasallam is His servant and apostle; establishment of Salaat; paying of Zakaat; performance of Hajj; and fasting in Ramadhaan.

Islam and Charity - After Imaan, Salaat is the most important act of worship which has to be performed bodily and Zakaat is the main act of worship which is to be performed monetarily. Salaat and Zakaat has been mentioned together many times in the Qur'aan: " . . and establish regular Salaat and give regular Zakaat".

Benefits of Giving Zakaat - There are many benefits mentioned in the Ahaadeeth for the one who gives his Zakaat.

Withholding Zakaat - Consequences in this world - Rasoolullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam has warned us fourteen hundred years ago, against all those evil practices which bring calamities and afflictions in this world.

Masaa'il (Laws & Rules) pertaining to Zakaat - Zakaat is essential and compulsory for one who possesses 612 grams of silver or about 88 grams of gold and one year has Passed over it and remains with him unused or consumed. If the quantity is less than this, then Zakaat will not be compulsory.

Withholdin Zakaat - Consequences in the Hereafter - And those who hoard gold and silver and do not spend it in the way of Allah, give them tidings of a painful punishment. On that day it (i.e. the wealth) will be heated in the fire of Jahannam, then their foreheads and their flanks and their backs will be branded therewith and (it will be said to them): Here is (the treasure) which you hoarded for yourselves. Now taste that which you had been hoarding." (9:34-35)

Zakaat On Produce Of Land - If anyone inherits such Ushree land from his ancestors or purchases it from a Muslim who held it as Ushree, then Zakaat is essential on whatever is produced in the land.

Who Is Entitled To Receive Zakaat? - One who does not possess so much of wealth or has very little even to be sufficient for one day, he is called a poor. Paying to and receiving by such persons of Zakaatt money is in order and permissible.

Sadqa-e-Fitr - Any Muslim who has so much that Zakaat is due on him or on whom Zakaat is not essential but has goods more than his need on whose value Zakaat could be due, whether the property is for trade or not and whether a year has passed on it or not, it is essential for him to give Sadqah on Eid day and this charity is called Sadqa-e-Fitr.

H.O.M.S. - Housing Outreach for Muslim Sisters - A temporary shelter for homeless Muslim women and their children in an Islamic environment.

Islamic Directory - Make donations to help poor Muslims around the world by searcing through The-Islam portal.

HAWCA - Website for the organization promoting humanitarian assistance for the women and children of Afghanistan.

Human Appeal International - International aid organization established in the United Arab Emirates operating in the field of development and socio-economic relief. HAI has consultative status with the UN.

Sadaqa Donations Online - Submit your donations online, to be used for dawah and sadaqa dispersement by Muttaqun OnLine.

Islamic American Relief Agency - IARA-USA is a non-profit organization devoted to human relief and participatory development. From orphan sponsorships to clean water and refugee aid, IARA works with more than 30 International Partners to provide aid quickly and efficiently.

Islamic Relief - Islamic Relief is a registered charity which sponsors orphans through both a general fund and one to one sponsorship. It also offer the facility of online donations to other Islamic Relief projects.

Muslim Hands Website - International Islamic relief organisation collecting Zakah and Sadaqah to establish projects to help relieve victims of poverty and disaster worldwide.

Human Interaction for Religious Understanding - Brookings, South Dakota-based volunteer human services organization which applies the Islamic laws of charity to locals in need of refugee services, elder care, mentoring, and other concerns.

Five Pillars Charity - Pakistani mission devoted to helping orphans in Pakistan and the West.

Islamiq.com Zakah Center - Portal for those wishing to make zakah and sadaqah payments, representing a variety of eligible organizations.

Muslim Global Relief - Muslim Global Relief, (MGR) is a registered charity within the United Kingdom which has been established to help those most in need around the world.

The Zakat Foundation of America - The Zakat Foundation of America is an International non-profit organization based in Chicago, USA. The Zakat Foundation is providing education, relief and assistance to the needy in the USA and abroad.

The Zakât Page - The purpose of this site is to develop a better understanding of the worldwide practice of Zakât (Giving Alms).

Zakat - The Prescribed Charity - It's a site for the new and general muslims about the way of prescribed charity (Zakat).

Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:05:01 AM EST
Becuase they only take care of their own.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:09:15 AM EST
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:20:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/13/2004 5:23:52 AM EST by lawsec]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15



I noted the same thing. I can talk all day of charitable giving, but without acting on it, it isn't worth the air I wasted talking about it.

