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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:37:13 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't really care, as long as I can own page 2.

Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:37:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial] [#2]
Define “turn on trump”… ?

I like him. Voted for him twice. I won’t vote for him in the primaries and hope I don’t have to again in the general election for a number of logical reasons.

A) Voting for single term limited people is stupid.

B) We don’t need people who are going be fucking 80 in the Oval Office. Septuagenarians are bad enough.

C) He’ll generate a bigger democratic and independent turnout for Biden than Biden will.  Biden’s been a cringe-filled train wreck.  Don’t give his side motivation to show up and many won’t.

D) He seems to have a lot of drama and appears to lack the ability to filter himself in situations it would greatly benefit himself.  Sometimes just because you CAN say something and land a hit doesn’t mean you should… stacking up pyrrhic victories won’t win you a war in the long run.  Entertaining?  Hell yes.  But it can be quite self destructive.

I haven’t turned on trump… but he’s no longer the best choice for a bunch of reasons.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:39:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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The cultists call this being a “n_t”
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:39:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dance:
History is interesting.

Political figures come to power, have masses of people adulate them, then fall from power.  Many times, after a period of time people that supported that political figure turn on that political figure and revile them.

Will Trump be turned on and reviled?

It seems like he is losing support in different areas.

How long until the (R) and Arfcom turn on Trump?

If he has another failed bid for reelection?
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Biden is your Saviour?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:40:02 AM EDT
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I think the media has already ensured that people without direct knowledge of the time will have a much different opinion of the man and the time than the people who were here. The media will continue to attack him long after his death.

Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:41:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Probably until your next thread asking questions to answers you already know.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:42:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.
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There will always be drama around any Republican that comes to power. Look at the lengths they've gone to attack Trump. The worst thing they have is an illegal recording made in a locker room of him making a vulgar comment and some mean tweets. The level of hate for the man from those here and the media betrays their bigotry.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:44:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By speedball:
Who knows - we all were in favor of GWB until we all hated him the patriot act
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Fixed.

With trump it was the attacks on the RKBA, deciding that Hillary had been through enough, increasing deficit spending every year he was in office, filling the swamp, shitting on those guys In Kansas, pardoning felon democrats, and ushering in a level of socialism we haven’t seen since FDR.

He’s still leagues better than Biden. But that’s not exactly a high bar.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:44:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By d16man:They will NEVER stop coming after him.
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They will NEVER stop coming after REPUBLICANS.

The media has always been liberal and abused Republican candidates in my +40 years of working in radio and television.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:44:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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Where I landed.

I lost a lot of respect with the way he handled the Jan 6th shit. He should have pardoned everyone involved
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 9:53:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:


They will NEVER stop coming after REPUBLICANS.

The media has always been liberal and abused Republican candidates in my +40 years of working in radio and television.
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So… uh… don’t give them a target rich candidate they’ll have been intently focused on for almost 10 years already.  Fact is, justly or not, the guy was impeached TWICE in a single term.  And then petty high profile lawsuits, and raids, and arrests, and there’s still two more years they’ll be scheming against him.  Fair or not, I don’t think he can win in this current game so I’ll vote for someone else in the primary.

And if people think that someone like me who voted Trump twice (and would do so a 3rd time, if needed) makes them a never_trumper… then they’re as retarded as the left claims trump supporters are.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:03:00 AM EDT
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No candidate is going to get you all of what you want. The Constitution was designed with checks and balances.
We will always be voting for the least worst. Hope we get more like Trump and lots fewer of pedo joe/oblunder fascists.
At least Trump got some good stuff done even with rino's and dems doing all they could to sabotage them.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:04:36 AM EDT
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And the opposite is also true.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect

The bandwagon effect is the term used to describe the tendency for people to adopt certain behaviors, styles, or attitudes simply because others are doing so.[1]

More specifically, it is a cognitive bias by which public opinion or behaviours can alter due to particular actions and beliefs rallying amongst the public.[2] It is a psychological phenomenon whereby the rate of uptake of beliefs, ideas, fads and trends increases with respect to the proportion of others who have already done so.[3] As more people come to believe in something, others also "hop on the bandwagon" regardless of the underlying evidence.

