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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:00:12 PM EDT
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FATTYSAUCE
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:02:57 PM EDT
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is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies?
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:03:13 PM EDT
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Very subsidized sugary corn product
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:04:01 PM EDT
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is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies? Probably subsidies. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:04:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Standard Capacity Corn Syrup
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:06:10 PM EDT
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Crap
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:06:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies? Probably subsidies. Its a combination of subsidies and sugar tariffs. Protectionist idiocy at its finest. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:08:06 PM EDT
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is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies? Plenty of subsidies and it is also cost effective due to its stability (extends the shelflife of many products considerably). |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:08:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies? Probably subsidies. Its a combination of subsidies and sugar tariffs. Protectionist idiocy. Last I heard Americans pay about double the world market price for sugar due to tariffs. Thanks uncle sam.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:10:26 PM EDT
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Call it whatever you want. Crap is crap.
I'm sticking with real sugar. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:11:36 PM EDT
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FATTYSAUCE  at your reply, and at the thought of your avatar saying it.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:12:48 PM EDT
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"Sugar" is technically sucrose. "Corn sugar" is mostly fructose. So yes, it is a sweetener, but it's not plain ol' sugar as the CGA would have you believe.
Fructose is for fruit, you need the fiber with the fructose to effectively metabolize it. Fructose sans fiber is bad mojo. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:16:04 PM EDT
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Lardasspartame
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:18:19 PM EDT
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This is a poorly conceived campaign...
CORNY is a lot easier to say than HFCS. Mark my words. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:18:24 PM EDT
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How about poison?
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:20:10 PM EDT
[#16]
peak corn syrup
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:20:17 PM EDT
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The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:23:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. I am of the belief that it really does not matter what sugar you put in your body at high levels. HFCS is just the easy target for people that over eat and become fat. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:24:57 PM EDT
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Being allergic to corn syrup and spending a fortune over my lifetime buying products without it, I say fuck'em!
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:25:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. I am of the belief that it really does not matter what sugar you put in your body at high levels. HFCS is just the easy target for people that over eat and become fat. Agree, but too much is too much, especially when government subsidies and a sugar embargo are largely to blame. I'm all for free market capitalism, but when an entire industry has exploited politicians for decades to get its product into every.fucking.thing, enough is enough. Look familiar?  |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:29:28 PM EDT
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic.
Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:31:14 PM EDT
[#22]
How about Farm Welfare Syrup?
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:34:44 PM EDT
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH yea but a Hitler mustache didn't hurt anybody, and you can't have one still to this day It's no worse than sugar, but yet everybody thinks it is, too much is too much, even too much arfcom is bad (did I just say that) |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:36:01 PM EDT
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH yea but a Hitler mustache didn't hurt anybody, and you can't have one still to this day It's no worse than sugar, but yet everybody thinks it is, too much is too much, even too much arfcom is bad (did I just say that) Aaaaaannnnnnnddddddd that's where you lost all credibility 
_MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:37:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH Yet that's exactly what they did with MSG. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:38:21 PM EDT
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Maybe it really isn't any more harmful than table sugar. I don't know. There is some evidence which suggests otherwise, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt for a sec.
If you're guzzling shittons of sucrose daily, if it's jammed into everything from juice and soda to fucking sandwich bread, you're still going to get fat as fuck. There is no good reason to be chowing down on as much sugar as we, as a nation, do. Why is America so fat? Because we make sugar into a goddamn lifestyle. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:42:22 PM EDT
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Product rebranding happens all the time. Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC when popular sentiment decided that fried things were bad. Rapeseed oil wouldn't be a big seller, so it became canola oil.
Since everything in food today needs be "low" - calories, fat, sugar, etc, having a product called High Fructose anything gives off a negative vibe, so I can certainly understand why they are changing it. However, I agree with the common thought that HFCS is worse than cane or beet sugar. Whether that is ever proven for certain remains to be seen. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:44:30 PM EDT
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How about Farm Welfare Syrup? 
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:46:09 PM EDT
[#29]
Lots-o'-fructose syrup of maize.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:46:19 PM EDT
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH Yet that's exactly what they did with MSG. And I still don't buy any food products with Madison Square Garden in the ingredients. _MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:48:33 PM EDT
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The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. Nobody wants it because they're idiots who are gullible enough to think that HFCS is making America fat. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:50:07 PM EDT
[#32]
How about diabetic inducing sweet stuff.
Bilster |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:51:56 PM EDT
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The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. Nobody wants it because they're idiots who are gullible enough to think that HFCS is making America fat. HFCS does not cause the same feeling of "being full" that cane sugar does. The result is an over-consumption of the product that contains it, which results in weight gain. Now, it can be argued that this over-consumption is not the fault of HFCS, but the fault of the consumer's lack of personal discipline. Along that same line of thought, however, it can also be argued that the consumer eschewing products containing HFCS is a demonstration of their (perhaps newfound) personal discipline. _MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:52:57 PM EDT
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How about Farm Welfare Syrup? Huge Farming Corporation Subsidies-sauce? Why not just call it what it is... Communism |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:54:22 PM EDT
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How about Farm Welfare Syrup? Huge Farming Corporation Subsidies-sauce? Why not just call it what it is... Communism Soylent Green is people! High Fructose Corn Syrup is communism! Kind of has a nice ring to it, but I gotta have more cow bell... _MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:55:22 PM EDT
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It's time to declare WAR on the CORN FARMERS.
