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Posted: 8/23/2005 11:11:53 AM EDT
I haven't for damn sure and never will. What the hell is wrong with people?? Killing someone over a tank of gas. God help us.

Lawdog
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:12:33 AM EDT
Theft is theft.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:14:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:14:41 AM EDT
I predict a rise in sales of locking gas caps when teenagers figure out how to use a syphon....
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:15:00 AM EDT
I'll admit to having walked off with quite a few things in my life, but never a tank of gas.

Not once.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:15:15 AM EDT
me...yet
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:15:19 AM EDT
I haven't ever stolen gas..........
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:16:36 AM EDT
Never have, never will.

HH
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:17:37 AM EDT
I "stole" a whole tankful last week. Went into my usual store and bought a coke and newspaper and walked out without paying for the gas. I paid for it later that day when I realized what I did.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:18:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Never have, never will.

HH



I stole gas out of my boat recently to put in my car.

Though it was my boat

-didnt feel like going to the gas station, when I had a full tank of gas in my boat, that I would not be using for the rest of the year.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:19:31 AM EDT
Nope... but I did notice in my area that several of the station snow have people standing out by the pumps keeping an eye on people...

I also agree that there would be money in stealing gas from the tanks of veichles these days and when I think aout my nealy 30-galon tank and what that means in $$$ I agree that locking gas caps may well become a good investment....

Funny how years ago everybody had them but not anymore...
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:19:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2005 11:22:08 AM EDT by PBIR]
Not me.

sidenote - Pulling in somewhere and waiting for the pump to be activated,then walking in a minute later to have the fat girl behind the counter tell me "That's a prepay pump" pisses me off! If it's prepay only, put a friggin sign on it that says so!
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:21:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:22:05 AM EDT
Nope, never.....and I see I am not alone.


Besides stealing a tank of gas seems like alot of work.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:22:58 AM EDT
A question, HOW are they stealing the gas?

I cannot remember the last time I pumped at a place that didn't require money of a CHECKED credit card to turn the pumps on.

Not that I would try to do so, stealing is stealing, and blaming the corner gas station owner for your own financila problems is stupid, but is there something I'm missing?
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:23:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lawdog:
I haven't for damn sure and never will. What the hell is wrong with people?? Killing someone over a tank of gas. God help us.

Lawdog



Never have, never will. WTF are you talking about............killing someone over a tank of gas.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:23:42 AM EDT
I know the frequency of drive-offs has increased nation-wide.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:24:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CITADELGRAD87:
A question, HOW are they stealing the gas?

I cannot remember the last time I pumped at a place that didn't require money of a CHECKED credit card to turn the pumps on.

Not that I would try to do so, stealing is stealing, and blaming the corner gas station owner for your own financila problems is stupid, but is there something I'm missing?



In the land of the free out here, most pumps are not prepay, or at least not until after dark. (Except for a few, see my previous post)
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:25:10 AM EDT
I guess this post is related to this story:
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/gas.rage.ap/index.html

Observers fear thefts, violence to rise with gas prices

Tuesday, August 23, 2005; Posted: 12:09 p.m. EDT (16:09 GMT)

Emergency workers attend to Husain "Tony" Caddi at a Fort Payne,
Alabama, gas station.

*MONTGOMERY, Alabama (AP) -- The death of an Alabama service station
owner illustrates the point that a gasoline industry group makes over
and over to its members: Losing money during a drive-off isn't worth
losing your life.*

Husain "Tony" Caddi, 54, died Friday after being run over by a driver
who police believe wasn't going to pay for $52 worth of fuel. Police are
searching for the driver of the gold or tan Jeep-style SUV.

With gasoline prices soaring, industry experts predict the number of
drive-offs -- and violence -- will increase.

"It's a very difficult situation, and you're never sure how people are
going to react," said Sam Turner, president of Calfee Co. of Dalton,
Georgia, which operates 114 Favorite Markets convenience stores in the
South.

"It's something on everybody's mind right now because it's a commodity
that virtually everybody uses. You're talking about a heck of an impact
to their billfold."

The Petroleum & Convenience Marketers of Alabama tells gas retailers to
never take action themselves during robberies and drive-offs, said
Arleen Alexander, the group's executive director.

"But I can understand why someone would want to fight for their
property," Alexander said. "Fifty-two dollars doesn't sound like that
much, but with the little they're making these days that's a lot."

