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Posted: 8/29/2005 9:28:31 AM EDT
My great uncle can install it...

I just need to know where I can buy them and what brands are good and what are crap?

It's a 1 story ranch home 3bd/2ba.  About 900 sqft up and 800 down (finished basement)

I live in KC so winter gets down to 10 and summer can run 100 for a few days, mostly upper 80's  and humid.

I need the AC/Furnace combo and I also need a new outside fan unit.

Point me in some direction.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:30:10 AM EDT
[#1]
I recently had local company install a 2.5 ton Rudd inside thingy and outside thingy for $4000
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:35:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Do your research before you buy..

I have a TROY unit AC + Heat pump that holds 6.5lbs of coolant.  It's 4 and half years old and have had to replace the compressor and some of the copper piping due to defective mfg. and leaks respectively.  So far I'm out $600 (compressor was replaced under warranty, but I was charged for labor).

I'd go with a different manufacturer than TROY.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but these are my experiences.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:41:12 AM EDT
[#3]
How much should I expect the AC/Furnace/Outside fan combo to run?   I'll be assisting with the removal of the old unit and install of the new with my uncle so labor will be minimal ($500? maybe)  
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:43:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Have you considered a heat pump?  Not sure if they work well in your climate, though.
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:45:24 AM EDT
[#5]

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Have you considered a heat pump?  Not sure if they work well in your climate, though.



Heat pump is what I've got.  All the guys that worked on my unit (no jokes plz ) all groaned at the sight of a heat pump unit.  I live in NW TN. and it gets hotter than hell here...just out of curiosty what are the negatives to owning one of these?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 10:12:36 AM EDT
[#6]
I have a Heil 90 plus high efficiency furnace and it’s a total piece of crap!  It’s 15 years old. I don’t know what the problem is. If Heil stuff is bad or if the 90 plus units have bugs in them… Whatever money I saved with the 90 plus unit was lost in repair parts. It uses a glow bar igniter. I have replaced the igniter at least 4 times (I keep a spare igniter), replaced the main circuit board, and replaced the exhaust vent fan. I use this furnace as backup heat, I heat my house with a free standing wood stove.  My next unit will be a Carrier and I may think real hard about not going the high efficiency route.

I have a American Standard AC unit and haven't had one problem with it...
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 10:13:05 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
My great uncle can install it...

I just need to know where I can buy them and what brands are good and what are crap?

It's a 1 story ranch home 3bd/2ba.  About 900 sqft up and 800 down (finished basement)

I live in KC so winter gets down to 10 and summer can run 100 for a few days, mostly upper 80's  and humid.

I need the AC/Furnace combo and I also need a new outside fan unit.

Point me in some direction.



Are you planning on putting 2 units on the there?
Do you have Nat Gas there?
How well is it insulated?

We very seldom get below 25*F here where I live so we need a little less heat than you do.
I have a 2-stage Natural Gas furnace that runs on Low Stage 99% of the time to save fuel and give a more consistant temperature.

I'll help in any way I can.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 10:17:29 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My great uncle can install it...

I just need to know where I can buy them and what brands are good and what are crap?

It's a 1 story ranch home 3bd/2ba.  About 900 sqft up and 800 down (finished basement)

I live in KC so winter gets down to 10 and summer can run 100 for a few days, mostly upper 80's  and humid.

I need the AC/Furnace combo and I also need a new outside fan unit.

Point me in some direction.



Are you planning on putting 2 units on the there?
Do you have Nat Gas there?
How well is it insulated?

We very seldom get below 25*F here where I live so we need a little less heat than you do.
I have a 2-stage Natural Gas furnace that runs on Low Stage 99% of the time to save fuel and give a more consistant temperature.

I'll help in any way I can.

BigDozer66



No... Only one unit,  the basement always stays at least 5-7 degrees cooler than the upstairs.  

Yes... We do have natural gas.  I believe that's what the current furnace uses.  

Home was built in the 60's so it's a stick frame with insulation between the walls.  It has vinyl siding and 2 large maple trees that shade %75 of the house the whole day.  I also just installed new windows (17 of them) on the house.  They are argon filled, double payne and very efficient.  
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 10:33:22 AM EDT
[#9]
What size unit does it have now?

Has it done a good job heating and cooling in the past?

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 11:17:15 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
What size unit does it have now?

Has it done a good job heating and cooling in the past?

BigDozer66



I don't have a clue to the size,  the outside fan is about 4.5 feet tall (old style).  It has done ok in the past with the old drafty windows.  The A/C guy that came and checked on it 2 years ago said it only had a few years left.  The blower is shot and the whole unit is 20/30 years old.  I just want to get a new one in there before winter hits and while the house is still vacant.  My uncle mentioned something about the newer units can have the flue be a PVC pipe and route it through the basement instead of straigh up through the house.  That's also going to make a difference because I ripped down some walls, and want to put a kitchen bar/counter where the existing flue is.  So having it removed would be a bonus or if we had to just move it over a few feet and hide it behind a load bearing support.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 6:16:58 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What size unit does it have now?

Has it done a good job heating and cooling in the past?

BigDozer66



I don't have a clue to the size,  the outside fan is about 4.5 feet tall (old style).  It has done ok in the past with the old drafty windows.  The A/C guy that came and checked on it 2 years ago said it only had a few years left.  The blower is shot and the whole unit is 20/30 years old.  I just want to get a new one in there before winter hits and while the house is still vacant.  My uncle mentioned something about the newer units can have the flue be a PVC pipe and route it through the basement instead of straigh up through the house.  That's also going to make a difference because I ripped down some walls, and want to put a kitchen bar/counter where the existing flue is.  So having it removed would be a bonus or if we had to just move it over a few feet and hide it behind a load bearing support.



The PVC drain models are the 90%+ AFUE ones.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 8:42:53 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What size unit does it have now?

Has it done a good job heating and cooling in the past?

BigDozer66



I don't have a clue to the size,  the outside fan is about 4.5 feet tall (old style).  It has done ok in the past with the old drafty windows.  The A/C guy that came and checked on it 2 years ago said it only had a few years left.  The blower is shot and the whole unit is 20/30 years old.  I just want to get a new one in there before winter hits and while the house is still vacant.  My uncle mentioned something about the newer units can have the flue be a PVC pipe and route it through the basement instead of straigh up through the house.  That's also going to make a difference because I ripped down some walls, and want to put a kitchen bar/counter where the existing flue is.  So having it removed would be a bonus or if we had to just move it over a few feet and hide it behind a load bearing support.



The PVC drain models are the 90%+ AFUE ones.

BigDozer66




Ok, just had him come over today.  I'm back at work now.  He can do a 90+% efficiency AC and 3 ton furnace + the outside AC unit,  new water heater and everything can go through the PVC through the wall to the backyard and he's going to re route a vent where my sliding glass door went to + a humidifier/dehumidifier for $5,000.

He also has access to a ventless gas fireplace thing.  He didn't have the catalog on him but will drop it off later.  He said he could put one in for about $500.

He has a crew do all the heavy lifting so I wouldn't need to help.

He should start in less than 2 weeks.
Link Posted: 8/30/2005 9:27:00 AM EDT
[#13]
Oh, and a new programmable thermostat.  The one in there now is an old dial one.
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