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Posted: 2/6/2006 9:18:24 AM EDT
www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2004/11/28/the-netherlands-vs-holland/


What’s the difference between “Holland” and “The Netherlands”? Both titles refer to the same country, so what gives? “Holland” is just the name of two western provinces and are the location of the majority population, but is nonetheless widely used to refer to the entire country. It is perhaps equivalent to the usage of England in reference to Great Britain or the United Kingdom.

People from the rest of the country will often object to this name, and there’s even a religious and historical background to this mini-culture war. The southern provinces of Limburg and Noord Brabant are mainly Roman Catholic while western Holland is Protestant. During the time of the United Provinces these areas had few political liberties—some might even say they were exploited as colonies. It wasn’t until after WWII, with modernization of Dutch society, did the rest of the country feel its relative power increase. Even so, anti-Holland sentiment remains in much of the same way as many Dixie Southerns disdain the Yankee north.

I suppose part of the reason that many Westerners prefer Holland is that the word “Netherlands” sounds a place in a different dimension.



Long live the House of Orange!!




Link Posted: 2/6/2006 9:37:08 AM EDT
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 9:49:11 AM EDT
Thank you. I have always wondered about this. This seeming interchangeabillity happens in a couple of languages. The Germans use "Nederland", but sometimes refer to a resident as a "Hollaender." Now I know from wher the "holland" part comes. Didn't think I would learn anything today, though I really do want to learn something new every day.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 9:50:34 AM EDT
I've never heard anyone say they were "Hollandaise"
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:02:00 AM EDT

orignally posted by thedoctors308

How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



+1. Enquiring minds want to know.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:07:08 AM EDT
Yeah, let's get this RIGHT. The last thing we need to do at this point is offend anyone.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:15:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Let's just say if DK_prof was a legit Dutchman, he'd have to change is moniker to NL_prof. As a Viking, I doubt he'd do it
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:16:46 AM EDT
I don't think I've ever been happier than I am right now.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:18:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By munkalido:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Let's just say if DK_prof was a legit Dutchman, he'd have to change is moniker to NL_prof. As a Viking, I doubt he'd do it



True.

Todays riddle: the "DK" in DK_Prof's name stands for....what now?

Here's a few hints....

It's not the Netherlands.

It is a country that starts with the letter "D" and ends with the letter "K".
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:19:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 10:20:33 AM EDT by 10mmFan]
I was wrong.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:20:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Bastard!!



Actually, the term is often used interchangably. Many Dutch people will say that they are from Holland.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 10:45:46 AM EDT
My grandmother (Oma) was Friesian. And don't you forget it! She was very partial to her home province.

Friesland

Kent
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:07:28 AM EDT
I hear they call 1/4 pounders Royale w/ Cheese there.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:19:16 AM EDT
"Hey, Everybody, I'm From Holland. Isn't That Weird!" - Goldmember
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:19:29 AM EDT
I am still trying to figger out how they got the term "dutch" for residents of Holland.....

I mean if a guy is from:

Turkey, he is a Turk...
Germany....German
America...American
France...........Frog...

There is an order to these things.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:25:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
I've never heard anyone say they were "Hollandaise"



No, they're Dutch, which make a lot more sense.

(I know, it is a language thing but still...)
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:42:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M4:

Originally Posted By munkalido:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Let's just say if DK_prof was a legit Dutchman, he'd have to change is moniker to NL_prof. As a Viking, I doubt he'd do it



True.

Todays riddle: the "DK" in DK_Prof's name stands for....what now?

Here's a few hints....

It's not the Netherlands.

It is a country that starts with the letter "D" and ends with the letter "K".



Dark?
Drink?
Dork?
Da­nk?
Damneveyonehereisadrunk?

Gimme a minute, I'll get it eventually
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:48:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By yekimak:
I am still trying to figger out how they got the term "dutch" for residents of Holland.....

I mean if a guy is from:

Turkey, he is a Turk...
Germany....German
America...American
France...........Frog...

There is an order to these things.



It's all about language spoken, I believe. Dutch is the primary derivative of German that is spoken in them there parts, I think.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 11:57:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/6/2006 11:58:07 AM EDT by yekimak]

Originally Posted By M4:

Originally Posted By munkalido:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Let's just say if DK_prof was a legit Dutchman, he'd have to change is moniker to NL_prof. As a Viking, I doubt he'd do it



True.

Todays riddle: the "DK" in DK_Prof's name stands for....what now?

Here's a few hints....

It's not the Netherlands.

It is a country that starts with the letter "D" and ends with the letter "K".



Deutsche Demokratik Republik?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 12:05:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
I've never heard anyone say they were "Hollandaise"



No, they're Dutch, which make a lot more sense.

(I know, it is a language thing but still...)



Dutch is the english translated word for Nederlander/Nederlandse
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 12:11:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By munkalido:

Originally Posted By ArmedAggie:

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
I've never heard anyone say they were "Hollandaise"



No, they're Dutch, which make a lot more sense.

(I know, it is a language thing but still...)



Dutch is the english translated word for Nederlander/Nederlandse



Or Nederlands (as in "they speak Dutch")
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 12:12:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4:

Originally Posted By munkalido:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
How does DK_prof feel about this?
I'd like to know what the resident dutchman has to say.



Let's just say if DK_prof was a legit Dutchman, he'd have to change is moniker to NL_prof. As a Viking, I doubt he'd do it



True.

Todays riddle: the "DK" in DK_Prof's name stands for....what now?

Here's a few hints....

It's not the Netherlands.

It is a country that starts with the letter "D" and ends with the letter "K".



Link Posted: 2/6/2006 2:59:14 PM EDT
So who wants to talk about the Flemish, and their large, shaggy dogs, and where they fit into all of this?
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