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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:56:30 AM EST
@bluefalcon from The Chopping Block tests Hornady 6.5 Grendel 123gr SST ammunition.
 Hornady 123gr SST 6.5 Grendel Gel Test Check out our other videos with bluefalcon on our YouTube channel. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:59:15 AM EST
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Boom! There you go, weirdos. Happy now?
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:09:03 AM EST
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Boom! There you go, weirdos. Happy now? |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:22:48 AM EST
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Thank you for posting this.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:29:13 AM EST
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is that one of those $399 uppers from Wolf?
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:56:49 AM EST
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Yes, it is.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 12:01:15 PM EST
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is that one of those $399 uppers from Wolf? it's NOT for sale. 
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Posted: 8/8/2017 12:32:22 PM EST
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Looks like it to me. I own one, it's NOT for sale. I need to pick one up |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 1:02:54 PM EST
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I've heard nothing bad about those. I need to pick one up Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like it to me. I own one, it's NOT for sale. I need to pick one up |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 1:39:47 PM EST
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The Wolf upper seems to be solid. It shoots nice groups and has been 100% since the first round.
BF, any chance of a gel test with 100 grain Wolf? The SST is what I would expect from a Hornady hunting round. Very adequate. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 1:58:17 PM EST
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These are photo's of 123gr sst in 6.5G. Out of a JP Rifles 24" barrel with matching bolt. I am not trying to suggest I am a top notch shooter, this was strapped into a Caldwell Lead Sled with a velcro strap. With 25lbs of weight in the tray. The groups I shot with wolf were CONSIDERABLY more open. No where near the accuracy of Hornady.
5 @100 yds 
5 @ 200 yds 
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Posted: 8/8/2017 1:59:30 PM EST
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal?
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:06:45 PM EST
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The Wolf upper seems to be solid. It shoots nice groups and has been 100% since the first round. BF, any chance of a gel test with 100 grain Wolf? The SST is what I would expect from a Hornady hunting round. Very adequate. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:20:29 PM EST
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Great test thanks.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:20:38 PM EST
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal? Didn't watch but I and @buck19delta can attest to is killing Deer dead. two shots, two deer full freezer. 
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:25:29 PM EST
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Am I the only one wondering
why is this "Pinned" As for the whole deer round yeah its a decent deer round but why would you want this for home defense unless you lived out in the middle of no where. home defense for me is 12 gauge or 300 Blk backed up by 45 ACP |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:26:56 PM EST
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Am I the only one wondering why is this "tacked" |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:27:25 PM EST
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal? |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:30:02 PM EST
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A little better than I expected from a 16 in barrel. 6.5 is kinda slow. It shines because it is so efficient. This round should still be supersonic at 900 to 1000 yards. Yup. Doesn't need to be screaming right out the gate because it's an endurance runner or a round, no a sprinter. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:57:25 PM EST
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We're never happy. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 3:06:19 PM EST
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Didn't watch but I and @buck19delta can attest to is killing Deer dead. two shots, two deer full freezer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal? |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 4:18:26 PM EST
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Nice video. Id like to see a 120g federal fusion test as well.
I have heard so many good things about this ammo, it's just too bad neither of my 6.5 grendel rifles like the Hornady factory sst rounds. I get pierced and cratered primers. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 4:26:40 PM EST
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Could you test the cheap, lighter Wolf load you mentioned as a comparison?
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Posted: 8/8/2017 5:52:27 PM EST
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in
flesh and blood at just over 100 yards. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. 
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Posted: 8/8/2017 5:57:24 PM EST
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Could you test the cheap, lighter Wolf load you mentioned as a comparison? Wolf's 100 grain FMJ-BT bullet design was based on the 5.45x39mm 7N6 military load, it has a high BC, is very long for its weight and the nose has a very large air cavity in it. The air cavity pushes the weight to the rear of the bullet allowing for a rapid yaw cycle. The end result is much improved terminal performance compared to a traditional non-fragmenting FMJ. Due to the rapid yaw cycle it is not so velocity dependent as designs which rely on fragmentation. I know Bill Alexander and the Barnaul engineers worked hard on this projectile design and the end result is excellent. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 6:25:57 PM EST
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in flesh and blood. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38268/IMG_1018-274250.jpg 
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Posted: 8/8/2017 6:42:03 PM EST
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What was the range of that? |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 7:58:23 PM EST
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in flesh and blood at just over 100 yards. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38268/IMG_1018-274250.jpg |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 8:20:37 PM EST
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I'd love to see a 100gr Wolf test as well.
