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Posted: 10/28/2013 11:58:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 12:17:15 PM EST by drewQ22]
I use a Surefire x300 mounted on an m&p and was thinking of getting some input on how you guys tend to activate your pistol mounted lights.

I use a thumbs forward grip:

1) Typically I just drop my thumb down and push forward for momentary on when using the light:

2) Or this is an option of maybe curling the thumb down and pushing forward on the switch with your thumbnail, but the nail could slide around on the switch when firing:

3) Another option I found is dropping the thumb down and applying enough pressure downward on the switch where it momentarily activates, but it does not fully activate the constant on function:

4) The last option is having a DG switch, which I have never used.


What do you guys use? Or suggest something different.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:01:19 PM EST
My light I activate with my left hand finger. Too far forward on on my HK tactical.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:02:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 4:39:29 PM EST by Top_Secret]
DG Switch on X300s, top of the switch on a Insight APL. Using thumbs on the Surefire sucks.

Edit: Apparently I can't remember what my lights are called.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:03:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 12:04:05 PM EST by Snips]
Mine is girl activated only, not guy activated.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:05:48 PM EST
G22 w/ surefire light, middle finger pressure on a DevGru style tape switch. The only way to fly.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:05:55 PM EST
Mine uses a Clapper (TM).
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:16:24 PM EST
I shoot a Glock 17 with a Surefire x300 ultra and I have always done #1. Dropping my thumb down and pushing forward for momentary-on.

The problem that I always have is that when I'm firing while pushing forward for momentary-on, the upward recoil of the pistol ends up pushing the switch into constant-on.
Then when I take my thumb off the switch and move or reload I expect the light to turn off when I let go, but of course it doesn't, and I end up lighting up my location.
Clearly, not good.

Has anyone else figured out a solution to this problem?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:16:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
DG Switch on X300s, top of the switch on a Insight MPL. Using thumbs on the Surefire sucks.
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Yeah I feel like it compromises your grip.

With the DG switch does the light go every time you grip the gun?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:18:31 PM EST
With a TLR-1 on a Glock 19, it's an easy reach with the left thumb to press down on the momentary rocker.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:18:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Snips:
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LOL. My bad I changed it.


Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:19:51 PM EST
What you're calling the "drop thumb."

I use the Streamlight TLRs, and I believe the switch configuration is the same.

For one-handed use, I turn the light to constant on by pushing my right index finger down. I feel it works exactly as I'd like it to with either one or two hands.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:20:01 PM EST
Surefire TRL-1s on my M&P, using thumb but always looking for better options. So tag.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:21:10 PM EST
I toss chemlights,
I crack a whole bunch of em when i'm ready to fo, then toss as needed
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:23:48 PM EST
Thanks for taking the time to post pics of your examples.

All OP's, when necessary, should be like that.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:25:29 PM EST
I bought a DG switch. I do not regret it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:32:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 12:32:38 PM EST by Rifleguy81]


TLR1 with momentary and click switch with weak thumb.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:34:52 PM EST
What do you mean you people?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:40:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 12:42:18 PM EST by GunnyG]
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SF's TG-11 switch
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:05:25 PM EST
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That's pretty cool. Can you efficiently control when you want to have it on or off and not have a negligent light discharge?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:06:05 PM EST
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What do you mean you people?
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What do you mean you people?
Originally Posted By Rifleguy81:
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/thesolanum/other%20misc/you_people.jpg

TLR1 with momentary and click switch with weak thumb.
Hahahaha. I knew AFRCOM would deliver
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:22:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 1:28:34 PM EST by Halberdier]
Laser sights used to have on/off switches or funny cords running to the trigger area, until Crimson Trace entered the field and got us all to love their integrated, passive activation switches. They've now done the same for white lights and I can't see using anything else.







ETA: I just realized the above pic from Natchez is completely screwed up. This is where the actual light beam is placed.






Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:29:11 PM EST
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Laser sights used to have on/off switches or funny cords running to the trigger area, until Crimson Trace entered the field and got us all to love their integrated, passive activation switches. They've now done the same for white lights and I can't see using anything else.


http://www.natchezss.com/images/products/EJLTG746.jpg



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For $160 I feel that I should get something that has more than 100 lumens, and doesn't make my gun look like a hi-point.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:32:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 1:34:50 PM EST by RIA45ACP]
Support (left) Thumb with a Glock 19 with TLR1. I started out using my trigger finger before realizing that finger had a more important job.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:35:21 PM EST
Left thumb on the momentary switch.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:36:46 PM EST

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For one-handed use, I turn the light to constant on by pushing my right index finger down. I feel it works exactly as I'd like it to with either one or two hands.
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I currently do this with 2 and 1 handed shooting. I use the same motion as with a BAD lever; a vertical sweeping motion with a stiff, straightened right finger. I just never could properly use the thumb method, I have to reach so far forward my grip is all fucked up and awkward.

I'll probably go to a DG switch here soon, I've heard good stuff about them.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:38:45 PM EST
"you people"?

What do you mean... "YOU people"?

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:44:47 PM EST
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For $160 I feel that I should get something that has more than 100 lumens, and doesn't make my gun look like a hi-point.
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Originally Posted By Halberdier:
Laser sights used to have on/off switches or funny cords running to the trigger area, until Crimson Trace entered the field and got us all to love their integrated, passive activation switches. They've now done the same for white lights and I can't see using anything else.


http://www.natchezss.com/images/products/EJLTG746.jpg





For $160 I feel that I should get something that has more than 100 lumens, and doesn't make my gun look like a hi-point.



You see the OP's M&P above. Here's mine. Now tell me which one looks slick and which one looks like it has a strapped on dildo..

Btw, I don't think $130 is high for a 100% reliable light.





Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:52:17 PM EST
What do you mean "YOU People ?"
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:59:16 PM EST
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People that use a pistol mounted light
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:03:13 PM EST
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That's pretty cool. Can you efficiently control when you want to have it on or off and not have a negligent light discharge?
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Originally Posted By drewQ22:
That's pretty cool. Can you efficiently control when you want to have it on or off and not have a negligent light discharge?

I can (, at least so far )... This tape switch can't be activated by your strong-side hand.



The index finger's 2nd knuckle is where that switch is resting, on my weak-side hand. The weight of the pistol is almost enough to trigger the light, so it comes on with a very slight lift. As a safety, I straighten and align my LH index finger along the pistol from, without letting the pistol and my RH to sink.



And of course, if I need to use my left hand elsewhere, I can still manually turn on the switch.




Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:04:48 PM EST
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I can (, at least so far )... This tape switch can't be activated by your strong-side hand.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/photo.jpg

The index finger's 2nd knuckle is where that switch is resting, on my weak-side hand. The weight of the pistol is almost enough to trigger the light, so it comes on with a very slight lift. As a safety, I straighten and align my LH index finger along the pistol from, without letting the pistol and my RH to sink.
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Originally Posted By drewQ22:
That's pretty cool. Can you efficiently control when you want to have it on or off and not have a negligent light discharge?

I can (, at least so far )... This tape switch can't be activated by your strong-side hand.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/photo.jpg

The index finger's 2nd knuckle is where that switch is resting, on my weak-side hand. The weight of the pistol is almost enough to trigger the light, so it comes on with a very slight lift. As a safety, I straighten and align my LH index finger along the pistol from, without letting the pistol and my RH to sink.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/2.jpg

And of course, if I need to use my left hand elsewhere, I can still manually turn on the switch.




Cool. Thanks for the info.

What watch is that btw?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:08:11 PM EST
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http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/2.jpg

And of course, if I need to use my left hand elsewhere, I can still manually turn on the switch.


