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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:45:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FS7:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-rally-goers-say-space-force-can-prove-2020-election-fraud-1696715

There are many like it, but this one is theirs.
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Originally Posted By FS7:
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:


Holy shit, is that a real conspiracy theory the Q-tard brigade had?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-rally-goers-say-space-force-can-prove-2020-election-fraud-1696715

There are many like it, but this one is theirs.


space force had all cyber capabilities transferred to it from the other services.  it's much less crazy than just going along with the msm's propaganda- 'most secure election evar'
PWS
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:49:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.
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Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:56:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By macman37:


LOL You do not get to define the stakes here… good thing nobody called you out on “relentlessly boorish behavior”.

Man you guys can dish it out but not take it. We had 6+ years of Trump fans showing their asses and advocating we less-than-enthusiastic conservatives get banned from the site.… but a few months of “relentless boorish behavior” is wayyy too much.
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:


A year ago, DeSantis was more popular here than Trump by about a 3-1 margin.  He was a wildly successful governor, and there wasn't much bad anybody had to say about him.

Then the indictments started, which occupied 99% of the political media right about the time Desantis was announcing his presidential campaign.  The petty personal attacks from Trump against Desantis started, and the band wagon got rolling.

Like I said, it is emotional with the Trump supporters.  Issues and records of accomplishment matter not.

So I'll ask you again, if Trump happens to get re-elected, what does his Presidency look like?  What does it accomplish?  If you are supporting him, these should be simple questions to answer.

You don’t think it’s possible the relentless, boorish behavior of the DeSantis supporters had anything to do with his support faltering here?


LOL You do not get to define the stakes here… good thing nobody called you out on “relentlessly boorish behavior”.

Man you guys can dish it out but not take it. We had 6+ years of Trump fans showing their asses and advocating we less-than-enthusiastic conservatives get banned from the site.… but a few months of “relentless boorish behavior” is wayyy too much.

How many years of, "Sorry your girl lost, cuck!", did we listen to as a deflection for every liberal thing Trump did?

But his supporters are pure as the driven snow... It's those nasty wasty DeSantis supporters using hate facts!
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:56:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

Trump Campaign Manager And Senior Advisor Testify Trump Lost 2020 Election


Donald Trump's Lawyer Alina Habba Admits Trump Lost 2020 Election
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:06:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-3ymVJwTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6BZ3uOOhQ
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-3ymVJwTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6BZ3uOOhQ


So you posted videos you didn't even watch?

Since there's not refutation in them.

Do you compile your own resources for online "debate"?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:08:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.
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You mean other than his lawyers, nearly the entirety of his administration, 2020 and 2024 campaign managers, and his own daughter?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:09:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


You mean other than his lawyers, nearly the entirety of his administration, 2020 and 2024 campaign managers, and his own daughter?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.


You mean other than his lawyers, nearly the entirety of his administration, 2020 and 2024 campaign managers, and his own daughter?


Well that's the Maoist position.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:11:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Well that's the Maoist position.
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Why do you guys always take a conversation on facts and issues and let it devolve into calling people a communist when you can’t refute a statement?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:13:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Why do you guys always take a conversation on facts and issues and let it devolve into calling people a communist when you can’t refute a statement?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Well that's the Maoist position.


Why do you guys always take a conversation on facts and issues and let it devolve into calling people a communist when you can’t refute a statement?


Because you are dishonest.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:14:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Because you are dishonest.
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Then point it out for the crowd, what I said that isn’t true.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:15:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Then point it out for the crowd, what I said that isn’t true.

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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Because you are dishonest.


Then point it out for the crowd, what I said that isn’t true.



You've already done it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:18:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


You've already done it.
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So you can’t refute it.

And you call me dishonest while still supporting the man on third wife, who has called his supporters fools for actually expecting him to try to accomplish campaign promises. Whose legal team has admitted no reasonable person would have ever believed their claims about the 2020 election.

Got it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:18:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


You've already done it.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Because you are dishonest.


Then point it out for the crowd, what I said that isn’t true.



You've already done it.


