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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:20:49 PM EDT
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I'm using a 45-70 lever gun for home defense now, it would make heads explode if I ever have to use it!
ETA: Meant media if they even reported it, they wouldn't know how to ban such an outdated firearm. 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:23:04 PM EDT
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Anyone running iron sights only? Finally got a weapon light and need to decide if it goes on the rifle with iron sights or the one with the budget/cheap (primary arms) red dot. That or shut up and buy an Aimpoint PRO... If you do the reddot, and you should, Aimpoint is the way to go. Easier to see, doesn't require perfect cheekweld. Reliable. Turn it on and leave it on. Don't cheap out on a home defense rifle. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:25:32 PM EDT
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I just got my PRO in the mail today. It isn't as fancy as I thought it would be and I can only see the dot on the four highest settings.
I haven't taken it shooting yet though. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:27:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Aimpoint Micro on my hd AR.
Flashlight is the only "must have" on a hd weapon IMO. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:31:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Put it on the red dot AR. And don't listen to all the haters on here who cant appreciate budget optics. PA and Vortex both have great quality for the money. Some guys on here will swear your gun wont function if everything isnt super expensive.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:32:10 PM EDT
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I am currently running irons only, Larue fixed rear with A2 front post on M4 profile 16". I firmly believe in both irons and a light on ANY defensive weapon. I use a Streamlight Polytac in a Vltor offset mount and it is a perfect setup with the TD stubby grip. I really like this set up and feel like it can handle any situation that would arrive under HD situations, to include a Katina-type disaster situation.
That being said, I will be adding an Aimpoint as the finishing touch to the rifle after I finish a few other projects. If you plan on running irons for an HD gun, make sure you have GOOD, HIGH QUALITY irons and a GOOD light. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:35:03 PM EDT
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Try it on one for a while, then try it on the other. Pick the arrangement you like the best.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:36:04 PM EDT
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Aimpoint Micro on my hd AR. Flashlight is the only "must have" on a hd weapon IMO. Totally agree. A light is a must have on any defensive weapon. My buddy and fellow ARFCOMER constantly argues that a light is a waste and only adds weight but the truth is, if you can't see your target you don't have a target. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Bead sight on a shotgun.
Don't need to aim, so the bead is GTG.
Iron on my carbine until I can afford a "good" optic. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#10]
aimpoint pro
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:47:43 PM EDT
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I don't see a problem running irons with a good light. That being said I am running a sr15 with a t1 and surefire 6px. Wife is running a mrp with compm4s and surefire g2. But I would not have a problem throwing the optic off and running irons. Run what ya brung.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:53:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for the input. The irons are on my "better" of the two rifles but it's newer so I have yet to acquire the red dot. I'll put it on that one and see what it's like around the house. Will start adding to the Aimpoint budget in the meantime.
As for the PA micro, it's been good to me. Range time, stuffed in a case, back and forth. No issues and still on the original battery. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:07:15 PM EDT
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I'm running irons with a streamlight tlr-1.
I relocated my Aimpoint to another rifle after playing around in the dark. I found the irons really stood out nicely with a well lit target. But, I also have a 930 next to the bed with a tlr-1 and a fastfire. So... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:07:58 PM EDT
[#14]
just irons and a light on mine
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:11:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Check out Primary Arms.....and Vortex.....some really good optics for good prices
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:13:29 PM EDT
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I just got my PRO in the mail today. It isn't as fancy as I thought it would be and I can only see the dot on the four highest settings. I haven't taken it shooting yet though. First few settings are NV settings. Love my PRO |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:18:02 PM EDT
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I've thought about it.
