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Posted: 6/16/2009 10:40:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 10:46:07 AM EST by A-nus]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7vwivR6cE




Looks a little rough around the edges but if this guy keep working on it, it could be awesome!!!!



more info http://www.weaponeer.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9614&PN=1
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:41:59 AM EST
I'll take two.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:42:03 AM EST
Something like that would be devastating at close range.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:42:04 AM EST
I can't get that to play.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:42:58 AM EST
These would be perfect for my motion sensing robotic turret perimeter around my house.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:43:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
I can't get that to play.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7vwivR6cE
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:44:47 AM EST
Didnt they do this with the USA-12, but magazine fed?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:46:07 AM EST
Finally! The answer to my squirrel problem!

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:46:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By Rattle_Snake:
Originally Posted By krpind:
I can't get that to play.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7vwivR6cE


Woah......S W E E T !!!!!!

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:46:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 10:50:08 AM EST by FMJshooter]
Would like to borrow that puppy for a day at the skeet range.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:47:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:48:48 AM EST
that's great. me want
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:48:59 AM EST
Very cool!

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:50:50 AM EST
Thats bad ass.....Do want!

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:58:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:58:53 AM EST
The question has always been, does Full Auto Trump DD like it does for SBR and AOW...

or...

Would DD trump full auto requirements (not likely)

or...

Do neither Full Auto or DD trump each other (most likely)

So, if you had that upper and paid a $200 tax and redistered it as a DD and you mounted it on a M-16 lower, then I think it would be legal! Doing it without paying the DD tax is risky!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:06:37 AM EST
from his youtube page:


I have designed and patents pending on this.. Its a beltfed 12 gauge upper receiver for a ar-15 or m16 lower receiver. It uses your lower receiver, so if you have a ar15 its a semi auto shotgun, however if you have a registered m16 lower or a drop in auto sear it becomes a full auto 12 gauge machine gun. This is a prototype model and all the bugs arent worked out quite yet. Most of the problems that I have encountered revolve around the shotgun sheels not being consistent enough to eject sometimes. However I will have it a Knob Creek machine gun shoot in april for everyone to see it work in person. If you have questions or would like more info on how to get one please E-mail me at DMproducts765@live.com thanks


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:10:00 AM EST
Sweet.

-X
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:11:17 AM EST
That would be awesome for the dove fields!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:13:25 AM EST
Freakin sweet!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:14:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:15:57 AM EST
I'd like to see this at a trap or skeet shoot!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:24:30 AM EST
Some US company made a few belt fed water cooled shotguns for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war to stop Iranian wave attacks.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:25:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 11:26:04 AM EST by Texkaw]

Looks like a Jam-O-matic to me.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:30:29 AM EST
Likely the upper will itself be declared a DD and possibly an MG, just as was done with the 8mm MG34-derived uppers.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:31:08 AM EST
Me Likey!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:33:04 AM EST
Hmmmmm.

I want.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:33:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Some US company made a few belt fed water cooled shotguns for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war to stop Iranian wave attacks.


What, I need a source thats new to me.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:34:46 AM EST
BAFTE is gonna be knockin on his door.

Hope he has a FFL for manufacturer.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:36:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 11:38:21 AM EST by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By junebug68:
Something like that would be devastating at close range.

Something like that would be a great riot control tool, loaded with bean-bags, batons, or taser shells...

The practicality of crew-served weapons is in keeping the enemy BACK, not letting them get to close range (where the MG crew becomes a target for multiple riflemen)....


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:38:26 AM EST
IBTATFSHDBHHADIIITHO

In Before The ATF Shoots His Dog, Burns His House, And Declares It Illegal In There Humble Opinion
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:42:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Some US company made a few belt fed water cooled shotguns for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war to stop Iranian wave attacks.




Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:53:58 AM EST
Yep, seen it at Knob Creek in the spring. I was talking with the kid at the table and the prototype 3 will be out soon.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:57:08 AM EST
I've always wondered why no one makes a shotgun on an ar platform, but seems like everyone is jumping on the band wagon a little late, like s&w and ruger.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:59:13 AM EST
That is way too cool..........and I want one!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:02:26 PM EST
Tag fer home.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:03:44 PM EST
damn thats nice!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:05:34 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:07:53 PM EST
Very cool.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:08:12 PM EST
Op, use the "flash" button instead of the media button and it will work better
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:10:30 PM EST
Awesome....Zombies in the wire!!!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:14:24 PM EST
I'd buy one, in semi or full auto.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:19:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By nchapa:
I've always wondered why no one makes a shotgun on an ar platform, but seems like everyone is jumping on the band wagon a little late, like s&w and ruger.


There's that Turkish .410.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:23:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Hmmmmm.

I want.


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:25:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 12:25:22 PM EST by innocent_bystander]
I wish I could remember more info about the beltfed shotguns built for Iraq. That was a long time ago. It might have been this guy.


The belt-fed shotgun is not a new idea. I developed one to fit either a Browning A-5 or Remington 1100 back in 1981. When I could generate no interest in it other than the British Government I went public with the information and sold plans on how to convert your own shotgun to belt-feed using common cloth bandoleers you can buy at Wal-Mart. I sold these plans for 17 years in The shotgun News until the market just fizzled out. It was pretty slick and added only 1/2 pound of weight to the regular shotgun. I statrted to develop a bull-pup stock configuration but just never got around to it.

Ryan Kephart
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:32:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Originally Posted By nchapa:
I've always wondered why no one makes a shotgun on an ar platform, but seems like everyone is jumping on the band wagon a little late, like s&w and ruger.


There's that Turkish .410.

Also the USAS-12 is kinda close.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAS-12
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:57:38 PM EST
Still a neat idea.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:00:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By A-nus:
from his youtube page:


I have designed and patents pending on this.. Its a beltfed 12gauge upper receiver for a ar-15 or m16 lower receiver. It uses yourlower receiver, so if you have a ar15 its a semi auto shotgun, howeverif you have a registered m16 lower or a drop in auto sear it becomes afull auto 12 gauge machine gun. This is a prototype model and all thebugs arent worked out quite yet. Most of the problems that I haveencountered revolve around the shotgun sheels not being consistentenough to eject sometimes. However I will have it a Knob Creek machinegun shoot in april for everyone to see it work in person. If you havequestions or would like more info on how to get one please E-mail me atDMproducts765@live.com thanks





Looked to ME like it was firing from the open bolt. If that is the case then it'll be declared an MG.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:02:33 PM EST
Looks like a Mini Mk-19!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:03:16 PM EST
Tag
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:04:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By A-nus:
from his youtube page:


I have designed and patents pending on this.. Its a beltfed 12gauge upper receiver for a ar-15 or m16 lower receiver. It uses yourlower receiver, so if you have a ar15 its a semi auto shotgun, howeverif you have a registered m16 lower or a drop in auto sear it becomes afull auto 12 gauge machine gun. This is a prototype model and all thebugs arent worked out quite yet. Most of the problems that I haveencountered revolve around the shotgun sheels not being consistentenough to eject sometimes. However I will have it a Knob Creek machinegun shoot in april for everyone to see it work in person. If you havequestions or would like more info on how to get one please E-mail me atDMproducts765@live.com thanks





Looked to ME like it was firing from the open bolt. If that is the case then it'll be declared an MG.


I do believe that was a closed bolt.

When he fixes the jams, you can see the bolt close and load a shell, subsequently hoisting the entire belt. He then fires it.


- BG
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