STYMIED AGAIN BY THE IMPENETRABLE “no, u” DEFENSE
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:20:41 PM EST
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I'm so sad now. Maoists used coercion to  elicit some sound bites and it's not convincing me.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:22:07 PM EST
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Tactics for dealing with Trump: Ignore Trump. He feeds off controversy. Literally pretend like he doesnt exist and push your message. When asked about Trump take the high road-- he's a good guy but not the man for the job. When asked about his insults to you, you say hes a good guy trying to do whatever he can to win.

Desantis has other problems, but trying to play on t$ meme turf was a biggly mistake.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:22:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
I'm so sad now. Maoists used coercion and it's not convincing me.
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And yet, you continue to believe people who have admitted they lied to you.

Why?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:25:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


And yet, you continue to believe people who have admitted they lied to you.

Why?
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
I'm so sad now. Maoists used coercion and it's not convincing me.


And yet, you continue to believe people who have admitted they lied to you.

Why?


Who?

I always believe people who are threatened/punished to give me the response I want to hear.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:30:18 PM EST
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Our own N_T's doing the work the left can't get around too and are no better than...
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:39:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Who?

I always believe people who are threatened/punished to give me the response I want to hear.
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You still believe Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani were telling the truth?

Ya know what a great defense to a defamation suit would be?  How aboutthe actual evidence they claimed they had.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:42:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


You still believe Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani were telling the truth?

Ya know what a great defense to a defamation suit would be?  How aboutthe actual evidence they claimed they had.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Who?

I always believe people who are threatened/punished to give me the response I want to hear.


You still believe Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani were telling the truth?

Ya know what a great defense to a defamation suit would be?  How aboutthe actual evidence they claimed they had.


That Trump "lost" due to fraud?

Of course, who doesn't?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:43:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


So you posted videos you didn't even watch?

Since there's not refutation in them.

Do you compile your own resources for online "debate"?
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-3ymVJwTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6BZ3uOOhQ


So you posted videos you didn't even watch?

Since there's not refutation in them.

Do you compile your own resources for online "debate"?



They all said, in pretty plain English, he lost and it was not stolen.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:43:11 PM EST
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No one can refute it was due to fraud.
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Lol

He fucking lost dude. To an old pedo.



Anything else is an excuse and a bad one.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:45:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:



Lol

He fucking lost dude.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.



Lol

He fucking lost dude.


Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:46:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:



They all said, in pretty plain English, he lost and it was not stolen.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-3ymVJwTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6BZ3uOOhQ


So you posted videos you didn't even watch?

Since there's not refutation in them.

Do you compile your own resources for online "debate"?



They all said, in pretty plain English, he lost and it was not stolen.



Oh is that what you wanted to hear?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:48:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.
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Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.



Lol

He fucking lost dude.


Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.


So he’ll toooootally win this time and then rip-and-tear it all apart and fix it ALL right?

Riiiiiiight.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:49:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


That Trump "lost" due to fraud?

Of course, who doesn't?
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So you call me dishonest, for posting facts you can’t dispute.

Yet you then continue to defend and believe people who openly lied to you, and have admitted that they lied to you.

For anybody paying attention, this is why Desantis is losing.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:49:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:



Oh is that what you wanted to hear?
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

My favorite part was when it went from, "Mexico is going to pay for the wall!", and people seriously believing it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Why-Would-Mexico-Agree-to-Pay-for-Trump-s-Wall-/5-1824381/

To a GoFundMe to pay for it 2 years later with people here actually dumb enough to send money: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Build-the-wall-gofundme-now-with-link/5-2176579/

To Steve Bannon being jailed for embezzling wall funds 2 years after that: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Breaking-Steve-Bannon-arrested/5-2360582/

And now Trump calling anyone who seriously thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall idiots.



Trump presidency in a nutshell.  But hey, he's got a great personality.  Super electable.




This.

And no one can refute that he lost to a doddering old pedo who didn't even campaign.


No one can refute it was due to fraud.

No one except Trump's own campaign team heads and legal representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-3ymVJwTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6BZ3uOOhQ


So you posted videos you didn't even watch?

Since there's not refutation in them.

Do you compile your own resources for online "debate"?



They all said, in pretty plain English, he lost and it was not stolen.



Oh is that what you wanted to hear?

If it was stolen, how much Stop The Steal money did he spend proving it?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:49:54 PM EST
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Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.
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An excuse and a bad one.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:51:37 PM EST
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So he’ll toooootally win this time and then rip-and-tear it all apart and fix it ALL right?