I shoot pistols primarily (IDPA), so I get far more trigger time with iron sights than with an optic. Then again, a co-witnessed Aimpoint gives me options. If I ever decided to ditch the Aimpoint, I'd install a tritium front sight. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:18:05 PM EDT
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If you do the reddot, and you should, Aimpoint is the way to go. Easier to see, doesn't require perfect cheekweld. Reliable. Turn it on and leave it on. Don't cheap out on a home defense rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone running iron sights only? Finally got a weapon light and need to decide if it goes on the rifle with iron sights or the one with the budget/cheap (primary arms) red dot. That or shut up and buy an Aimpoint PRO... If you do the reddot, and you should, Aimpoint is the way to go. Easier to see, doesn't require perfect cheekweld. Reliable. Turn it on and leave it on. Don't cheap out on a home defense rifle. Ding!....Ding!....Ding!......The right post!............  .
Go With the Micro T-1. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:25:43 PM EDT
[#19]
Threw the vortex sparc on mine, happy with it so far.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:31:10 PM EDT
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If you train enough, you can point shoot out to 20 yards or so. don't need no sights.
I can hit a soda can at ten yards hip shooting. man size targets with just shouldering the gun and looking over the top of the gun out to 25 yards. long guns are easy at home defense distances. Handguns are where you really need to train a lot. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got my PRO in the mail today. It isn't as fancy as I thought it would be and I can only see the dot on the four highest settings. I haven't taken it shooting yet though. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:04:45 PM EDT
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Back with an update but no pics. Installed the WML on my MOE handguard via the smallest (L2) MOE rail section. This puts the head of the light past the handguard and pretty much in line with the front sight.
Long story short, wow, works great. Flipped the rear sight to the bigger aperture after realizing anything inside would be close up (duh). Sights are easily visible once the light is on and anyone in that circle is toast. Thanks again for the input, might just forget the red dot idea. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:11:31 PM EDT
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Do not count on having time to turn on an optic on a HD gun. Aimpoint is the only suitable battery powered RDO for HD since it can be left on.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:17:27 PM EDT
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OP must not have gotten the memo. Uncle Joe said ya only
need a dubble barrel shotgun to shoot up in the air with.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:18:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm using a 45-70 lever gun for home defense now, it would make heads explode if I ever have to use it!
ETA: Meant media if they even reported it, they wouldn't know how to ban such an outdated firearm. It'd make heads literally explode as well. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:20:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Irons only here! My XD 45 would be my weapon if some one would kick my door in.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:22:20 PM EDT
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It'd make heads literally explode as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm using a 45-70 lever gun for home defense now, it would make heads explode if I ever have to use it!
ETA: Meant media if they even reported it, they wouldn't know how to ban such an outdated firearm. It'd make heads literally explode as well. This. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:24:09 PM EDT
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I'm using a 45-70 lever gun for home defense now, it would make heads explode if I ever have to use it!
ETA: Meant media if they even reported it, they wouldn't know how to ban such an outdated firearm. What kinda torpedoes do you stoke that rifle with for HD duty? |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:25:32 PM EDT
[#29]
irons on my 9mm ar.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:26:05 PM EDT
[#30]
of a 1/2 dozen or so rifles...i just bought my first eotech not to long ago...so yeah i shoot irons....lol...not by choice really...
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:26:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Look at the vortex strikefire or sparc.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:32:34 PM EDT
[#32]
I'm from the K.I.S.S. school of thought.
My HD AR15 is a slickside with the old-school A1 sights. No tacticool stuff hanging off the gun. Just a light and an IDF sling. The shooting distances in my house are short. A red-dot sight would be pointless. YMMV |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:44:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Surefire scout + Aimpoint T1
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Posted: 7/26/2013 7:04:53 PM EDT
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Do the aimpoints washout with flashlight use?
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Posted: 7/26/2013 7:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do the aimpoints washout with flashlight use? No.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:19:57 PM EDT
[#36]
Aimpoint PRO, Surefire G2X, GSD I consider a sling essential on a HD gun, just my $.02 |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:32:38 PM EDT
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http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/Forum%20Postings/HD_zps9eaeff4c.jpg Aimpoint PRO, Surefire G2X, GSD I consider a sling essential on a HD gun, just my $.02 She needs a bigger dog bed. Nice HD setup! |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:37:14 PM EDT
[#38]
I run irons only with a weapon light, but that is really only because I lack the funds to purchase optics right now.
