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Posted: 9/11/2004 6:07:27 AM EST
Here is a sample of what is fed to the masses.

The New York Times
September 11, 2004

On Guard, America
Editorial

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/opinion/11sat1.html

As regressive milestones go, few are as frightful in this new era of homeland security as the decision by Congress and the Bush administration to allow the expiration of the 10-year-old law protecting the public from assault rifles and other rapid-fire battlefield weapons. The law - a far from perfect but demonstrably effective restraint on high-tech gunslingers - expires on Monday with not a whimper from the White House.

When George Bush was a candidate four years ago and under campaign pressure from moderates, he announced that he did support the renewal of this highly popular law. It turned out that he was shooting rhetorical blanks; his support depended on the renewal's ever getting through Congress in the first place. As president, Mr. Bush has never once demanded that his G.O.P. leaders cease playing first responder to the demands of the gun lobby and take the initiative on this public safety issue.

A decade's experience with the assault weapons ban showed clearly that the only people who were inconvenienced were the criminals, the gun lobbyists and the least responsible gun dealers. Certainly the Second Amendment rights of responsible hunters were never crimped. Anyone taking to the woods next week with a freshly unfettered AK-47 or Uzi, or a TEC-9 assault pistol, will only make mincemeat of the game and a mockery of sportsmanship.

Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford pleaded with President Bush to do more than give passive lip support to the ban, just as most major law enforcement agencies told him the law was a vital check on gun mayhem across the nation. But rather than protecting the law, the administration invested its single-party control of government on behalf of the National Rifle Association, not the public. Instead of trying to control assault weapons, Republican Congressional leaders tried to outlaw legitimate damage suits by gun victims against irresponsible manufacturers and dealers.

Now the greedier gun dealers are preparing to profit on the law's expiration as if it signaled the arrival of Beaujolais nouveau. The Bush administration has allowed the right to bear arms to degenerate back to the right to brandish battlefield weapons on the home front.

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The Los Angeles Times
September 10, 2004

Gun Profits for Votes: It's Enough to Make You Sick
By Dianne Feinstein

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-feinstein10sep10,1,1790525.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

Ten years ago, Congress passed the assault weapons ban, one of the most important public safety measures this country has seen. Although it was not perfect, it represented the best we could do to stem the growth and spread of these weapons throughout our cities and states. But that legislation is going to expire Monday, despite the fact that we have 52 votes for its reauthorization (if it were allowed to come to the Senate floor) and the fact that nearly three-fourths of the American public supports the ban, as do two-thirds of gun owners and every major law enforcement organization in the country.

The National Rifle Assn. will say: The bill is cosmetic. It hasn't done anything. It has been ineffective.

Then why has the NRA made this legislation and its demise its No. 1 priority? The fact is the NRA is wrong. The percentage of banned assault weapons used in crimes is down by nearly two-thirds since 1994.

Presidents Clinton, Carter, Ford and Reagan, and even George W. Bush, have all expressed support for renewing the ban. But three days from today, none of this support will matter. The assault weapons ban will be history, one more victim of the powerful, selfish NRA and its brutal lobbying tactics. Because the president has steadfastly refused to put his money where his mouth is and help us renew the ban, it is going to expire without so much as even a vote in the House.

We have cried out in vain. There has been no response from the White House. Instead, the president quietly awaits Sept. 13 and hopes that after he lets the ban expire, he can again receive the endorsement of the NRA, because the NRA is not going to make its endorsement until the ban expires. This is truly a dark day.

The assault weapons legislation has worked. No legal owner has been denied a weapon. No weapon has been confiscated. Yet the supply of these weapons on the streets has declined. But come next week, companies will once again begin to churn out large-capacity ammunition devices and powerful, easily concealed military weapons, all for civilian use.

One advertisement now running in gun magazines is from a company called ArmaLite. In the ad, ArmaLite is offering a coupon for a free flash suppressor for anyone who buys one of their guns. A flash suppressor is used to prevent the flash of the gun when it is fired. So if you are using it, no one can see where you are, particularly at night, by the flash of the weapon.

The advertisement says: "And by the way … ArmaLite's rifles are made to be easily retrofitted with your flash suppressor and your other pre-ban features so you don't have to wait if you're choosing an ArmaLite."

That is what we are up against: flash suppressors for votes. It makes me sick to my stomach.

The ad states: "It is not legal to install this on a post-ban rifle until the assault weapons ban sunsets."