Then again, I have read about drives to raise funds for the Palistinians - Maybe through the Islamic Directory.

I guess that charity consists of sending funds for the Palistinians to buy explosives to strap to their children....
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:23:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
Cause all the money goes to buy C4 explosives.



because as we all know C4 explosives are readily available at your local Wally World... so come on down!! Hyuk hyuk hyuk.

I think they spend the money on flight schools.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:28:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/13/2004 5:31:05 AM EST by Ghostchild]
well sorry sarge im at work and can't take off all day to run around town taking pictures for you.

www.muslimhands.org/appeals/iran/emergency.php


www.muslimhands.org

That is appalling!, how dare they ask for money to help those in need! its probably all going for flight school and C4, (when actually they use semtex, its a russian brand, a little less stable, but a little more powerful)



falling on deaf ears i suppose but, at least I can say i tried.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:32:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15



I wonder how many countries are worse off because of Christian Missionaries, sure they might not have food, or potable water, or antibiotics to stave off the infections, but by gosh and golly they have thier bible to make it through those tough nights.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:35:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:
well sorry sarge im at work and can't take off all day to run around town taking pictures for you.

www.muslimhands.org/appeals/iran/emergency.php


www.muslimhands.org

That is appalling!, how dare they ask for money to help those in need! its probably all going for flight school and C4, (when actually they use semtex, its a russian brand, a little less stable, but a little more powerful)



falling on deaf ears i suppose but, at least I can say i tried.



Still don't see any buildings...

And why don't Muslims do this in the USA??


I can easily think of 4 hospitals in my town that are run by Christian organizations.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:36:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15



I wonder how many countries are worse off because of Christian Missionaries, sure they might not have food, or potable water, or antibiotics to stave off the infections, but by gosh and golly they have thier bible to make it through those tough nights.



Never heard of Mother Teresa have you?
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:40:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15



I wonder how many countries are worse off because of Christian Missionaries, sure they might not have food, or potable water, or antibiotics to stave off the infections, but by gosh and golly they have thier bible to make it through those tough nights.



You have no idea what Christian missionaries actually do, and have done, in the way providing shelter, water, food, and medical care in the backwaters of the world.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:40:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:41:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Still don't see any buildings...

And why don't Muslims do this in the USA??


I can easily think of 4 hospitals in my town that are run by Christian organizations.



The Zakat Foundation of America - The Zakat Foundation of America is an International non-profit organization based in Chicago, USA. The Zakat Foundation is providing education, relief and assistance to the needy in the USA and abroad.

Yeah why don't they do this in the USA!

what is the deal with the buildings? Like I have to jet you around the world (and here in USA some of these places have addresses, what are they made up?) to show you these places up close and then you will say "OH! I see the building now!" WTF?

Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:43:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By anothergene:
Come to think of it, theres a lot you never see...a muslim NASCAR driver, olympic swimmer or interior decorator.



Nascar doesn't allow camels to race. There are very few pools in the desert. And the only guy that has a house worth decorating in the Mid East is the dictator.


If they have child molestation problems in the Mosques, it sure is kept quiet.
Do Muslims even have porn of their own, besides what they just sell?
Thought provoking.



Goat porn....lots of goat porn.

SGtar15
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:44:49 AM EST
I would bet that of those that Ghost Child listed, that most if not all are fronts for funneling money to terrorist groups....
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:45:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ghostchild,

That nice. But I didn't see any actual buildings in your lists. Maybe I missed them.

I also wonder how many of those orginizations you listed have monmey that ends up in terrorist hands???

Or rather how many or terrorist fronts for money laundering.

SGtar15



I wonder how many countries are worse off because of Christian Missionaries, sure they might not have food, or potable water, or antibiotics to stave off the infections, but by gosh and golly they have thier bible to make it through those tough nights.



You have no idea what Christian missionaries actually do, and have done, in the way providing shelter, water, food, and medical care in the backwaters of the world.



Actually I do, I am not saying that there are groups out there that don't do wonderful things, Mother Theresa is a good example.

But with the good come the bad. Some misguided sould thinking that all they need is the word of God, when in acutality these people need help. lots of help.

Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:45:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

what is the deal with the buildings?






Because I am willing to bet that a large percentage of these Islam fund organizations actually use their money to fund terrorism while lying to you that the money is used for something else.

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:48:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

what is the deal with the buildings?






Because I am willing to bet that a large percentage of these Islam fund organizations actually use their money to fund terrorism while lying to you that the money is used for something else.

Sgtar15



Do you have hard evidence either way?