Personally, I wouldn't scoff at the idea of using a PA micro-dot. I practice with shooting while sighting along the side of the barrel though, and not using the sights. If I need to make a highly accurate shot, I have the sights, but the longest shot in my house is about 35' and I can hit center-mass and head-shots all day long at that range without using the sights. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:38:33 PM EDT
[#39]
My house gun is iron + white light.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:43:28 PM EDT
[#40]
I had a PA micro. Broke it on a Saiga from recoil. Up to that point it was great. I've never broke an Aimpoint. Still haven't changed a battery in one either, unlike the PA. The PA wouldn't have been easy to turn on, to the appropriate setting, in the dark surprised and half asleep. The Aimpoint is always on.
I'd rather have 1 used Aimpoint Pro on my "srrs business" rifle than a PA micro on every gun in the safe. I don't see anything wrong with irons either. They're always on too. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 8:52:44 PM EDT
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that's just her resting pad. she's been thru so many beds that her crate is bare. Once she gets passed the chew-every-F'ing-thing-in-sight phase we may try again with a bed.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:01:19 PM EDT
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Irons but only for a lack of funding. Even with a fancy sight i probably wouldnt use it at home defense ranges or scenarios, I grew up bird hunting and I couldnt break myself from the quick shoulder then "point" and shoot if I tried. I don't even use sights for that.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:07:12 PM EDT
[#43]
T-1 micro
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:12:28 PM EDT
[#44]
The PA micro is pretty good; but since you said Home Defense, I'd go with the Aimpoint. Granted though, that mine's seen plenty of abuse that the average civvy would dish at it and it still runs good.
Only thing is, I'm in the night vision game now; and the PA dot isn't very great with NV. So now I'm going to HAVE to go with an EOthingy 552 or Aimpoint PRO. 
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:21:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Carry handle, tritium front post, and a Streamlight Polytac on my Del-Ton Sporter.
Eotech 517 on the PSA M4. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:36:50 PM EDT
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http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/Forum%20Postings/HD_zps9eaeff4c.jpg Aimpoint PRO, Surefire G2X, GSD I consider a sling essential on a HD gun, just my $.02 Your dag needs moar weapon light too! 
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:45:23 PM EDT
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Put it on the red dot AR. And don't listen to all the haters on here who cant appreciate budget optics. PA and Vortex both have great quality for the money. Some guys on here will swear your gun wont function if everything isnt super expensive. It's not necessarily that. It's more on the reliability issue. Aimpoint, Eotech and Trijicon, for example have been proven in combat and other scenarios to function. Go the budget route and you really have no idea if it will work if you bump it, drop it, gets wet, ect. If you are using it to protect yourself, don't go cheap just to have something on it. If it's just a range toy, who cares. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:46:37 PM EDT
[#48]
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Thanks for the input. The irons are on my "better" of the two rifles but it's newer so I have yet to acquire the red dot. I'll put it on that one and see what it's like around the house. Will start adding to the Aimpoint budget in the meantime. As for the PA micro, it's been good to me. Range time, stuffed in a case, back and forth. No issues and still on the original battery. Range time and stuffed in a case isn't any kind of test to ensure reliability IMO. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 9:54:45 PM EDT
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Aimpoint PRO for me.
Front cover doesn't even need to be flipped open to get on target. With the cover open it co-witnesses perfectly with the front post. As said before a perfect cheek weld isn't required. If the dot's on the target, you're on target regardless of where the dot is in your FOV. Best bargain for the money out there for a RDS. |
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Posted: 7/26/2013 10:10:51 PM EDT
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Aimpoint M4 with BUIS and a Fenix TK22
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