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Posted: 10/5/2004 1:41:17 AM EST
How many times you see the soldier using the mag well as the forward grip? I do the same actually, but I love it when there's a forward pistol grip there.

I realize he'll pribably switch to teh grip for CQB or if he needs his light, but I just think they're funny pics.

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Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:46:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 1:46:24 AM EST by obershutze916]
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:48:07 AM EST
Proof that how you train is how you fight.
He probably didn't get a forward grip till recently.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:48:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 1:49:16 AM EST by chapperjoe]
hahahah -good point of balance comment. i always see that add in shotgu nnews with the company that will "texturize" teh front of the magwell of your receiver. I'm an inch away from doing that myself.

Proof that how you train is how you fight
+1,000,000
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:50:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By obershutze916:
I would hold it like that too if someone put all that shit on my rifle.



Yeah, KISS!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:52:37 AM EST
Mega lowers come from the factory with the texturing machined into mag well
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:52:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Proof that how you train is how you fight.
He probably didn't get a forward grip till recently.


+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:52:54 AM EST
Actually he'd be more comfortable with that weight if he put his hand on the grip.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:53:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 1:54:17 AM EST by warlord]
USA soldiers have been at the forefront of improvising to facilitate getting jobs done from day 1 of the republic. So why should this be different?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:57:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sharkman629:

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Proof that how you train is how you fight.
He probably didn't get a forward grip till recently.


+1


+2
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 2:16:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 2:17:29 AM EST
I bet the problem is that he has his forward grip too far forward and it is uncomfortable to use it.

Most likely, he attached it shortly after he picked up the rifle and he either doesn't know how to move it or doesn't have the tools.

As for the first one, obviously his light is in the way.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 2:43:10 AM EST
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 2:55:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.



+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:01:12 AM EST

Most likely, he attached it shortly after he picked up the rifle and he either doesn't know how to move it or doesn't have the tools.



FYI, It doesn'r require any tools to adjust the fore grip.


He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




Yeah, what he said x2
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:05:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
i always see that add in shotgu nnews with the company that will "texturize" teh front of the magwell of your receiver.


One of the manufacturers who make lowers, Mega, I think, comes with a textured gridding on the
front of the magwell on their receiver. I don't have hands-on experience with one, just seen the
pics. ISTR that it was a larger square pattern.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:07:05 AM EST
So where are the funny pics? Works for me.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:08:56 AM EST
The farther you move your grip back, the easier to carry the rifle in the ready, the farther forward it is the more taxing it is to keep the weapon up.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:12:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tanker06:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
i always see that add in shotgu nnews with the company that will "texturize" teh front of the magwell of your receiver.


One of the manufacturers who make lowers, Mega, I think, comes with a textured gridding on the
front of the magwell on their receiver. I don't have hands-on experience with one, just seen the
pics. ISTR that it was a larger square pattern.



They call it "Gator Grip"
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:13:00 AM EST
I've found myself reverting to a mag hold after a mag change. Don't know why as my last carbine course with Pat Rogers i used a VFG so i would think i should have that programmed by now.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:14:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gunner1X:
So where are the funny pics? Works for me.



If it were a pic of the IDF, and I said IDF soldier had a "funny grip" THAT would be anti-semitic.







Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:15:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 3:23:34 AM EST by Cypher214]

Originally Posted By colesteele:

Most likely, he attached it shortly after he picked up the rifle and he either doesn't know how to move it or doesn't have the tools.



FYI, It doesn'r require any tools to adjust the fore grip.


He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




Yeah, what he said x2




FYI, it does require tools for MANY manufacturer's grips. Namely the KAC which I am pretty sure is the issue grip.

I don't see what the problem is. We aren't ridiculing the guy for his grip, we are pointing out that he is just going back to what he is accustomed to. Just goes to show that you can't slap something on a rifle and expect a soldier to use it right away.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:26:35 AM EST
I used to hold my mag/mag well when live firing at the range, I suspect that I'd do it in combat too. It's really not uncomfortable and was more stable than holding your hand WTF out there on the handguards. JMHO YMMV
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:29:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By colesteele:

Most likely, he attached it shortly after he picked up the rifle and he either doesn't know how to move it or doesn't have the tools.



FYI, It doesn'r require any tools to adjust the fore grip.


He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




Yeah, what he said x2




FYI, it does require tools for MANY manufacturer's grips. Namely the KAC which I am pretty sure is the issue grip.



Are you saying that the KAC vertical grip requires a tool to adjust?