On average, one in every 1,100 fill-ups was a gas theft last year, the
National Association of Convenience Stores said. With about a penny per
gallon as profit, a retailer would have to sell an extra 3,000 gallons
to offset each $30 stolen, said Jeff Lenard, a spokesman for the group.
Caddi would have had to pump an extra 5,200 gallons to make up for the
$52 drive-off.

Gasoline theft cost retailers nationwide $237 million in 2004 -- more
than twice the $112 million loss in 2003, according to NACS. Gas prices
have jumped this summer by as much as 18 cents to an average of $2.55 a
gallon nationally.

"As the price of gas climbs, people's values decline," Lenard said.

Lenard and Turner said safety and theft concerns have pushed most gas
stations in the region to shift to a prepay policy, but even that is not
a perfect solution. A prepay policy cuts down on browsing and buying in
gas station stores -- a big chunk of owners' profits.

"We're in uncharted territory. We're seeing more people going to prepay
than ever before," Lenard said. "I think we'll look back on 2005 and
say, 'Remember when we used to be trusted to pay for our gas?"'

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press All rights reserved.
© 2005 Cable News Network LP, LLLP. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:25:22 AM EDT
I had my gas siphoned once - kept a lock on the cap for a long time after that. At these prices, might have to start that up again eventually.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:25:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Quarterbore:


Funny how years ago everybody had them but not anymore...



Yep they were a big thing during the last gas crunch as well...

As history repeats itself..
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:26:01 AM EDT
Yeah, that story confused me at first, because all pumps in Miami are 'pre-pay'.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:27:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
I guess this post is related to this story:


*MONTGOMERY, Alabama (AP) -- The death of an Alabama service station
owner illustrates the point that a gasoline industry group makes over
and over to its members: Losing money during a drive-off isn't worth
losing your life.*

Husain "Tony" Caddi, 54, died Friday after being run over by a driver
who police believe wasn't going to pay for $52 worth of fuel. Police are
searching for the driver of the gold or tan Jeep-style SUV...



Wow. Killed for $52 worth of gas. That is messed up.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:28:03 AM EDT
Never have and never will. I am not a thief. I HATE THIEVES
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:28:17 AM EDT
The only thing I've ever stole are condoms.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:28:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:
I know the frequency of drive-offs has increased nation-wide.



Big time. Lots of stations here are going to pre-pay for cash, or some form of cash card to ID each customer before they start to pump. Seems like half the world thinks nothing of stealing anymore. My boss just said he doesn't care "cause the gas stations are raping everyone else".
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:30:02 AM EDT
some jackasses in my apartment complex keep stealing people's gas caps. They don't siphon the gas or anything, they just like stealing the caps, so I already have a locking gas cap.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:30:21 AM EDT
I refuse to give my business to any place that requires me to prepay. I have no idea how much gas I'm going to need.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:31:00 AM EDT
They actually allow people to pump gas before paying?

I don't think any gas stations do that in AZ.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:31:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2005 11:32:34 AM EDT by monkeyman]
With gas so expensive I can't carry enough cash on me, so I use pay at the pump with a credit card. Kind of hard to steal gas using a credit card, though I suppose one could use a stolen credit card.
Stealing gas in Michigan is a felony.

BTW I pay off my credit card each month.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:36:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2005 11:39:27 AM EDT by HSimpson]
HAHA!

kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=3753036

ETA: The video in this link details the use of shotguns to defend personal property without taking of life.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:36:45 AM EDT
I've also discovered something new. I went to one station a little bit ago and used my credit card at the pump. The pump stopped at $40 even. After calling the owner of the station, I found out that some stations are now putting limits on pay-at-the-pump. But if you go inside with your credit card, no limit set.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:46:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By guardian855:
They actually allow people to pump gas before paying?

I don't think any gas stations do that in AZ.



Lots of gas stations in MO still do. (I've also seen it in IL, KY and TN recently)


I usually jsut use a credit/debit card at the pump, but if I'm buying a soda or something in the shop, I'll pay for all of it inside when I'm done.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:53:02 AM EDT
I use that little speedpass thingy. Hold it up to the circle and them pump away.
BTW: They're making a hell of a lot more profit than a penny a gallon.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 11:56:08 AM EDT
I don't condone stealing, but giving up your life for a few dollars is not worth it. Me? I would chaulk that up a s a cost of doing business.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:00:17 PM EDT
Hell, I had no idea y'all were talking about drive-off's.

