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Posted: 8/2/2005 7:48:38 AM EDT
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CONCORD, N.H. -- Sen. Hillary Clinton says she's not running for president, but ads touting her candidacy are running on New Hampshire television this week.

Television spots by the Florida-based group Hillary Now! will air in four New Hampshire cities. The group has no official ties to Clinton's office, but founder Bob Kunst said he's laying the groundwork for a potential bid.

Kunst said Clinton's the strongest Democrat on the political horizon. He also believes Clinton will attract votes from Republicans unhappy with the Bush administration.

The New York senator has not openly declared presidential ambitions, even as she's often mentioned as a contender. Her press secretary said Clinton is flattered by the support, but is focusing her efforts on getting re-elected to the Senate next year.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:55:26 AM EDT
The next few years are going to be terrifying.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:56:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chooper:
The next few years are going to be terrifying.




+1
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:56:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chooper:
The next few years are going to be terrifying.



+1, although I am hoping for a huge backlash from this whole thing sometime.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:57:32 AM EDT
Let not your heart be troubled. We've still got almost four years to stock up on ammo.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:01:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:02:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:
Let not your heart be troubled. We've still got almost four years to stock up on ammo.



Yup. Anyone who seriously believes she has a chance of being elceted POTUS should stay in shape, train, and remain well supplied.
These fricking socialists keep me motivated and ready.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:14:58 AM EDT
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:19:08 AM EDT
Seems to me there is a good way to deflate her trial balloons.
Beat her in her NY Senate race next year.
As a LOSER, it will be harder to run for Preisdential office.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:24:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



Certainly not America.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:26:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 8:27:39 AM EDT by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Seems to me there is a good way to deflate her trial balloons.
Beat her in her NY Senate race next year.
As a LOSER, it will be harder to run for Preisdential office.

The Beast will easily slay any foe foolish enough to cross her path as she ascends towards her throne.

Puny mortals.

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:27:12 AM EDT
I heard that of all people, the Texas Cattlemans Association is backing her. Their take- "We love fat calves"

Anyway, I'm squirreling away $ to reach goal by summer '08- I'll have enough for a AR10.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:34:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By callgood:
I heard that of all people, the Texas Cattlemans Association is backing her. Their take- "We love fat calves"

Anyway, I'm squirreling away $ to reach goal by summer '08- I'll have enough for a AR10.



And then in '09 possession will be illegal.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:36:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif



So.. if they take things away from more than 50% of the population, then who is this 'common good' demographic?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:38:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By callgood:
I heard that of all people, the Texas Cattlemans Association is backing her. Their take- "We love fat calves"

Anyway, I'm squirreling away $ to reach goal by summer '08- I'll have enough for a AR10.



And then in '09 possession will be illegal.



Tough shitski.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:40:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif



So.. if they take things away from more than 50% of the population, then who is this 'common good' demographic?



Welfare crowd who votes for her.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:42:40 AM EDT

He also believes Clinton will attract votes from Republicans unhappy with the Bush administration.


That'll be the fucking day! She couldn't buy a Republican vote. And all the libertarian's and many moderates would vote against her. The only people she would lock up votes from is the more liberal, leftwing element. As we saw last year, that alone won't get it done. Hillary couldn't even carry as many states as Kerry.


Kunst said Clinton's the strongest Democrat on the political horizon


If she's really the best they've got, then they are in pretty fucking sad shape. Had she not moved to a liberal headquarters, she'd have never been elected to the Senate.

Hillary could win NY, MA, IL, CA and possibly NJ. That's about it. So I hope she does run. That'll gaurantee victory for whatever Republican gets nominated.

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:43:40 AM EDT
Hillary can't win a war-time election.

end of story.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:47:33 AM EDT
I, for one, hope that they trot out Hillary in '08.
I can't think of a more divisive candidate.

Quote me now DU lurkers
Hillary in '08 will guarantee another Republican administration
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:48:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif



So.. if they take things away from more than 50% of the population, then who is this 'common good' demographic?



Good for their constituency of paid off voters. And them of course, let us not forget that little fact.
Without "entitlements" the Democratic Party would implode in no time.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:49:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 8:51:06 AM EDT by FanoftheBlackRifle]

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:




Please tell me someone has bumper-stickers of that for sale, and on the cheap?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:51:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By callgood:

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By callgood:
I heard that of all people, the Texas Cattlemans Association is backing her. Their take- "We love fat calves"

Anyway, I'm squirreling away $ to reach goal by summer '08- I'll have enough for a AR10.



