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Posted: 9/14/2005 5:31:44 PM EDT
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20058288587

That is an AMAZING range.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:42:23 PM EDT
BTT. Thought this would send some satisfaction to the folks who saw the slain SEAL thread.

But it got bumped right off the page.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:44:52 PM EDT
Cpl. Matt Orth, a 22-year-old scout sniper with 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment stares down the scope of his M40 A3 sniper rifle. The Clearwater, Fla., native is credited with the longest kill of the current seven-month deployment. He killed an insurgent approximately 1,256 yards away in the city of Husaybah, Iraq.

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:45:24 PM EDT
www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20058288587

Link made hot.

It's not that hard people.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:45:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 5:47:42 PM EDT by steve-oh]
Good for him! Nice shot.

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:48:31 PM EDT
I hate to crap on someone else's bloodbath, but I would assume there is a certain amount of luck involved at that range

Good shot though. The fact remains that he wanted to shoot the guy and he did.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:49:00 PM EDT
GET SOME, MARINES!

Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:57:24 PM EDT
Can you say, "Nice shot"
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 5:59:44 PM EDT
HELL YEAH! GET SOME MARINE!
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:00:47 PM EDT
Nice work.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:15:36 PM EDT
damn fine shot!
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:28:13 PM EDT
Hopefully using a pork-based bullet lube, and the ROP'er got to suffer a bit a lot.
Matthew
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 6:32:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I hate to crap on someone else's bloodbath, but I would assume there is a certain amount of luck involved at that range





Why? Carlos Hathcock made long range shots, so did soem Canucks in Afghanistan. It is not uncommon to here of people making 1000 yard shots, know your range, know your weapon, and train train train!


I am bettign this young man has the training, ahs a certain amount of aptitude towards this type of shooting, and had a good range finder or spotter with him.

Life is good if you're not a terrorist
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 8:59:40 PM EDT
Isn't 1200 yds stretching a .308 out?

Or was he using a .50?
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:09:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By crazyquik:
Isn't 1200 yds stretching a .308 out?

Or was he using a .50?



The M40 A3 is a 30 cal.

1,000 yards is a long shot for a 7.62 NATO. You have to load them warm for the bullet to stay supersonic at 1K yards.

A 1,256 yard kill witha .308 shows an incredible ammount of skill, and a fair amount of luck too!
A most excellent shot.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:13:38 PM EDT
I could see with a Barrett, but an m40? Holy shit! Now i'll never laugh when i see a old rifle with a sight measured out to 2000 meters! To make that shot the guy (target) must've been sleeping or sitting on a toilet or something
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:19:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 9:21:15 PM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:24:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 9:25:03 PM EDT by t-stox]

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By TacticalPenguin:
It is not uncommon to here of people making 1000 yard shots, know your range, know your weapon, and train train train!



With the range known, it is not so tough. At Gunstock I, my wife took a single shot with our .50 BMG rifle at 1000 yards--and hit the "X" (~3" tall) of the X-ring. A man-sized target at 1200 should be NBD for a trained sniper.

As a matter of fact, Striker's wife took her first shot EVER with a rifle--same set-up, and hit about a foot from dead center. Not bad for her first shot ever with any kind of rifle. Cool lady.

Oh, both shots were witnessed by about 20 guys--including Mark Westrom of Armalite Corp. and CockedandLocked and Striker.

Kudos for this guy doing it under combat conditions though. Nicely done!


ETA: Just saw the posts above--with anything in .30 caliber it's a whole 'nother ball game. The shot was amazing. Nothing short of amazing.




Yeah but the point is it aint a .50 BMG, it's a lousy 7.62 NATO! I figured at that range a .30 cal nato would "ping" your skin and give you a bad welt at worst!

ETA: ooopss did'nt see your ETA! oh well.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:35:36 PM EDT
You guys must not have ever shot Palma matches. Those shots are do-able with an excellent rifle, good ammo and an experienced shooter/spotter team. Just wish I could do it
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 9:46:52 PM EDT
There are some days and events that I do not mind paying taxes for. This was one of them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2005 10:03:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2005 10:17:08 PM EDT by Joe357]
It was not said he made that shot with his M40 A3. I recall another sniper that took out an insurgent at more then 1000 yards, with his m82(AP non-match ammo, missed the first shot, adjusted, was dead on). But he was also pictured with his 308. on the armys website.


*Edit for article

"With little time to calculate an accurate wind speed, Reichert took his best guess, aimed, and fired, hitting his target on his second shot from what was later found to be 1,614 meters away, more than a mile."
www.boston.com/sniper_gets_bronze_star_for_risks_he_took_in_iraq/
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:56:06 AM EDT
Talk about reaching out and touching someone
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:57:08 AM EDT
Damn.

Thats nice shootin.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:01:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 9:05:07 AM EDT by EPOCH96]
HEY LONG DISTANCE SHOOTERS!

How small does a mansized target look thru a 10x scope at 1,200 yards? I would guess really small? I have never shot out past 300 Need to find some nice open land...

