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Posted: 8/1/2009 1:08:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/1/2009 1:48:58 PM EST by Parana1]
This is absolutely absurd, no matter your political affiliation.

Contact your Representatives and let them know how you feel about this…Another 500 pages to go. Below are a few of the items that are downright unconstitutional
· Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
· Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
· Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process).
· Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
· Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
· Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
· Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
· Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN).
· Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.
· Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans).
· Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens.
· Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
· Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
· Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
· Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
· Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
· Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
· Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll.
· Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll.
· Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
· Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
· Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
· Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
· Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
· Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same.
· Page 253: Government sets value of doctors' time, their professional judgment, etc.
· Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
· Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
· Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
· Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
· Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
· Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
· Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
· Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
· Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.
· Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
· Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
· Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
· Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
· Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
· Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
· Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
· Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.
· Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
· Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
· Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
· Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage.
Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.






(EDITED TO ADD)

Source

The source is the healthcare bill itself, I looked up a few of the pages on the bill to correlate
to this list and the few I checked were indeed in the bill, though some of the pages I checked were
off by one or two pages from the content, there have been some revisions of the bill and I do not
know which revision this list was created from.

The author of this particular list is unknown, just got it in an email and it made me mad.

More people need to know some of the crap the politicians are trying to sneak in this damn thing.

Also, although the bill does not name ACORN specifically, instead it says "community organizations".
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:17:37 PM EST
Got any sources for this info?
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:18:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/1/2009 1:18:14 PM EST by marksman121]
And a large portion of Americans will neither find this out nor care.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:22:14 PM EST
Source please.

Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:35:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
Got any sources for this info?



source

The source is the healthcare bill, I looked up a few of the pages on the bill to correlate
to this list and the few I checked were indeed in the bill.

The author of this particular list is unknown, just got it in an email and it made me mad.

More people need to know some of the crap the politicians are trying to sneak in this damn thing.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:39:46 PM EST
this is fucking scary

i hope our reps are reading this

everyone should call and email the hell out of their represenatives during this august recess so they get the message
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:40:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/1/2009 1:40:56 PM EST by m00ler03]
if this is true

· Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan

Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:40:56 PM EST
· Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.




I wonder why HC opponents don't spend any time talking about that little tidbit?


Swiss bank accounts, anyone?
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:45:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
if this is true

· Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan




The bill does not mention ACORN by name but does mention "community organizations". Might be acorn, might not, but if not, then it is something similar.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:47:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By Parana1:
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
if this is true

· Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan




The bill does not mention ACORN by name but does mention "community organizations". Might be acorn, might not, but if not, then it is something similar.





Seems like everything fucked up lately has ACORN's name all over it.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:47:37 PM EST
its like rush said,this bill is about circumventing the bill of rights and getting more control of the government over everyone's lives.if this passes we are fuked.this is THE socialist revolution!
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:48:24 PM EST
As a physician I can tell you there is NO way I am going to be a government employee. As for fixiing my salary so that an Ophthalmic surgeon with 30 years experience gets the same salary as a first year GP .. Aint going to happen. They may pass it, but the doctor's arn't going to sign on.

This isn't like the air traffic controlers that could be replaced with retrained people in 90 days. Take me for example, I spent 8 years after college training for my specialty. I have 30 years experience in ocular surgery. You are not going to replace me in 90 days.

At 59 I would love to work another 9 or 10 years, employing my 19 people and paying taxes. But you try and put me on a salary, make me a gov't employee and screw it, I will live in a smaller house, retire, and go fishing.

Anybody else here see the Fox report on the patient who went blind in England because they wouldnt give him an injection in his eye to prevent blindness.? Right now it would take all of a half an hour for me to get him treatment. This is what our future holds....
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:48:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By jdessell:
Originally Posted By Parana1:
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
if this is true

· Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan




The bill does not mention ACORN by name but does mention "community organizations". Might be acorn, might not, but if not, then it is something similar.





Seems like everything fucked up lately has ACORN's name all over it.


They will be running the country, along with Goldman Sachs.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:49:40 PM EST
Wasn't there a book about this? 1984 by George Orwell?

People wake up we no longer have rights Big Brother is going to watch every thing we do, between this bill and Cap and Trade the federal government will have totally scraped Constitution.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:50:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:53:15 PM EST
Looking at the bill, I don't read it that way. It sounds like it is requiring electronic funds transfer for payments of claims to healthcare providers, i.e. the .gov is not going to send checks.
Originally Posted By BangStick1:
· Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.




I wonder why HC opponents don't spend any time talking about that little tidbit?


Swiss bank accounts, anyone?


Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:54:28 PM EST
tag for later reading
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 1:58:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By Quigley:
As a physician I can tell you there is NO way I am going to be a government employee. As for fixiing my salary so that an Ophthalmic surgeon with 30 years experience gets the same salary as a first year GP .. Aint going to happen. They may pass it, but the doctor's arn't going to sign on.

This isn't like the air traffic controlers that could be replaced with retrained people in 90 days. Take me for example, I spent 8 years after college training for my specialty. I have 30 years experience in ocular surgery. You are not going to replace me in 90 days.

At 59 I would love to work another 9 or 10 years, employing my 19 people and paying taxes. But you try and put me on a salary, make me a gov't employee and screw it, I will live in a smaller house, retire, and go fishing.

Anybody else here see the Fox report on the patient who went blind in England because they wouldnt give him an injection in his eye to prevent blindness.? Right now it would take all of a half an hour for me to get him treatment. This is what our future holds....


im with you doc your gonna see a reversal of americans going to canada where private practices and services is booming.socialized medicine is a failure up there too.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 2:33:24 PM EST
Patrick Henry said what to do with those kind of people that write that type of tyrany.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 2:48:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/1/2009 2:52:59 PM EST by RhinelandArms]
To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans
and reduce the growth in health care spending, and
for other purposes.


This is the header to the Obamacare medicine bill, I just can not help but wonder....WTF does "and for other purposes" really mean. I have never seen another bill like that.


I am reading this turd now, right there on page 16 it states that the insurance companies can not sign up any new customers after "Y1" That will effectively put out of business and employment all start up offices and sales employees to all medical insurance companies.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 2:56:59 PM EST
Thanks for writing this down. I cant wait for te next 500 pages
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 2:58:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Quigley:

Anybody else here see the Fox report on the patient who went blind in England because they wouldnt give him an injection in his eye to prevent blindness.? Right now it would take all of a half an hour for me to get him treatment. This is what our future holds....

i saw a report on Macular Degeneration patient. only the problem it wasn't logistical or a matter of something being amiss. it was reported that in England the patient is REQUIRED to lose sight in one eye before they treat the other.

...yep, just wait until it's free.
Link Posted: 8/1/2009 3:31:39 PM EST
We are so fucked!!! To all the assholes that voted for these assholes FUCK YOU!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:14:50 AM EST
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