Riiiiiiight.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By killstick_engaged:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No one can refute it was due to fraud.



Lol

He fucking lost dude.


Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.


So he’ll toooootally win this time and then rip-and-tear it all apart and fix it ALL right?

Riiiiiiight.


I'm not that optimistic.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:53:31 PM EST
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Should have waited til 2028
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Lol

He fucking lost dude. To an old pedo.



Anything else is an excuse and a bad one.
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What parish are you from?
Everyone in La I talked to voted otherwise.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 9:56:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


So you call me dishonest, for posting facts you can’t dispute.

Yet you then continue to defend and believe people who openly lied to you, and have admitted that they lied to you.

For anybody paying attention, this is why Desantis is losing.
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


That Trump "lost" due to fraud?

Of course, who doesn't?


So you call me dishonest, for posting facts you can’t dispute.

Yet you then continue to defend and believe people who openly lied to you, and have admitted that they lied to you.

For anybody paying attention, this is why Desantis is losing.


All it took was threats/lawfare to get some sound bites that kinda say what you wanted to hear.


If there was no fraud in the election.

Why did they have to plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6 to prevent Congress from discussing the validity of the election?

Why did they lie about so much that happened that day too?
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He's not a Democrat.

Underscore
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He will beg Trump for forgiveness and maybe Trump will pick him as his VP


Ron isn't going to kiss the ring of Democrat Don.



He's not a Democrat.

Underscore


He is and "underscore" doesn't make your case.

I can make mine. I'll start with the guy shows no evidence that he read or respects the Constitution. He's not a fan of the 2nd. He doesn't like ARs or cans. He was supportive of the legislation that Scott (not DeSantis) signed raising the age in FL to 21 ("some animals are more equal than others").

From there we can go to him not being a fan of the 4th as he praised the FL Red Flag law (again, signed by Scott - not DeSantis). Don't forget his often cited here quote of "take the guns first - due process later." Finally, his recent push for national "stop and frisk."

Signing massive spending bills led to the massive inflation that we have (don't fret - Congress, FJB and the dumb mass voters get credit, too).  He bad-mouthed Thomas Massie and the Freedom Caucus for being against the spending an correctly warning that it would lead to significant inflation.

I can keep going, but the above is ample. All of the aforementioned shit isn't something a conservative or libertarian would do. Trump sycophants need to come to terms with that, and that we can do better. While it's true that he wasn't as bad as FHRC, and did a few good things, that's not saying much and it's no reason to settle on a not as bad D. I know, "but he loves me."
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An excuse and a bad one.

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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Sure, because of fraud and a corrupt government.




An excuse and a bad one.


It was simple to have a fair election.

All you had to do was leave the election procedures in place the way they were. No mail-in ballots or drop boxes.

And prevent election interference by not covering up for the Biden crime family and Hunter's laptop.

That would have stopped the fraud or limited it enough to give the election legitimacy.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:13:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


All it took was threats/lawfare to get some sound bites that kinda say what you wanted to hear.

If there was no fraud in the election.

Why did they have to plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6 to prevent Congress from discussing the validity of the election?

Why did they lie about so much that happened that day too?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


That Trump "lost" due to fraud?

Of course, who doesn't?


So you call me dishonest, for posting facts you can’t dispute.

Yet you then continue to defend and believe people who openly lied to you, and have admitted that they lied to you.

For anybody paying attention, this is why Desantis is losing.


All it took was threats/lawfare to get some sound bites that kinda say what you wanted to hear.

If there was no fraud in the election.

Why did they have to plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6 to prevent Congress from discussing the validity of the election?

Why did they lie about so much that happened that day too?

You're arguing something no one has claimed. There is fraud in every election. DeSantis's government prosecuted cases of it in fact.

The issue is, did it cost him the election. To date there hasn't been a single bit of compelling evidence it did, and in fact lots of official testimony made under oath, that it didn't.

Considering that Trump only won his 2016 election by 107,000 votes across Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, please explain why, after 4 years of "making heads explode", that it's unreasonable to think Trump's own actions and lack of popularity/likability cost him the 2020 election.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:14:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


All it took was threats/lawfare to get some sound bites that kinda say what you wanted to hear.


If there was no fraud in the election.