You posted a question about how come you never see this.
I showed you what I found.
Then you go on to take issue with something else
/rant "Well they must be terrorists then!, brainwashing and buying explosives"

shit you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 6:00:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/13/2004 6:05:32 AM EST by ScaryGuy]

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:

But with the good come the bad. Some misguided sould thinking that all they need is the word of God, when in acutality these people need help. lots of help.




Misguided is right, for if they truly understood the Word of God, they'd know that the HELP is what He wants them to give, and in so doing, illustrates the Message that IS the Gospel of Jesus.

And for the record, 99.9% of Christian Missionaries give aid in the form of shelter, food, medical care etc... First, as a witness to the Love of God to those they are charged to bring the Word to.

I don't recall any Methodist or Baptist missionaries blowing up the Villagers or lopping off their heads with a pocketknife or crashing the Cessna Bush Plane into the Village Chief's hut because they didn't accept the message, though. In fact, most of them go right on caring for and helping...REGARDLESS of their acceptance of or rejecton of Christianity. Frankly, there's quite a stark contrast in what the two Gods admonish their follwers to do, huh? "Love thine enemy, Turn the other Cheek, The Greatest of these is Love " or " Hey, Achmed, Go Lop that guy's head off with a Carving Knife, He's an Infidel". Hmmmm...

Seems to me the "Religion of Peace" (TM, 2004, Hezbollah) only cares about , ahem, "helping" it's own. It's good that they have their Islamic "Charity" fronts: Explosives and knives CAN get expensive you know, even at 7th Century pricing...

SG

Edited to correct spelling and to clarify.

Link Posted: 5/13/2004 6:00:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ghostchild:
Do you have hard evidence either way?




Yes, many Islamic organization in America have been shut down and have had there money held since 9-11 because of their ties with terrorism


You posted a question about how come you never see this.
I showed you what I found.




Yes you did, and I thank you.

Unfortunitely none of those links showed actuall hospitals or other type of scoial buildings. The only links you gave me showed money leaving the country to help other Muslims. My local church sends money abroad a little, but mainly uses its money for the local community, including the hospital which anyone can go to.

SGtar15
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 6:06:36 AM EST
Because the Islamists are sub-human heathens who understand nothing other than being killed in large numbers.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 6:10:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/13/2004 6:23:42 AM EST by pathfinder74]
Starting a thread like this one can't help but wonder... does someone have his hat on today?





Ghostchild: This fact check is brought to you by the letter C and the number 4.


SYLLABICATION: Sem·tex
PRONUNCIATION: smtks
NOUN: A highly malleable plastic explosive.
ETYMOLOGY: Semt(ín), village in the Czech Republic where the explosive is manufactured + English ex(plosive).
Reference




Semtex is a general-purpose plastic explosive. First made by the Semtin Glassworks (then called VCHZ Synthesia, now called Explosia) in former Czechoslovakia (now the Czech Republic). Used in commercial blasting and demolition and in certain military applications. Its notoriety is due to its popularity with terrorists because it was, until recently, extremely difficult to detect, and as little as 250 g could down an airliner (312 g in the case of Pan Am flight 103).

There are two common varieties, A for blasting and H (or SE) for hardening:

Semtex H Semtex A
PETN 49.8 % 94.3 %
RDX 50.2 % 5.7 %
Dye Sudan I (red-orange) Sudan IV
Antioxidant N-phenyl-2-naphthalamine same
Plasticizer n-octyl phthalate butyl citrate same
Binder styrene-butadiene rubber same


The explosive is named after Semtin, a suburb of Pardubice in eastern Bohemia where the compound was first manufactured. It was invented in 1966 by Stanislav Brebera, a chemist at VCHZ Synthesia. It was like other plastic explosives, especially C-4, in that it was easily malleable but it was usable over a greater temperature range than other types. The new explosive was widely exported, notably to the government of North Vietnam which received over 12 tonnes. However the main consumer was Libya, about 700 tonnes of Semtex were exported to Libya between 1975 and 1981 by Omnipol.

Exports fell after the name became closely associated with terrorist blasts and as of 2001 only around 10 tonnes of Semtex was produced annually, almost all for domestic use. Export of Semtex was progressively tightened and from 2002 all of Explosia's sales were controlled by a government ministry.

Also in response to international pressure, Semtex has ethylene glycol dinitrate added to produce a distinctive odour to aid detection. Efforts have also been made to reduce the shelf-life of Semtex from its current 20 years to three or even less but have proved difficult, and all new supplies contain a identifying metallic code.
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