Following the actions or beliefs of others can occur because individuals prefer to conform, or because individuals derive information from others. Much of the influence of the bandwagon effect comes from the desire to 'fit in' with peers; by making similar selections as other people, this is seen as a way to gain access to a particular social group.[4] An example of this is fashion trends wherein the increasing popularity of a certain garment or style encourages more people to "get on the bandwagon."[5]



AKA the Trump Train Effect.



And the opposite is also true.


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Oh wow. You posted that thinking it was only in the other direction...?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:09:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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This is pretty much where I’m at.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:09:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dsteelman:



Agreed , at least 90% of R s in congress loathe him
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To be fair, they hate us too.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:12:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:


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Oh wow. You posted that thinking it was only in the other direction...?
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No. I posted that because weak minded people jump on - and off- bandwagons

Doesn't matter whether we're talking about Trump, Subarus, or Michelle Trachtenbergs ass.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:13:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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Unless it’s a McCain or Romney type, it won’t matter who runs. Anyone that fights the left will be treated the same.

If you don’t believe me, take a look at the current Martha’s Vineyard situation. DeSantis sends a few Hispanics up there, and the left are screaming for him and Abbott to be charged with a thousand different things. Now he’s being sued by one of the people he sent up there , which I’m sure is totally organic and not influenced at all, right?

Anyone that resists the left will be treated exactly as Trump has been. The only difference is he’s nuts enough to keep fighting back.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:14:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He single-handedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else, that more supports the constitutional rights.
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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:15:15 AM EDT
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The immense focused hate on Trump makes my political decision making easy. He is definitely the right tool for the task at hand. Anyone else will either:

1. Back off on the MAGA initiative (we go back to sleep and the swamp keeps swampin').

or

2. Be ground to dust under the weight of the establishment.

We can go back to rainbow and skittles politicians after D.C. has been brought to heel.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:17:52 AM EDT
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RNC has never been pro-Trump, they actively tried to deny him the candidacy but populism said FU to them.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:19:51 AM EDT
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More TDS. 😂
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:21:19 AM EDT
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Looking back over the past few decades, is there a national level democrat that the democrats "turned on"?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:21:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dhmjr40:



Can't argue with any of this.  The left is really praying he does run though.  That's all they have.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.



Can't argue with any of this.  The left is really praying he does run though.  That's all they have.

Satan doesn't pray, he preys.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:23:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Looking back over the past few decades, is there a national level democrat that the democrats "turned on"?
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They don’t have to because they simply primary outliers out.  They didn’t feel the Bern, did they?
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:23:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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Same.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:24:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dance:
History is interesting.

Political figures come to power, have masses of people adulate them, then fall from power.  Many times, after a period of time people that supported that political figure turn on that political figure and revile them.

Will Trump be turned on and reviled?

It seems like he is losing support in different areas.

How long until the (R) and Arfcom turn on Trump?

If he has another failed bid for reelection?
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He had his chance......he did some great things, and some not great things. The guys ego is his biggest issue.....and he's old.  He needs to just fade away and do his own thing, but he can't....he's addicted to his own ego, and the media attention.

Enough with these 70+ year old guys in office.  

Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:24:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Looking back over the past few decades, is there a national level democrat that the democrats "turned on"?
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Bernie.

He would have won the 2016 nomination but it was Her turn, so the DNC rigged the last half of the primary to make sure She won.  Bernie got fucked. It was hilarious.

I think he probably would have beat trump because he was more popular than Hill-dog on the left with generally MUCH lower disapproval ratings from everyone.  Hillary being uniquely hatable is and ripe for condemnation is why she lost; trump was the *perfect* candidate to skewer her.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:30:16 AM EDT
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Would be fun if the Epstein names were 'leaked' right as Trump was throwing his name into the hat for the POTUS run.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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That is where I am at.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:35:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsg68:


They don’t have to because they simply primary outliers out.  They didn’t feel the Bern, did they?
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Originally Posted By tsg68:
Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Looking back over the past few decades, is there a national level democrat that the democrats "turned on"?


They don’t have to because they simply primary outliers out.  They didn’t feel the Bern, did they?


The democrat party still supports him 100%. They just don't elect him president.