Neat video, as usual. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 8:30:20 PM EST
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal? As others have pointed out, it goes the distance well, at my elevation I'm supersonic to 1200 yards with the right load. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 9:29:15 PM EST
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In a 16" barrel that seems right. My 20" seems to get it up close to 2500, and My handloads for the 123gr class come in about the same. As others have pointed out, it goes the distance well, at my elevation I'm supersonic to 1200 yards with the right load. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That velocity seems a little paltry. Is that normal? As others have pointed out, it goes the distance well, at my elevation I'm supersonic to 1200 yards with the right load. Most of my 16" chronograph readings have averaged 2460fps with Hornady. 20" guns are normally 2520-2560fps with the same load. 18" are 2460-2490fps. Doesn't matter a whole lot though because of BC. An SBR Grendel with half the barrel length of a 20" 30-30/150gr RN still has more speed and energy at 400yds than the .30-30 does at 200yds. Within 200yds, the Grendel has all kinds of retained energy and speeds that would normally be from a longer-barreled rifle with more case capacity and faster mv, so looking at the mv alone is very deceptive. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 9:45:13 PM EST
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 Multi-Caliber Carbine Analysis - Terminal Effects of Barnes TSX (16" barrel) |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:51:28 PM EST
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Brassfetcher is the original no bullshit ballistic testing.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:25:02 PM EST
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That dog is very dead. Thanks for posting. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:33:04 PM EST
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Blue Falcon I can supply you with 100gr Wolf 6.5 ammo whenever you are ready.
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Posted: 8/9/2017 4:23:46 AM EST
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Blue Falcon I can supply you with 100gr Wolf 6.5 ammo whenever you are ready. 
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Posted: 8/9/2017 5:29:02 AM EST
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Awesome video as always. As a grendel owner and lover i would really love to see you test out the 100gr wolf offering considering its development background.
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Posted: 8/9/2017 6:03:55 AM EST
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Great work as always.
Let's see some Creedmoor action next. 
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Posted: 8/9/2017 6:34:59 AM EST
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Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting. I've been thinking of doing a 6.5 Grendel build someday.
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Posted: 8/9/2017 8:09:58 AM EST
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Blue Falcon I can supply you with 100gr Wolf 6.5 ammo whenever you are ready. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 9:01:16 AM EST
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16" barrels typically will spit a 123gr Hornady SST at 2435-2480fps, depending on the barrel and temp. Most of my 16" chronograph readings have averaged 2460fps with Hornady. 20" guns are normally 2520-2560fps with the same load. 18" are 2460-2490fps. Doesn't matter a whole lot though because of BC. An SBR Grendel with half the barrel length of a 20" 30-30/150gr RN still has more speed and energy at 400yds than the .30-30 does at 200yds. Within 200yds, the Grendel has all kinds of retained energy and speeds that would normally be from a longer-barreled rifle with more case capacity and faster mv, so looking at the mv alone is very deceptive. (everything I learned about reloading for 6.5g has been from your book, and I thankyou for that) |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 9:16:57 AM EST
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Lol. I know you can. Just gotta wait until the next time I meet up with that asshole who has the upper. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:01:30 AM EST
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in flesh and blood at just over 100 yards. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38268/IMG_1018-274250.jpg 
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:02:55 AM EST
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Lol. I know you can. Just gotta wait until the next time I meet up with that asshole who has the upper. I might be able to provide an upper. I've got a wolf barrel and empty upper sitting around doing nothing. In fact, I might be able to send a 12.5" upper as well for comparison. Interested? |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:04:40 AM EST
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in flesh and blood at just over 100 yards. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38268/IMG_1018-274250.jpg That dog just looks happy to be there. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:32:08 AM EST
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You shot the neighbor's dog to prove a point Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is an example of what the Hornady 123 grain SST load does in flesh and blood at just over 100 yards. This is excellent performance. It's well suited for hunting deer sized game and would work very well for personal protection if you are not paranoid about over penetration. It is after all, a rifle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/38268/IMG_1018-274250.jpg By the time he tracked it down, it had already turned back into the neighbors dog. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:37:23 AM EST
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@bluefalcon I might be able to provide an upper. I've got a wolf barrel and empty upper sitting around doing nothing. In fact, I might be able to send a 12.5" upper as well for comparison. Interested? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol. I know you can. Just gotta wait until the next time I meet up with that asshole who has the upper. I might be able to provide an upper. I've got a wolf barrel and empty upper sitting around doing nothing. In fact, I might be able to send a 12.5" upper as well for comparison. Interested? |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 11:47:37 AM EST
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Blue Falcon I can supply you with 100gr Wolf 6.5 ammo whenever you are ready. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 11:55:53 AM EST
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doooooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet I have an 18 inch upper I can loan as well. I just have to get back to in in VA. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 1:22:32 PM EST
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Wolf 100 grain FMJ-BT
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 
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Posted: 8/9/2017 5:19:55 PM EST
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Nice test/demo, showing the excellent performance of the Grendel and that load.
A couple comments. Replace body cavity for gel, and that's just lethal as hell. What brass catcher is that? I would like to have one of them. Thanks. |
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