EPOCH
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:06:12 AM EDT
HOORAAA!!! Great shot, keep up the excellent work!
GO GET'EM, MARINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<­BR>
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:09:23 AM EDT
Highly skilled, lucky who cares...Keep knockin' em dead.

1200 yards!!! I'd be happy to just see my bullet kick up dirt at that distance. "Yeah baby, I hit the ground with that shot."
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:09:35 AM EDT
This is making feel all warm inside
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:09:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I hate to crap on someone else's bloodbath, but I would assume there is a certain amount of luck involved at that range




BULLSHIT! Luck would be if he got close. That is a confirmed kill. That is what you call skill. PERIOD!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:13:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By t-stox:
To make that shot the guy (target) must've been sleeping or sitting on a toilet or something

That's the best time to get them! Why wait when they are awake and attacking your position?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:15:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 9:16:14 AM EDT by KnobCreek]

Originally Posted By tesnevo:

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I hate to crap on someone else's bloodbath, but I would assume there is a certain amount of luck involved at that range




BULLSHIT! Luck would be if he got close. That is a confirmed kill. That is what you call skill. PERIOD!



Come on...it's skill either way. No ordinary shooter can just go hit a target at 1200 yards with a .308. Hitting a 48inch steel plate at that distance requires skill, let alone a mansize target.

This isn't even a debate, for God's sake.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:17:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EPOCH96:
HEY LONG DISTANCE SHOOTERS!

How small does a mansized target look thru a 10x scope at 1,200 yards? I would guess really small? I have never shot out past 300 Need to find some nice open land...

EPOCH



Know what mil dots look like?

A 6' man at 1200 yards would be approximately 1.7 mils in size.

Thats how big it looks.

At 1000 yards, he's be 2 mils.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:31:54 AM EDT
SWEET!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 11:51:10 AM EDT
Did *anyone* read the article? He used a 50 cal. The pic, for y'all who must be illiterate, does seem to show an M40 type rifle.

www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/03/03/sniper_gets_bronze_star_for_risks_he_took_in_iraq

With his .50-caliber rifle pressed close to his shoulder, Reichert was his patrol's eyes as about 20 fellow Marines entered a maze of unknowns. It was last April, and the town south of Baghdad was in the midst of Arba'een, a Shi'a religious holiday. In military terms, he was in a guardian-angel position.

By the end of the day, Reichert became a hero, hitting an insurgent machine gunner from more than a mile away with a gun meant to disable tanks, not humans.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 11:55:12 AM EDT
So what? Just because he's pictured with an M40 does not preclude his use of the .50 (presumably M82) on the noted patrol.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 11:56:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pogo:
Did *anyone* read the article? He used a 50 cal. The pic, for y'all who must be illiterate, does seem to show an M40 type rifle.

The link from the USMC site was broken.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:07:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pogo:
Did *anyone* read the article? He used a 50 cal. The pic, for y'all who must be illiterate, does seem to show an M40 type rifle.
www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/03/03/sniper_gets_bronze_star_for_risks_he_took_in_iraq



Did you read my post. Thats a different marine scout sniper, whos hopefully retired with his russian born wife Ira in Europe, by now. Both used 50 cal tho, imho .
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:09:19 PM EDT
This is the guy in the original post: Cpl. Matt Orth and I can't find anywhere what weapon he used to make that shot

The other marine, Reichert, was mentioned later in this post and used a .50


Cpl. Matt Orth, a 22-year-old scout sniper with 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment stares down the scope of his M40 A3 sniper rifle. The Clearwater, Fla., native is credited with the longest kill of the current seven-month deployment. He killed an insurgent approximately 1,256 yards away in the city of Husaybah, Iraq.
Photo by: Lance Cpl. Lucian Friel



Here's another article on Cpl. Orth:
Article
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:09:36 PM EDT



at that distance i wouldn't even be able to hit planet earth without the help of gravity.


Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:13:34 PM EDT
Geez, some of you guys are taking out of your rears. Before you question the 1,000 yard capbility of the 7.56 NATO cartridge, you should research PALMA and the international PALMA load.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:18:30 PM EDT
Dead insurgents.

USMC the insurgent detergent.



Max
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:30:01 PM EDT
you can all yammer about the round or the gun all you want. 1200 yard kill, Ooooh-Rah.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:41:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By stator:
Geez, some of you guys are taking out of your rears. Before you question the 1,000 yard capbility of the 7.62 NATO cartridge, you should research PALMA and the international PALMA load.


Fixed it for you.

Why trash other peoples opinions, article does not mention what weapon he was shooting at the time.

Link Posted: 9/15/2005 12:42:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
I to crap on someone else's bath, but I would assume there is a certain amount of luck involved at that range



Yeah, Bad luck for the person on the receiving end.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 1:35:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 1:37:13 PM EDT by pogo]
Ah, two different guys.

That is what happens to reading comprehension when you read snippets at a time while working. Ranges seemed similar enough. Besides, I haven't gotten into a good screaming match on the board lately. Feel kinda lonely with no enemies.
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