And then in '09 possession will be illegal.



Tough shitski.



Yeah, I decided when the AWban died that i was done listening to their bullshit laws. If they can piss all over the Constitution, I can piss on their fucking laws, and on them.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:53:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By chooper:
The next few years are going to be terrifying.




+1



another +1
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 8:55:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Seems to me there is a good way to deflate her trial balloons.
Beat her in her NY Senate race next year.
As a LOSER, it will be harder to run for Preisdential office.



Won't happen.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:09:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Seems to me there is a good way to deflate her trial balloons.
Beat her in her NY Senate race next year.
As a LOSER, it will be harder to run for Preisdential office.



Won't happen.



Because she's unbeatable? Or they like her there?


Seems to me Rudy Guilianni could take that seat without even campaigning.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:11:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:13:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif




Please tell me someone has bumper-stickers of that for sale, and on the cheap?



My sis in law makes magnet bumper strickers. I will see if she will make some.


Drawback is that she is a complete and total libbie.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:33:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.



Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified. For that matter so is the Hildebeast. I wouldn't vot e for either but I might actually prefer the Beast. Let's get it on and get it over with.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:35:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Seems to me there is a good way to deflate her trial balloons.
Beat her in her NY Senate race next year.
As a LOSER, it will be harder to run for Preisdential office.



+1 New Yorkers, get on the ball.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:39:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.



Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified. For that matter so is the Hildebeast. I wouldn't vot e for either but I might actually prefer the Beast. Let's get it on and get it over with.



I can see your motivations appear to be racial. That said, Rice is far more qualified than Clitlery, more qualified than the current President, and even more qualified than JFK who won the Presidency at about the same she is.

I daresay that Ms Rice would own you on any kind of internal or international policy issue.

But she's black, and that trumps all. Right?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:39:58 AM EDT

Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:41:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.



Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified. For that matter so is the Hildebeast. I wouldn't vot e for either but I might actually prefer the Beast. Let's get it on and get it over with.



I can see your motivations appear to be racial. That said, Rice is far more qualified than Clitlery, more qualified than the current President, and even more qualified than JFK who won the Presidency at about the same she is.

I daresay that Ms Rice would own you on any kind of internal or international policy issue.

But she's black, and that trumps all. Right?



Now that is an absolutely assinine thing to say. Where the Hell did you get that from my post?

I suppose I should just grovel before all black people to prove I am not a bigot?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:42:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.



I don't think there are as many of those shitstains left as you would guess.
They probably never vote anyhow.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:45:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 9:45:24 AM EDT by david_g17]

Originally Posted By SWO_daddy:

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By Busch308:
Let's make a bet with the Dems. They run Hillary, and the Republicans run Condy. We all know who'll win that one.



I hate to say it but many closet 88's wil never vote for a black. I think they will prefer a white devil over a black hero.



Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified. For that matter so is the Hildebeast. I wouldn't vot e for either but I might actually prefer the Beast. Let's get it on and get it over with.



I can see your motivations appear to be racial. That said, Rice is far more qualified than Clitlery, more qualified than the current President, and even more qualified than JFK who won the Presidency at about the same she is.

I daresay that Ms Rice would own you on any kind of internal or international policy issue.

But she's black, and that trumps all. Right?



swo, i can see your motivations appear to be racial.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:54:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif



She made that statement to a group of her fans (mostly women) in San Francisco and much to my surprise, they did not take it well. Maybe there's hope for that city after all.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:56:09 AM EDT
she's going to look pretty good after most of L.A. is glowing after the nuke that was smuggled over the southern border is detonated. all she will have to say is Jorge did not protect you, vote for me and I'll look after you.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:01:46 AM EDT

Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified.

She was woefully unqualified to be NSA and even more so to be Secretary of State, but after eight years in Washington with four of it as Secretary of State, she is as qualified as any of the other front-runners. Bush, as many Republicans have pointed-out, was wrong to have originally picked her for the job, but that's in the past. Let it go.z
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:02:59 AM EDT
Speaking of "ads," no doubt "Commander-in-Chief" with Geena Davis is propaganda to get us ready for Hillary.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:12:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By zoom:

Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified.

She was woefully unqualified to be NSA and even more so to be Secretary of State, but after eight years in Washington with four of it as Secretary of State, she is as qualified as any of the other front-runners. Bush, as many Republicans have pointed-out, was wrong to have originally picked her for the job, but that's in the past. Let it go.z



Let it go? You guys are talking about running her for President. Get real.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:13:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mattja:
Speaking of "ads," no doubt "Commander-in-Chief" with Geena Davis is propaganda to get us ready for Hillary.