A recent study by the Consumer Federation of America found that companies are also gearing up to manufacture large-capacity ammunition clips.

One manufacturer told a caller from the Consumer Federation that there is a pent-up demand for 50-round magazines and larger.

Who needs a 50-round magazine? Hunting laws in every state restrict the number of bullets in a magazine to fewer than 10.

It is clear that time has run out. It is clear the president of the United States will not help, and this is truly a sad day for this nation.


Dianne Feinstein, a Democratic U.S. senator from California, is the chief sponsor of the renewal of the assault weapons ban. This article is adapted from comments made Tuesday on the Senate floor.
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[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 6:16:09 AM EST by Gloftoe]

Originally Posted By FRIZ:
The Los Angeles Times
September 10, 2004

Gun Profits for Votes: It's Enough to Make You Sick
By Dianne Feinstein

...snip...
One manufacturer told a caller from the Consumer Federation that there is a pent-up demand for 50-round magazines and larger.

Who needs a 50-round magazine? Hunting laws in every state restrict the number of bullets in a magazine to fewer than 10.

It is clear that time has run out. It is clear the president of the United States will not help, and this is truly a sad day for this nation.


Dianne Feinstein, a Democratic U.S. senator from California, is the chief sponsor of the renewal of the assault weapons ban. This article is adapted from comments made Tuesday on the Senate floor.


Whatever, bitch. Been to Texas recently? Read our hunting regulations? I can go hunting with a goddamn Beta mag if I want. Just another one of her lies.

ETA: ETH always beats me to the good points
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:15:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By FRIZ:
Who needs a 50-round magazine? Hunting laws in every state restrict the number of bullets in a magazine to fewer than 10.





Who needs a car thatn can go faster than 75 mph? Speeding laws in every state (practically) restricts the speed limit to less than 75 mph.




Why not spend your efforts on banning something that's REALLY dangerous, like fast cars? (see how much luck you have with that, bitch! )
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:16:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
It's not about hunting, it's about freedom



+1
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:18:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:19:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By DOA:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It's not about hunting, it's about freedom



+1




ditto!
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:20:22 AM EST
Stop BSing them, the liberals!!
Its not about hunting!! It Never Was!!
Its about being able to RESIST an OPPRESIVE government!!!!!
Its about FREEDOM!!! Thats what freedom is!!
Its not called the BILL OF PRIVILEDGES, its called the BILL OF RIGHTS.
(How nice of them to ALLOW us the PRIVILEDGE of owning Weapons.)
It was purchased with American lives shooting personally owned arms
and inked in the blood of OPPRESSION.
What garantee will we have that the government won't RULE us when guns are banned?
Thier word?
We RULE the government, or at least thats what our FOUNDING fathers intended.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:24:37 AM EST
We as citizens are SUPPOSED to be the ULTIMATE check on the BALANCES.
What do we do when the government REFUSES to do as WE THE PEOPLE say?
1776

Look it up.

How are we supposed to protect freedom? Rocks? Words? Against an oppresive regime?

Yeah that works.

So go away LIBERALS and WEAK CONSERVATIVES. Tell the truth. Its about RIGHTS!!!

Gun ownership is a RIGHT. We should not have to ASK to own a gun(Permit/registration).

When will we stand up and say NO to the government that is trying to RULE us?

Let it stop here with this ban. Vote. Its the first step of REVOLUTION. When Voting no longer matters, then you take the next step.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:29:19 AM EST



Gun Profits for Votes: It's Enough to Make You Sick
By Dianne Feinstein
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That is what we are up against: flash suppressors for votes. It makes me sick to my stomach.




I see this as a GOOD thing.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:39:07 AM EST
There just all pissed because the American People are getting some of their Freedom back and they're not as "in control" of us. These damn left wing jerks want to control every aspect of out lives, what we eat, what we drive, what we can shoot and hunt with, what we watch on TV, but it's all total bullshit because they're not going to control me and from what I've seen on this board there are alot of others that feel the same way. WE are FREE people and we'll live and die free, I'm more then willing to die for my freedom, is Fineswine and her ilk ready to die for their believes? I'd bet not.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 6:43:47 AM EST
New York this L.A. that... Fuckem... they lost this one.... I give a rats fuck what some dipshit in Cali or New York says... 2 weeks from now there will be something else for the media to yak about and this will all be forgoten..
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