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Posted: 6/19/2007 5:57:22 PM EST
I had a strange craving for apple juice the other night as I was walking through Krogers. I never drink apple juice but saw the Kroger brand on the end cap and bought it.

Tonight I just got done taking a drink from the bottle and noticed a small marking that said "apple juice concentrate from China". WTF, how can it be cheaper to ship apple juice half way around the world than it is to make it here?

Had I seen that it came from China I never would have bought it. Now I have to wonder what is really in it since I know that even with the concentrate being shipped half way around the world it was still the cheapest apple juice by far as it was the Kroger brand. It tastes fine but I think I'm going to throw it out.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 5:58:01 PM EST
Melamine.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 5:58:06 PM EST
Labor
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 5:58:31 PM EST
It'll turn you into a communist!
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 5:59:00 PM EST
It's not really apple juice.

Link Posted: 6/19/2007 5:59:25 PM EST
They use ethylene glycol as a sweetener in China. I'd watch those kidneys the next couple of days.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:00:31 PM EST
By drinking it , it makes you closer to being a communist. Your almost there.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:01:49 PM EST
commie urine

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Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:02:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It's not really apple juice.



Soylent apple juice!



Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:02:47 PM EST
They cut it with antifreeze toothpaste.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:09:08 PM EST
Because China's price level is significantly lower than ours. So our money will buy significantly more apple juice there than it will here. Everything is less expensive there, labor, land, natural resources, etc.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:10:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/19/2007 6:11:03 PM EST by ElCamino]

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It's not really apple juice.



Me Chinese, me play joke....

ETA: And yes as a dirty white boy I do find pee-pee in coke to be hilarious.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:12:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By geeze:
Labor


How much can labor be? We have illegals to pick the fruit, you know the jobs that Americans don't want to do. After the apples are picked it's all pretty much an automated mechanical process here in the US. I don't see labor being much of an issue for something like juice.

On the commie juice you have the extra transportation costs to port in China, dock workers loading the boat, US dock workers unloading the boat, and then transportation to the Kroger bottling facility.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:15:07 PM EST
Here's a pic of the juice and marking.


Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:15:39 PM EST
Infant slave labor.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:23:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Infant slave labor.


I have it on good authority that the infant slaves arent given ladders. Keeps the overhead down.
They stuff 'em in mortar tubes and arc 'em into the tree tops. After five years they let 'em climb down.
Just sayin'.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:25:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:

Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Infant slave labor.


I have it on good authority that the infant slaves arent given ladders. Keeps the overhead down.
They stuff 'em in mortar tubes and arc 'em into the tree tops. After five years they let 'em climb down.
Just sayin'.


Only if they have met the pickin' quota
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:28:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By nicholsmf:

Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:

Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Infant slave labor.


I have it on good authority that the infant slaves arent given ladders. Keeps the overhead down.
They stuff 'em in mortar tubes and arc 'em into the tree tops. After five years they let 'em climb down.
Just sayin'.


Only if they have met the pickin' quota


They gotta start school sometime.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:31:09 PM EST
As a geographer, I'm guessing that it is due to large government based subsidies.

It follows the same logic that it is cheaper for Jamaicans to buy powdered milk from the United States than to raise cows to produce their own.

Free-market capitalism has become distorted by substitutes and the WTO.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:38:54 PM EST
Duhhh. It says, "concentrate from China." Their only contribution to the apple juice is intense thought. What's the problem???
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:40:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/19/2007 6:41:49 PM EST by ben72227]
Most concentrates are not from the USA. Most of them are from China and South/Central America.

I think it's more of an availability thing than anything else. You buy what you can. Obviously some things have to be imported because they aren't native to the USA - stuff like Bananas I would assume, and of course some stuff only comes from the USA - like oranges and peaches.

Maybe they use the USA Apples for important apple stuff - like Apple Pies.
THey use the low grade Chinese stuff for old-people/infant food - stuff like apple sauce, apple juice, etc.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 6:45:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:

Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Infant slave labor.