Republicans sperg out and destroy each other.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:38:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ZMV:
I was done with him when he started repeating Q-tard nonsense.

The world would be a better place if all the Q-tards disappeared.
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Trust the plan.  All will be revealed.  They have the documents.  They’re just waiting for the right time.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:39:17 AM EDT
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If he wins a primary, ill vote for him
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:44:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Millennial:

So… uh… don’t give them a target rich candidate they’ll have been intently focused on for almost 10 years already.  Fact is, justly or not, the guy was impeached TWICE in a single term.  And then petty high profile lawsuits, and raids, and arrests, and there’s still two more years they’ll be scheming against him.  Fair or not, I don’t think he can win in this current game so I’ll vote for someone else in the primary.

And if people think that someone like me who voted Trump twice (and would do so a 3rd time, if needed) makes them a never_trumper… then they’re as retarded as the left claims trump supporters are.
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Originally Posted By Paul:


They will NEVER stop coming after REPUBLICANS.

The media has always been liberal and abused Republican candidates in my +40 years of working in radio and television.

So… uh… don’t give them a target rich candidate they’ll have been intently focused on for almost 10 years already.  Fact is, justly or not, the guy was impeached TWICE in a single term.  And then petty high profile lawsuits, and raids, and arrests, and there’s still two more years they’ll be scheming against him.  Fair or not, I don’t think he can win in this current game so I’ll vote for someone else in the primary.

And if people think that someone like me who voted Trump twice (and would do so a 3rd time, if needed) makes them a never_trumper… then they’re as retarded as the left claims trump supporters are.


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Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:49:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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This is basically where I'm at. I believe DeSantis can accomplish what Trump did without the baggage. What is bad is the fact democrats hung the baggage on him, but he let them. I like the man's fight but some fights aren't worth picking, and he picked them all no matter how small.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:58:20 AM EDT
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trumps going no where fellas
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And then democrats get four more years in the White House, and a big bump in their chances to hold both chambers of congress as well.

Link Posted: 9/22/2022 10:59:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Millennial:
Define “turn on trump”… ?

I like him. Voted for him twice. I won’t vote for him in the primaries and hope I don’t have to again in the general election for a number of logical reasons.

A) Voting for single term limited people is stupid.

B) We don’t need people who are going be fucking 80 in the Oval Office. Septuagenarians are bad enough.

C) He’ll generate a bigger democratic and independent turnout for Biden than Biden will.  Biden’s been a cringe-filled train wreck surpassed.  Don’t give his side motivation to show up as many won’t.

D) He seems to have a lot of drama and appears to lack the ability to filter himself in situations it would greatly benefit himself.  Sometimes just because you CAN say something and land a hit doesn’t mean you should… stacking up pyrrhic victories won’t win you a war in the long run.  Entertaining?  Hell yes.  But it can be quite self destructive.

I haven’t turned on trump… but he’s no longer the best choice for a bunch of reasons.
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This. But according to GD this makes you a "neva-trumper"
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:01:34 AM EDT
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He's losing support because he is a selfish loudmouth liberal who doesn't support gun rights.

He wanted people to fight for him on Jan 6 but he couldn't pardon them. Oh wait he was busy pardoning rappers.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:02:08 AM EDT
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

Even with all the shit they are throwing at Trump he is still ahead in many polls for 2024.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:02:14 AM EDT
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And then democrats get four more years in the White House, and a big bump in their chances to hold both chambers of congress as well.

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Originally Posted By 69cutlass:
trumps going no where fellas
better off getting your mind right and accept he will be the 2024 nominee


And then democrats get four more years in the White House, and a big bump in their chances to hold both chambers of congress as well.


It’s all worth it for a shot at four more years of trolling and social media drama.
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Originally Posted By Snozberry:


Where you been?

Half of arfcom is already trying to revise history over trump. They fixate on the negatives like bumpstocks which never got signed into law and forget how he killed two anti-gun obama EOs almost immediately on taking office. I have people convinced he was impeached, while even wiki says he was acquitted.

There was a reason why oil was cheap and our advesaries were less likely to pull bullshit. He had his flaws- namely the people he thought he could trust -but was lightyears better than peeps here make him out to be.
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Originally Posted By Snozberry:
Originally Posted By Dance:
History is interesting.

