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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:41:21 PM EDT
How do I acquire documentation to demonstrate that my antique ivory was harvested prior to 1976?  I mean apart from the fact that the fucking product is in the original 19th century packaging, with the original fucking label, why do I need to produce a fucking picture of my ancestor holding the fucking object?  What cocksucking dick-holster generated the regulation that governs this shit?  Who gave that motherfucker his job?  I'd like to meet the pile of Eichmann shit that does this.

Jesus fuck.  Land of the free my fucking ass.

What the blue fuck?  Why does this shit need to be complicated?  Why the fuck can't I just have my shit, and enjoy peace and quiet?

Why does the motherfucking bullshit government need to be involved in a set of fucking pool balls?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:42:35 PM EDT
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Ivory.....because some hungry African child......who will die anyway.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:42:35 PM EDT
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Same cocksuckers that stole Sitting Bulls head dress from the rightful owner .
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:46:22 PM EDT
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I don't know what the big deal is but pawn shops in my area won't touch ivory.

Link Posted: 1/17/2015 8:11:34 PM EDT
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How did "the government" even find out that you had them?
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?
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It has more to do with the Africans slaughtering the elephants and selling the ivory to China.  



 
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.



Land of the free fee.  Home of the brave naive.
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.



Land of the free fee.  Home of the brave naive.


Updated.



 
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:00:00 PM EDT
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Henry Bowman would help you out.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:02:45 PM EDT
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The link below has more to do with imports/exports (I'm a licensed customs broker and have been asked questions about importing ivory), but it might answer some questions.

http://www.fws.gov/international/travel-and-trade/ivory-ban-questions-and-answers.html#19
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How do I acquire documentation to demonstrate that my antique ivory was harvested prior to 1976?  I mean apart from the fact that the fucking product is in the original 19th century packaging, with the original fucking label, why do I need to produce a fucking picture of my ancestor holding the fucking object?  What cocksucking dick-holster generated the regulation that governs this shit?  Who gave that motherfucker his job?  I'd like to meet the pile of Eichmann shit that does this.

Jesus fuck.  Land of the free my fucking ass.

What the blue fuck?  Why does this shit need to be complicated?  Why the fuck can't I just have my shit, and enjoy peace and quiet?

Why does the motherfucking bullshit government need to be involved in a set of fucking pool balls?
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Hear. Hear.


Good rant.

Now. Isn't the burden of proof on the accuser?
The .gov can not say you have broken the law and then not prove otherwise, right?

(maybe that was just in some Perry Mason fantasy land of mine. )
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:03:01 PM EDT
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?



So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?
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No serious ivory collector will pay anywhere near full price for an undocumented piece.

Just saying.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:27:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:28:23 PM EDT
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9/10
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lol, pretty much.

In before the "If you don't love it, leave it!" crowd.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:38:38 PM EDT
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Did you search all of your drawers for that letter grammy left?
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How do I acquire documentation to demonstrate that my antique ivory was harvested prior to 1976?  I mean apart from the fact that the fucking product is in the original 19th century packaging, with the original fucking label, why do I need to produce a fucking picture of my ancestor holding the fucking object?  What cocksucking dick-holster generated the regulation that governs this shit?  Who gave that motherfucker his job?  I'd like to meet the pile of Eichmann shit that does this.



Jesus fuck.  Land of the free my fucking ass.



What the blue fuck?  Why does this shit need to be complicated?  Why the fuck can't I just have my shit, and enjoy peace and quiet?



Why does the motherfucking bullshit government need to be involved in a set of fucking pool balls?
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whats a set worth?



 
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How do I acquire documentation to demonstrate that my antique ivory was harvested prior to 1976?  I mean apart from the fact that the fucking product is in the original 19th century packaging, with the original fucking label, why do I need to produce a fucking picture of my ancestor holding the fucking object?  What cocksucking dick-holster generated the regulation that governs this shit?  Who gave that motherfucker his job?  I'd like to meet the pile of Eichmann shit that does this.

Jesus fuck.  Land of the free my fucking ass.

What the blue fuck?  Why does this shit need to be complicated?  Why the fuck can't I just have my shit, and enjoy peace and quiet?

Why does the motherfucking bullshit government need to be involved in a set of fucking pool balls?
whats a set worth?
 