I have it on good authority that the infant slaves arent given ladders. Keeps the overhead down.
They stuff 'em in mortar tubes and arc 'em into the tree tops. After five years they let 'em climb down.
Just sayin'.



Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:02:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By geeze:
Labor



Ding

We have a winner

How it's done in the US
You pay some Mexican $16-18 a bin to pick them, $8+ an hour to thin them $8+ an hour to prop the trees, property tax, water, equipment and upkeep of same, general repairs, fuel for the tractors, fuel and upkeep on the windmachines, insecticides, herbicides, bees (yes BEES), insurance (property, liability & hail), packing costs.....................................................................................................................

Then after all that, your packing shed sends your culls to the processing plant (ie Tree Top, Seneca.....), they take their cut.

Then the wholesaler/distributor gets theirs.

Cant leave out the supermarket.

Orchardist gets $55 a ton. on a good year. $7-20 a packed box depending on type, size and grade

How it's done in China

Force Chinese pheasant to do all the labor, communist government flips the bill on all the rest.

Send to processing plant ran by communist government , and poison

Lowball the price and sell to US wholesaler/distributor.

Wholesaler/distributor sells to supermarket both getting big cuts.

BTW, no law prevents them from using insecticides banned in the US.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:03:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By BlammO:
Duhhh. It says, "concentrate from China." Their only contribution to the apple juice is intense thought. What's the problem???


Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:08:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By brentwal:


How it's done in China

Force Chinese pheasant to do all the labor, communist government flips the bill on all the rest.

Send to processing plant ran by communist government, and poison

Lowball the price and sell to US wholesaler/distributor.

Wholesaler/distributor sells to supermarket both getting big cuts.

BTW, no law prevents them from using insecticides banned in the US.



They either have some damn skilled animal trainers over there, or their birds are just a lot smarter than ours.



(Sorry, couldn't resist )
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:11:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By ben72227:
Maybe they use the USA Apples for important apple stuff - like Apple Pies.
THey use the low grade Chinese stuff for old-people/infant food - stuff like apple sauce, apple juice, etc.


Chinese apple pie video
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:11:11 PM EST
How pathetic.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 7:16:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By geeze:
Labor


Yep, you can thank the minimum wage and various labor-related taxes for driving such production overseas.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:05:58 PM EST
I can't believe no one has laid claim yet!


Dibs on your guns!
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:38:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It's not really apple juice.




Dammit I was thinking the same thing. Between you and MrClean4hire I can't get a thread in edgewise!
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:42:49 PM EST
As long as it doesnt have Ecoli.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:51:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By geeze:
Labor


Yep, you can thank the minimum wage and various labor-related taxes for driving such production overseas.


And farm subsidies...

You 'must' pay this much for farm products, so we can keep Joe Family Farmer in business when it is not economically sound for him to be there...

Gotta love that populisim....
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:51:20 PM EST
BUT BUT BUT I thought only Wal-Mart sells stuff from China? Are we all going to boycott Krogers now?
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 8:52:53 PM EST
It's all part of the communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.

Part of the Chinese advantage could be the exchange rate. Let the Yuan float and see if their apple juice is competitive.
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 9:26:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By blackjack333:

Originally Posted By ben72227:
Maybe they use the USA Apples for important apple stuff - like Apple Pies.
THey use the low grade Chinese stuff for old-people/infant food - stuff like apple sauce, apple juice, etc.


Chinese apple pie video



holy shit, 2$ fucking suits!!!!

I know where im going next trip!!!!! im gonna get me like 20 suits, so im covered for the rest of my fuckin life!
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 10:30:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By xm15-e2s:
It's all part of the communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.


Bingo! Spot on!

Have you ever seen a communist drink a glass of water?
Link Posted: 6/19/2007 10:52:17 PM EST
My sister went to the islands last year

I asked her to bring me back a bottle of the cheap local rum

It was distilled in Kentucky


How do you distill a liter of rum, ship it halfway across the country, all the way across the Carribean, and have it come out cheaper than JAMAICAN RUM?
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