Why did they have to plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6 to prevent Congress from discussing the validity of the election?

Why did they lie about so much that happened that day too?
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No deflections. Answer the questions.

Were Guilianni and Powell telling the truth?  And if so, why did they not submit the evidence they claimed they had in their own defense?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:14:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By iveseenalittleontv:


space force had all cyber capabilities transferred to it from the other services.  it's much less crazy than just going along with the msm's propaganda- 'most secure election evar'
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Of course you would believe this.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:19:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


No. Answer my questions.

Were Guilianni and Powell telling the truth?  And if so, why did they not submit the evidence they claimed they had in their own defense?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


All it took was threats/lawfare to get some sound bites that kinda say what you wanted to hear.


If there was no fraud in the election.

Why did they have to plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6 to prevent Congress from discussing the validity of the election?

Why did they lie about so much that happened that day too?


No. Answer my questions.

Were Guilianni and Powell telling the truth?  And if so, why did they not submit the evidence they claimed they had in their own defense?


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.

So why did they plant pipe bombs and incite a riot, then lie and cover up what happened on J6?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:20:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.
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No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.

Anybody who still doesn’t see this, was the target audience.



Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:23:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.

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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.


No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.



Well if you want to be misled by psyops/disinfo.


Have you figured out a way to explain J6 yet?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:25:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.



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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.


No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.




It was an attempt to spark an investigation into election fraud while the states were actively certifying the election.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:26:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Well if you want to be misled by psyops/disinfo.


Have you figured out a way to explain J6 yet?
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Baby steps.

You recognize the whole Guilianni/Sidney Powell grift was nothing more than a ruse designed to separate people (well meaning, patriotic individuals mind you) from their hard earned money, right?  Get there, then we can talk about Jan 6.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:28:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Baby steps.

You recognize the whole Guilianni/Sidney Powell grift was nothing more than a ruse designed to separate people (well meaning, patriotic individuals mind you) from their hard earned money, right?  Get there, then we can talk about Jan 6.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Well if you want to be misled by psyops/disinfo.


Have you figured out a way to explain J6 yet?


Baby steps.

You recognize the whole Guilianni/Sidney Powell grift was nothing more than a ruse designed to separate people (well meaning, patriotic individuals mind you) from their hard earned money, right?  Get there, then we can talk about Jan 6.


Nope, won't agree to lies

I'll agree they got misled by deep state disinformation on some claims.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:29:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Nope, won't agree to lies

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So you believe they were telling the truth. Got it.

Do you see the corner you painted yourself in, when you called me dishonest?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:30:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Well if you want to be misled by psyops/disinfo.


Have you figured out a way to explain J6 yet?
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:
Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.


No, not even close.

It was a grift to take advantage of the left side of the bell curve. Nothing more.



Well if you want to be misled by psyops/disinfo.


Have you figured out a way to explain J6 yet?

Ironic...

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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:30:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


So you believe they were telling the truth. Got it.

Do you see the corner you painted yourself in, when you called me dishonest?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Nope, won't agree to lies



So you believe they were telling the truth. Got it.

Do you see the corner you painted yourself in, when you called me dishonest?


They were telling the truth, when they said the election was stolen. They were telling the truth about some claims.

They were also victims of disinformation.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:33:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


They were telling the truth, when they said the election was stolen. They were telling the truth about some claims.

They were also victims of disinformation.

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So now just “some claims” were true.

Keep going man. You can get there.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:34:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Don't know, don't care. They aren't the be all end all to the election fraud claims.

I'm sure some of the claims they went down the rabbit hole on were disinformation, so people like you could use it to dismiss the truth.
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Supposedly Powell was advised by that dingbat Torre and Millie Weaver,   some pretty fringe people .
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:35:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


So now just “some claims” were true.

Keep going man. You can get there.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


They were telling the truth, when they said the election was stolen. They were telling the truth about some claims.

They were also victims of disinformation.



So now just “some claims” were true.

Keep going man. You can get there.


Why did the deep state plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6?

Why did the J6 committee lie to everyone? Why did they try to cover up the truth of J6?

Come on you can get there.


Why do you support disinformation campaigns to obfuscate the truth?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:36:18 PM EST
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So now just “some claims” were true.

Keep going man. You can get there.
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