Chris
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:40:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 3:40:23 AM EST by Cypher214]

Originally Posted By mrcr0603:

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By colesteele:

Most likely, he attached it shortly after he picked up the rifle and he either doesn't know how to move it or doesn't have the tools.



FYI, It doesn'r require any tools to adjust the fore grip.


He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




Yeah, what he said x2




FYI, it does require tools for MANY manufacturer's grips. Namely the KAC which I am pretty sure is the issue grip.



Are you saying that the KAC vertical grip requires a tool to adjust?


Chris



Sorry, I was wrong. I was thinking about the GGG grip which I am pretty sure has an allen head screw. The KAC does not require tools.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:43:50 AM EST
Anyone that can call in aircraft and/or artillery support.

I not gonna criticize.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:45:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:48:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 3:49:02 AM EST by BayEagle]
It's not exactly unprecedented...

home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/25ID_Vietnam_Dusk.jpg ETA - the pic is big

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:50:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




+1


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:54:51 AM EST
where the FUCK did this criticize shit come from. NOT MY ORIGINAL POST. there was ZERO negative here. I thought it humorous - the redundancy of the VFG. I think I made that very very clear. JEEEEEEEEBUZ you flame-starters are NUTS!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:56:07 AM EST
Someone is wond a little tight I think.

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 3:56:15 AM EST
I'm sorry chapped joe -

Could you speak up???

Didn't hear anything after "funny..."



Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:29:52 AM EST
Arfkom is really a love/hate thing. I love the site but hate you motherfuckers.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:41:05 AM EST
I've seen pics of Romanian troops with AKs and forward grips. They still have their hand around the mag and magwell. I personally do the same thing and think that forward grips are a waste.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:22:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
where the FUCK did this criticize shit come from. NOT MY ORIGINAL POST. there was ZERO negative here. I thought it humorous - the redundancy of the VFG. I think I made that very very clear. JEEEEEEEEBUZ you flame-starters are NUTS!!!!!




You must be from NY. AH HA! I see you are.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:36:27 AM EST
Nothing wrong with switching back and forth from the mag well to a vertical grip. I do it all the time as the situation requires...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:55:11 AM EST
I still have yet to install a vertical grip on any of my personal weapons. I doubt I ever will. I, too, just pull into the magazine well if necessary.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:02:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By PONY_DRIVER:
I used to hold my mag/mag well when live firing at the range, I suspect that I'd do it in combat too. It's really not uncomfortable and was more stable than holding your hand WTF out there on the handguards. JMHO YMMV



+1

Def more stable since you can tuck your arm into your body for support. Esp. if you're doing it all day like these guys are.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:17:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




What ever is right.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:20:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.





There THAT is!

AB
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:21:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:22:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
He helped clear Samarra last weekend.


We all sat around on the internet and debated the "value" of "Shit" on our rifles....




word.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:24:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Proof that how you train is how you fight.
He probably didn't get a forward grip till recently.


+3
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:26:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:
He's boots on the ground.

Far be it from me to criticise his rifle hold.




I agree
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:27:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 8:28:46 AM EST by Dave_A]
I've often found it's more convienient to move your grip rearward, to right about where the magwell is...

Unless you like keeping your arm stretched all the way out to the muzzle all day...

VFGs have their place in controlling FA fire (ala Thompson), but the magwell is far more convenient & provides better support for semi...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:29:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
Arfkom is really a love/hate thing. I love the site but hate you motherfuckers.





Niiiiccceeeeeee.

Being here is a CHOICE. NO ONE is holding a gun to your head.


Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:30:06 AM EST
Far be it from me to crticize those guys. God bless em and keep them safe. They also might be trying to avoid switching on their grip activated lights, which could certainly attract someone's attention.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:32:58 AM EST
[Sen Feinstein]these guns are meant for spray fire from the hip, that's why they have that handle thingie...and you can do it with just one hand.[/Sen. Feinstein]

Simply put, the criminal population is way ahead of the Army in knowing how to kill.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:34:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 8:38:38 AM EST by MindHunter]

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:
Proof that how you train is how you fight.
He probably didn't get a forward grip till recently.



BINGO!!! Spoken like a well schooled firearms instructor.

Hunter out...

edited because my post made no sense without the quote
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:35:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 8:40:37 AM EST by MindHunter]


Originally Posted By CAMPYBOB:
for aimed fire , it a very good hold.



What exactely would the hold be for unaimed fire? And why?

Hunter out...

edited because I forgot the damn QUOTE again.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:36:10 AM EST
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