To most people?  If it can't be proven to be legal?  Nothing.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 11:57:40 PM EDT
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7/10

Needs more bags of dicks.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:05:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:06:48 AM EDT
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Ivoryexperts.com

Did a search and came up with it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:14:48 AM EDT
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Interested in seeing what original 19th century packaging looks like
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:20:08 AM EDT
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I see ads for Ivory for sale all the time in the Backpage escorts section.  You can even get Ivory and Ebony together for an extra charge, for collectors of both.  Its illegal to sell, so they hide the ads in that section and state in the ad "no law enforcement".
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You are just now catching on?



 
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:34:15 AM EDT
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I see ads for Ivory for sale all the time in the Backpage escorts section.  You can even get Ivory and Ebony together for an extra charge, for collectors of both.  Its illegal to sell, so they hide the ads in that section and state in the ad "no law enforcement".
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Yeah, I peruse that section every day. For research purposes.
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So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?
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How did "the government" even find out that you had them?


Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?



So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?


No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I can't.  Crawl back into the asshole of America with that neckbeard shit.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:38:14 AM EDT
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No serious ivory collector will pay anywhere near full price for an undocumented piece.

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No serious ivory collector will pay anywhere near full price for an undocumented piece.

Just saying.


Exactly.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:39:37 AM EDT
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It is just a nice little wooden box.  It is tacked together, no hinges.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:41:15 AM EDT
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Tell us how you really feel... Come on, don't holdback now.
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You are just now catching on?
 


No.  I posted that for all the dumb motherfuckers on this website that voted for shitbags like John Cocksucking McCain and Lindsey Cocksucking Graham and [Insert Big Government Republican Here].  I dont think I could creep low enough in primordial melted shit to contrive something retarded enough to get a (D) voter's attention.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:45:34 AM EDT
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Pics of your balls?
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No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice illegal and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I can't.  Crawl back into the asshole of America with that neckbeard shit.
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How did "the government" even find out that you had them?


Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?



So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?


No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice illegal and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I can't.  Crawl back into the asshole of America with that neckbeard shit.

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Barrghargack I feel like these stupid shitfuckers should all eat a bowlful of there own diarrhea and choke on a bag of dicks.  Whatever uninformed, maligned, over-educated, mouth-breathing, mentally mutated, government cunt-swilling shitstick no-economics-understanding, man-on-the-street fuckfucker dreamed this retarded shit out of his ass would best serve the rest of humanity by consuming himself feet-first so that at some point he can die in confusion from eating his own self-shit.  Fuck.

Wow.  I liked my world perspective better under the influence of alcohol - when owning ivory coolstuff meant you just got drunk and peacefully gloated about your own toys.  Sobriety is sober.  God help this world and all that sucks in it if America ever wakes up from it's near-beer, NFL, and Reality TV induced slumber.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:49:22 AM EDT
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Why does the government hate clean burning ivory so much?
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How did "the government" even find out that you had them?


Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?



So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?


No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice illegal and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I can't.  Crawl back into the asshole of America with that neckbeard shit.



It isn't illegal, it is just complicated.
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They don't - they just hate you and me.
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I'm going to send them to someone.
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.



Land of the free.  Home of the brave?






So you're like the very first ivory neckbeard?




No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I can't.  Crawl back into the asshole of America with that neckbeard shit.
By the time I got to this post you edited out the part about the picture of your grandfather holding them.

 



I now take it you bought them and they are not in fact family heirlooms?




Did they not come with the proper paperwork?






Link Posted: 1/18/2015 12:58:24 AM EDT
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I don't understand the ivory thing either, I would love to have some real ivory grips for a couple of my pistols, but when you bought the ivory it was a legal purchase?  When did you buy it?  Do you have proof or documentation of a legal purchase?



"No.  I'm just another motherfucker that bought himself something nice
and would like to be able to sell it without the government telling me I
can't."

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How do I acquire documentation to demonstrate that my antique ivory was harvested prior to 1976?  I mean apart from the fact that the fucking product is in the original 19th century packaging, with the original fucking label, why do I need to produce a fucking picture of my ancestor holding the fucking object?  What cocksucking dick-holster generated the regulation that governs this shit?  Who gave that motherfucker his job?  I'd like to meet the pile of Eichmann shit that does this.

Jesus fuck.  Land of the free my fucking ass.