Political figures come to power, have masses of people adulate them, then fall from power.  Many times, after a period of time people that supported that political figure turn on that political figure and revile them.

Will Trump be turned on and reviled?

It seems like he is losing support in different areas.

How long until the (R) and Arfcom turn on Trump?

If he has another failed bid for reelection?


Where you been?

Half of arfcom is already trying to revise history over trump. They fixate on the negatives like bumpstocks which never got signed into law and forget how he killed two anti-gun obama EOs almost immediately on taking office. I have people convinced he was impeached, while even wiki says he was acquitted.

There was a reason why oil was cheap and our advesaries were less likely to pull bullshit. He had his flaws- namely the people he thought he could trust -but was lightyears better than peeps here make him out to be.

He was impeached. You just don't know what that means.
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He was impeached. You just don't know what that means.
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Peachmints without conviction are worthless. Just like ham sammich indictments.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:04:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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Very well said. You saved me from typing just about the same thing.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:05:09 AM EDT
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The Left doesn't want him to go away. Their life would be meaningless without him.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:07:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6172crew:
If he was a democrat they left would stand with him or at least shut their pie holes in public.  We eat our own, even if we agree with the guy 90% of the time.  I miss having a feeling someone was in my corner most of the time.
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We deserve the country we get.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:10:11 AM EDT
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Trump?  I love that unlovable bastard because he drives the left insane.  Rabidly insane.  Also because he drives the center insane.  The man is flawed,  granted, he is man, but he's cleaner than any politician to date.   Do you think any politician could withstand the scrutiny this man has withstood?

He's not perfect but he is better than a thousand of what we currently have.  


Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:11:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
What's your definition of "turning on him"? Not gargling his balls? Or legit hating him?

Would vote for him if he ran. But he has faults, the Trump nut huggers need to come to terms with that.
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Correct.  Orange Man did quite a few good things (tax cuts and Gorsuch), and quite a few statist and damaging things.  Supporting the outrageous spending and scamdemic $$$ printing while bad-mouthing Thomas Massie (probably the best rep in the House) for not going along with it was stupid and unforgiveable. It showed what a hack Orange Man is.  I still voted for him as he was still the lesser of the 2 statists and he likes the country more than FJB. I hope to God that he doesn't run again.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:12:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:


No. I posted that because weak minded people jump on - and off- bandwagons

Doesn't matter whether we're talking about Trump, Subarus, or Michelle Trachtenbergs ass.
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Originally Posted By Joe_Pennsy:
Originally Posted By macman37:


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Oh wow. You posted that thinking it was only in the other direction...?


No. I posted that because weak minded people jump on - and off- bandwagons

Doesn't matter whether we're talking about Trump, Subarus, or Michelle Trachtenbergs ass.


ehhh, good save.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:15:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seatbelts:


Where I landed.

I lost a lot of respect with the way he handled the Jan 6th shit. He should have pardoned everyone involved
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Originally Posted By Seatbelts:
Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.


Where I landed.

I lost a lot of respect with the way he handled the Jan 6th shit. He should have pardoned everyone involved


How many days was it between Jan 6th and the day he left office? How many innocent people were arrested for him to pardon?

It was about all of 2 weeks and the Stasi waited until after he was out of office to start arresting grandmothers.

Like I said you fuckers deserve the country you get.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:16:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Won't happen, but I suspect plenty of people are ending up where I am.

Appreciate what he did in stopping Hillary and setting up the SCOTUS as a (mostly) effective check against the Dem's attempts to remake this country. Plus his success in putting American jobs and manufacturing back as a winning political issue. He singlehandedly forced the Dems to dump the Obama era 'manufacturing is never coming back' attitude.

Disappointed in his not doing more with the opportunities he had.

Tired of the drama and stupidity that seems to surround him.

I'll vote for him again in 2024 if it comes to it, but I'd really prefer someone else.
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I'm in the same boat.  Him saying shit like "if he lived in GA he'd vote for Abrams" doesn't sit well with me, but if he's on the ticket I'll vote for him.
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 11:16:40 AM EDT
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