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Originally Posted By drewQ22:
That's pretty cool. Can you efficiently control when you want to have it on or off and not have a negligent light discharge?

I can (, at least so far )... This tape switch can't be activated by your strong-side hand.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/photo.jpg

The index finger's 2nd knuckle is where that switch is resting, on my weak-side hand. The weight of the pistol is almost enough to trigger the light, so it comes on with a very slight lift. As a safety, I straighten and align my LH index finger along the pistol from, without letting the pistol and my RH to sink.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc68/gunnyg_photos/Private/AR15/2.jpg

And of course, if I need to use my left hand elsewhere, I can still manually turn on the switch.




Cool. Thanks for the info.

What watch is that btw?

Just my old Seiko automatic (an SKX173 from 2004 or so, IIRC)
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:14:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Halberdier:



You see the OP's M&P above. Here's mine. Now tell me which one looks slick and which one looks like it has a strapped on dildo..

Btw, I don't think $130 is high for a 100% reliable light.


http://images.pixelpeeping.net/Halberdier/Firearms/M&P/DSC_0637b.jpg


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Originally Posted By Halberdier:
Laser sights used to have on/off switches or funny cords running to the trigger area, until Crimson Trace entered the field and got us all to love their integrated, passive activation switches. They've now done the same for white lights and I can't see using anything else.


http://www.natchezss.com/images/products/EJLTG746.jpg





For $160 I feel that I should get something that has more than 100 lumens, and doesn't make my gun look like a hi-point.



You see the OP's M&P above. Here's mine. Now tell me which one looks slick and which one looks like it has a strapped on dildo..

Btw, I don't think $130 is high for a 100% reliable light.


http://images.pixelpeeping.net/Halberdier/Firearms/M&P/DSC_0637b.jpg




I have to admit, that M&P does look pretty slick with that light on there. It just seems to fit.
It would add almost no bulk to an IWB holster.

What's the beam like with such a small bezel? Decent throw and spill?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:26:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hurricane_Fury:


I have to admit, that M&P does look pretty slick with that light on there. It just seems to fit.
It would add almost no bulk to an IWB holster.

What's the beam like with such a small bezel? Decent throw and spill?
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Originally Posted By Hurricane_Fury:
Originally Posted By Halberdier:
Laser sights used to have on/off switches or funny cords running to the trigger area, until Crimson Trace entered the field and got us all to love their integrated, passive activation switches. They've now done the same for white lights and I can't see using anything else.


http://www.natchezss.com/images/products/EJLTG746.jpg





For $160 I feel that I should get something that has more than 100 lumens, and doesn't make my gun look like a hi-point.



You see the OP's M&P above. Here's mine. Now tell me which one looks slick and which one looks like it has a strapped on dildo..

Btw, I don't think $130 is high for a 100% reliable light.


http://images.pixelpeeping.net/Halberdier/Firearms/M&P/DSC_0637b.jpg




I have to admit, that M&P does look pretty slick with that light on there. It just seems to fit.
It would add almost no bulk to an IWB holster.

What's the beam like with such a small bezel? Decent throw and spill?


It's a soft, bright spotlight surrounded by a weaker wide flood. From 20' away you get a 4' hot center with a 12-14' flooded area overall. It's perfect for home defense because it lights up the entire room while focusing a bright spot on the threat. But outdoors the range is pretty limited, around 50-60' of useful light.

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 3:51:51 PM EST
Matches, I don't have a pistol light...

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:16:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2013 4:17:12 PM EST by SlowshooterJay]
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Matches, I don't have a pistol light...

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Save some money for lanterns.



edit: I use #1 with SF X300U, but I will be getting DG switch since it sucks to push it every time the way SF is set up. With Streamlight I just use my support hand thumb.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:38:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zardoz:
With a TLR-1 on a Glock 19, it's an easy reach with the left thumb to press down on the momentary rocker.
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 4:43:46 PM EST
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