What the blue fuck?  Why does this shit need to be complicated?  Why the fuck can't I just have my shit, and enjoy peace and quiet?

Why does the motherfucking bullshit government need to be involved in a set of fucking pool balls?
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Uh...

You didn't happen to just come back from being a professional hunter in Africa for like 30 years, did you?

If so, here's some advice: throw away all your cold medicine immediately, take the band off your hat, and make sure you obey the speed limit.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 1:03:29 AM EDT
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Why is it even regulated?
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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

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Its like this - if I want to sell them, they need to be "legal" - like a machinegun with paperwork vs an illegal machinegun.  Except in this case, I can possess them, but I cannot transfer them.  So basically they can sit there and look nice, but I cannot sell them.  Because government.

Land of the free.  Home of the brave?



Sounds like you got a screaming deal on something, but didn't know the whole story.  

fwiw- I agree that you should be able to sell your property.  
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Do you even Endangered Animals & Contraband Bro?
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Barrghargack I feel like these stupid shitfuckers should all eat a bowlful of there own diarrhea and choke on a bag of dicks.  Whatever uninformed, maligned, over-educated, mouth-breathing, mentally mutated, government cunt-swilling shitstick no-economics-understanding, man-on-the-street fuckfucker dreamed this retarded shit out of his ass would best serve the rest of humanity by consuming himself feet-first so that at some point he can die in confusion from eating his own self-shit.  Fuck.

Wow.  I liked my world perspective better under the influence of alcohol - when owning ivory coolstuff meant you just got drunk and peacefully gloated about your own toys.  Sobriety is sober.  God help this world and all that sucks in it if America ever wakes up from it's near-beer, NFL, and Reality TV induced slumber.
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Barrghargack I feel like these stupid shitfuckers should all eat a bowlful of there own diarrhea and choke on a bag of dicks.  Whatever uninformed, maligned, over-educated, mouth-breathing, mentally mutated, government cunt-swilling shitstick no-economics-understanding, man-on-the-street fuckfucker dreamed this retarded shit out of his ass would best serve the rest of humanity by consuming himself feet-first so that at some point he can die in confusion from eating his own self-shit.  Fuck.

Wow.  I liked my world perspective better under the influence of alcohol - when owning ivory coolstuff meant you just got drunk and peacefully gloated about your own toys.  Sobriety is sober.  God help this world and all that sucks in it if America ever wakes up from it's near-beer, NFL, and Reality TV induced slumber.



Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:28:03 AM EDT
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Government knows what is best for us, just ask them
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It's for the elephant children.  

Which is something totally different from the Elephant Man.  
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:37:52 AM EDT
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Pics?
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Dumbass voters who elected the asshole. Twice.
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Barrghargack I feel like these stupid shitfuckers should all eat a bowlful of there own diarrhea and choke on a bag of dicks.  Whatever uninformed, maligned, over-educated, mouth-breathing, mentally mutated, government cunt-swilling shitstick no-economics-understanding, man-on-the-street fuckfucker dreamed this retarded shit out of his ass would best serve the rest of humanity by consuming himself feet-first so that at some point he can die in confusion from eating his own self-shit.  Fuck.

Wow.  I liked my world perspective better under the influence of alcohol - when owning ivory coolstuff meant you just got drunk and peacefully gloated about your own toys.  Sobriety is sober.  God help this world and all that sucks in it if America ever wakes up from it's near-beer, NFL, and Reality TV induced slumber.
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Barrghargack I feel like these stupid shitfuckers should all eat a bowlful of there own diarrhea and choke on a bag of dicks.  Whatever uninformed, maligned, over-educated, mouth-breathing, mentally mutated, government cunt-swilling shitstick no-economics-understanding, man-on-the-street fuckfucker dreamed this retarded shit out of his ass would best serve the rest of humanity by consuming himself feet-first so that at some point he can die in confusion from eating his own self-shit.  Fuck.

Wow.  I liked my world perspective better under the influence of alcohol - when owning ivory coolstuff meant you just got drunk and peacefully gloated about your own toys.  Sobriety is sober.  God help this world and all that sucks in it if America ever wakes up from it's near-beer, NFL, and Reality TV induced slumber.

Holy fuck that was well said. That post reminded me of this article that was linked in GD recently:

markmanson.net/not-giving-a-fuck
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