First they steal our money with government subsidies. Then they poison us with HFCS. Which is of course cheaper than cane sugar only because of the subsidies. Then they poison the air and, damage our cars, empty our wallets faster, and destroy the environment with their corn-derived ethanol in the gasoline. Oh, and then to make matters worse, they create a genetic mutant of the corn we all knew and loved. All hail the glory of Monsanto, who commits genocide against natural corn and creates a mutant that poisons the body of those who eat it, and enslaves the few independent farms that are left. DEATH TO CORN!!!!!! LEAVE NO EAR UNTOUCHED!!!! Have you ever seen a commie eat an ear of corn? We must destroy Monsanto and save our precious bodily fluids from this poison! |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:56:23 PM EDT
[#37]
They did that with MSG too.
It's not good for ya... tell ya that much.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:57:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH yea but a Hitler mustache didn't hurt anybody, and you can't have one still to this day It's no worse than sugar, but yet everybody thinks it is, too much is too much, even too much arfcom is bad (did I just say that) Yes, it is worse than sugar per metabolic methods, but we digress since it seems you have worse issues to deal with ..... |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:57:04 PM EDT
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Being allergic to corn syrup and spending a fortune over my lifetime buying products without it, I say fuck'em! I bet you're not overweight. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:57:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH I think you're underestimating the intelligence the majority of US consumers. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 7:59:52 PM EDT
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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and a poison by any other name would be still as toxic. Okay, HFCS isn't really poison, but you get the point. I just can't bring myself to fathom that these people seriously believe calling it "corn sugar" will make people say "Well! At least it's not high fructose corn syrup! Johnny, ring me up for a pallet!" _MaH I think you're underestimating the intelligence the majority of US consumers.
You know, you bring up a good point. It actually brings up a question that haunts me on a daily basis... "Does not exploiting the hell out of incompetent people to get filthy rich make me a good person or an absolute idiot?" _MaH |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:02:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: is it really cheaper to produce than cane or beet sugar? or is that just because of the fucking subsidies? It's all about the subsidies. |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:03:55 PM EDT
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There is a very, very big CORN LOBBY in our Gov. All the Libs are trying to turn it. Maybe for the better? Maybe for the LAND, kinda like with beef? I still prefer Cain sugar myself. I've been using sorghum syrup lately. Not too bad, and made in MS.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:07:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: Call it whatever you want. Crap is crap. I'm sticking with real sugar.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:08:28 PM EDT
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How about "Diabeetus"?
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:17:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. I am of the belief that it really does not matter what sugar you put in your body at high levels. HFCS is just the easy target for people that over eat and become fat. Agree, but too much is too much, especially when government subsidies and a sugar embargo are largely to blame. I'm all for free market capitalism, but when an entire industry has exploited politicians for decades to get its product into every.fucking.thing, enough is enough. Look familiar? http://www.treehugger.com/idiocracy-gatorade.jpg Funny I could argue that you are falling into "it's what plants crave" group just in reverse. Seriously it is all bad for you the key is moderation! FHCS or sugar will not adversely affect you if you rarely drink sodas it will become a problem if you drink a 6 pack or more a day. Now you will get no argument that the government has fueled the spread of corn products from HFCS to ethanol with subsidies and tariffs. I think the underling problem is people like sweet things and consume too much of them. EDIT> also it is the electrolytes that are fucking up the soil in that movie no mention of HFCS  |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:23:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. I am of the belief that it really does not matter what sugar you put in your body at high levels. HFCS is just the easy target for people that over eat and become fat. Agree, but too much is too much, especially when government subsidies and a sugar embargo are largely to blame. I'm all for free market capitalism, but when an entire industry has exploited politicians for decades to get its product into every.fucking.thing, enough is enough. Look familiar? http://www.treehugger.com/idiocracy-gatorade.jpg Funny I could argue that you are falling into "it's what plants crave" group just in reverse. Seriously it is all bad for you the key is moderation! FHCS or sugar will not adversely affect you if you rarely drink sodas it will become a problem if you drink a 6 pack or more a day. Now you will get no argument that the government has fueled the spread of corn products from HFCS to ethanol with subsidies and tariffs. I think the underling problem is people like sweet things and consume too much of them. EDIT> also it is the electrolytes that are fucking up the soil in that movie no mention of HFCS I quit soda 2 years ago and haven't looked back, but even iced tea, green tea, peach iced tea, fruit juice... it all has HFCS. Then, if I want to get some snack bars to keep around for when I get hungry at work, I have to sort through boxes and boxes of HFCS-infused shit at the grocery store before I find something that uses regular sugar. I'll expand my dislike of HFCS to include artificial sweeteners like sorbitol and splenda... apparently the only way companies can make "healthy" food is by substituting regular sugar with synthetic or plant-derived sweeteners. How about using sugar, but only half or 1/3? Lately I've been buying this stuff because it gives me a flavorful drink and 1 serving (8 oz) is only 50 calories vs. 180 of a typical O.J.  *edit - And a preemptive "screw off" to the "water only" crowd. Some of us enjoy drinking liquids that have "flavor". |
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:24:29 PM EDT
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I was reading this at work in the paper...
I raged so goddamn hard... 
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Soylent Yellow.
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Posted: 9/15/2010 8:26:02 PM EDT
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The fact that they want to change the name just affirms that they acknowledge nobody wants it in their food, or more broadly, nobody wants it to be in 90% of everything you buy that wasn't dug up from the ground or plucked from a tree before hitting the shelves. I am of the belief that it really does not matter what sugar you put in your body at high levels. HFCS is just the easy target for people that over eat and become fat. No, the problem with hfcs is the fact that while its made from the same molecules as sugar, fructose and glucose, it lacks the bond between them that sugar has. This means it takes less work for the body to metabolize and if you aren't expending energy it goes straight into storage (fat). Plus it encourages stupid subsidies and tariffs. |
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