That has to be the dumbest shit in the world to do.

I thought you meant siphoning it out of someone's tank at night.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:01:18 PM EDT
The only vehicles I've siphoned were my own.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:05:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:
I predict a rise in sales of locking gas caps when teenagers figure out how to use a syphon....



a rubber tube, burn out the lungs
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:10:07 PM EDT
I found out one of my employees poked a hole in another person's gas tank, not only stealing gas but damaging the car.

He no longer works for me.

Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:13:06 PM EDT
it's physically impossible to steal gas unless you syphon it here.

they're all pay first pumps in the whole city


I've never seen a pump first-pump
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:18:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Grunteled:

Originally Posted By Hokie:
I know the frequency of drive-offs has increased nation-wide.



Big time. Lots of stations here are going to pre-pay for cash, or some form of cash card to ID each customer before they start to pump. Seems like half the world thinks nothing of stealing anymore. My boss just said he doesn't care "cause the gas stations are raping everyone else".



I know a gas station owner. Shell gas.
He told me he doesn't make a dime off the gas he sells.
Shell takes all the money.
He makes his money on everything else at the station.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:20:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2005 12:21:08 PM EDT by Greenhorn]
Principal Skinner: Otto, go fill the bus' gas tank. Here's the "credit card" *hands Otto a rubber pipe* And a mint for afterwords.

*LATER*

Otto: *Finishes siphoning* Ooh, I shouldn't have eaten the mint first.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:20:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:24:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/23/2005 12:25:32 PM EDT by FourStringSlinger]
Did it lots when I was a kid. Same with Beer and smokes.

We called it "yahooing". Run into the store, 3-4 of us, fill our arms with cartons of smokes and cases of beer, and run like hell out the door yelling "YAHOO!"Hop into a car with somebody waiting behind the wheel, and haul ass.

Never personally got caught, but a couple kids from our group started doing it themselves, using piss-poor techniques...hitting the same place twice in one week. Cops showed up to the school and arrested 'em.

I was a bit of a delinquent.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:24:39 PM EDT
I havn't . I tried once back in 74 at a car dealer w/ some high school freinds . Damn near got caught by the gaurd ! I geuss they'd " seen our kind B4 "
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:25:57 PM EDT
I never stole any gas.

This reminds me of Donnie Baker's Discount Gas on Bob & Tom.

I swear to God it does.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:27:27 PM EDT
I stopped at a gas station on my way back from South Carolina a little while back, and the dipstick behind the register kept getting on the intercom every time someone did anything but pay-at-pump, "To the owner of the light green Nissan, your pump is ready. Thank you for choosing Bob's Gas. We'll see you inside." This she repeated about every 15 seconds. Then every couple of minutes she'd say crap like, "Security, I need a full scan of all vehicles. License plates and models. Thank you.", which was totally stupid because:

A) "Security" was a camera with a VCR, I'm sure.
B) Even if it was a real person, you'd think they'd have filled them in on their job when they were hired, not every two minutes all day long.

She might as well have been saying, "We're watching you. Don't even think about stealing my gas, you asshole." Pissed me off.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:28:23 PM EDT
I also pulled the "shit I got gas and didn't pay for it" manuever once.

I pumped, there was a big line behind me, I moved my car over so the next person could move forward, went inside, bought groceries, paid and left.

Usually the cashier asks if you bought gas, and you tell them what pump, but we both forgot.

Got a few miles down the road when I looked and saw that the tank was full and that I got $30 from a $50 bill when I should have only gotten $10.

Ooops. I turned around and she laughed as soon as I walked in, paid for the gas and went home.

I've been to less than 10 pay before you pump stations, and I always just pay out at the pump with a CC.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:36:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:41:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By guardian855:
They actually allow people to pump gas before paying?

I don't think any gas stations do that in AZ.



Lots of gas stations in MO still do. (I've also seen it in IL, KY and TN recently)


I usually jsut use a credit/debit card at the pump, but if I'm buying a soda or something in the shop, I'll pay for all of it inside when I'm done.



Didn't there used to be unmanned stations in Danishland, no one worked there, you just used a credit card? I read that in a spy novel




We don't have gasoline, because all of our cars are windmill-powered.
Link Posted: 8/23/2005 12:47:37 PM EDT
I usually give away free gas wherever I go.



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