You bet your ass it is and the simpleton morons that get their directions from the boob tube will do what they are told for the most part.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:18:44 AM EDT
The day she gets elected is the day I start stockpiling food, ammo, and meds.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:26:18 AM EDT
Hitlery will never be elected Potus or vice Potus. Too many people hate the bitch. When she actually has to start answering questions, people will realize she is a socialist. She would go down in flames.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:28:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 10:28:39 AM EDT by bulldog1967]

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
The day she gets elected is the day I start stockpiling food, ammo, and meds.



You better start NOW son!
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:28:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
The day she gets elected is the day I start stockpiling food, ammo, and meds.



You better start NOW son!



+1 WTF do you mean "start"

I don't have 2 nickels to rub together but I've got my essentials squared away. What's your excuse?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:33:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif




Please tell me someone has bumper-stickers of that for sale, and on the cheap?



My sis in law makes magnet bumper strickers. I will see if she will make some.


Drawback is that she is a complete and total libbie.



WildBoar: How would she feel about this one: NAFTA + CAFTA = SHAFTYA
Could be a market for it.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:06:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
members.cox.net/the-macallan/Bump_TheBeast1.gif



Nice work.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:13:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ironoxbows:
I, for one, hope that they trot out Hillary in '08.
I can't think of a more divisive candidate.

Quote me now DU lurkers
Hillary in '08 will guarantee another Republican administration



+1 I'm right there with you.

Bringing out Hillary would be the worst thing the Democrats could do.

Which is why we should encourage them to do it. Pretend to tremble in fear of Hillary! Oh NOOOO!!! Hillary's unbeatable!
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:14:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By zoom:

Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified.

She was woefully unqualified to be NSA and even more so to be Secretary of State, but after eight years in Washington with four of it as Secretary of State, she is as qualified as any of the other front-runners. Bush, as many Republicans have pointed-out, was wrong to have originally picked her for the job, but that's in the past. Let it go.z



Let it go? You guys are talking about running her for President. Get real.



Her qualifications MAY have been questionable for the NSA position. I don't think they were, but I'll concede the point, 'cause it just doesn't matter. The fact is, that she did a hell of a job at it.

She MAY also be underqualified as the SecState. But again, she's doing a hell of a job at it.

Regardless of her initial 'paper' qualifications, she's done well at all of these positions. Putting her IN those positions speaks well of W as a judge of charecter.

I don't think we should run her for Pres in 08. But I do think that we should run her as VP. And Pres in '16.

She'd beat Hitlery, though - hands down, no contest.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:20:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Rebel_Marine:

Originally Posted By zoom:

Well, Condi's no hero first off. Secondly, she is woefully unqualified.

She was woefully unqualified to be NSA and even more so to be Secretary of State, but after eight years in Washington with four of it as Secretary of State, she is as qualified as any of the other front-runners. Bush, as many Republicans have pointed-out, was wrong to have originally picked her for the job, but that's in the past. Let it go.z



Let it go? You guys are talking about running her for President. Get real.



Her qualifications MAY have been questionable for the NSA position. I don't think they were, but I'll concede the point, 'cause it just doesn't matter. The fact is, that she did a hell of a job at it.

She MAY also be underqualified as the SecState. But again, she's doing a hell of a job at it.

Regardless of her initial 'paper' qualifications, she's done well at all of these positions. Putting her IN those positions speaks well of W as a judge of charecter.

I don't think we should run her for Pres in 08. But I do think that we should run her as VP. And Pres in '16.

She'd beat Hitlery, though - hands down, no contest.



I think you're all nuts. God help us if y'all get your way. God help us all.

As for the Beast, I don't think she is electable either but if she gets the nomination she sure as Hell has a chance. More than I'd like to see. And if GWB keeps on going with his lack of border protection and other socialist nonsense like the Medicare Rx Plan he may alienate enough of his base that they fail to vote or go for a third party. A few percent is all it will take in all likelihood.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:24:39 PM EDT
I'll put it like this: 51% of the country could easily say "Unlike GW, Hillary says she will protect the borders, and she says she will give us EVEN MORE FREE gummit benefits than GW did? She's got my vote!!!!!"

Not everyone perceives her as a Marxist gun-hater.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 12:32:44 PM EDT
I'm not worried about Hillary running.

I'm much more concerned about who the Republicans choose as their presidential candidate.
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