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Posted: 7/21/2004 10:16:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:18:09 AM EST
Are you saying the ARmy is stupid?


SGtar15
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:23:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 10:25:09 AM EST by Charging_Handle]
WTF?

Is this just something for limited use or what? The only HK firearm I thought were were looking at was that XM8 contraption.

I must say I prefer the looks of this weapon 10x over the XM8. But I don't get this at all.

Or is this just a joke altogether? With all the modular stuff we use, I don't see where you'd put it on that weapon.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:25:17 AM EST
They took "gullible" out of the dictionary too.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:25:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 10:33:13 AM EST by AZ-K9]


Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:26:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:26:31 AM EST
Boy, that would be great for shooting cats trespassing in my yard!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:27:25 AM EST
linkie no workie...


ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:27:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
They took "gullible" out of the dictionary too.



No, they didn't! Liar!
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:27:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
WTF?

Is this just something for limited use or what? The only HK firearm I thought were were looking at was that XM8 contraption.

I must say I prefer the looks of this weapon 10x over the XM8. But I don't get this at all.

Or is this just a joke altogether? With all the modular stuff we use, I don't see where you'd put it on that weapon.



+1

Please say this isn't a horrible, tasteless joke.

Why are all our weapons suddenly being designed by Germans and built by Germans? Don't we have US designed and produced weapons for OUR US ARMY?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:28:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 10:34:38 AM EST by HKocher]
The HK33/93 series was a total waste of space IMHO. I sold mine in record time.



*edited to add... I did always want an HK53 though.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:31:50 AM EST
Likely a joke. Twenty years ago it might have been true. But with modern requirements for weapons, this one just doesn't seem to have the goodies needed to mount all that stuff on.

Still, I would love to have one of those for my personal collection since my requirements are different than the US Army's.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:34:33 AM EST
Latest reports indicate H&K is unable to meet the US made requirements, so production will be contracted to Special Weapons.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:36:48 AM EST
When did the army decide that the M16 was not any good????????????????????????????????
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:37:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 10:44:29 AM EST by Da_Bunny]
Group Buy?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:37:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPR-Mk12-Mod0:

Why are all our weapons suddenly being designed by Germans and built by Germans? Don't we have US designed and produced weapons for OUR US ARMY?



What do you mean "suddenly"? US Army carried Krag-Jorgensen (Swedish), Springfield (a German Mauser to all extent and purposes), MP-5 (Germans), FN made M-16s, FN made M-249 and M-240 (Belgians).
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:39:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:39:25 AM EST
I last slept over 25 hours ago. I actually thought this was serious for a bit, until I read the "fire control" designations. LOL. I need to stay away from here when I am a zombie. Gotta stay sharp when around this crew.

I bet the US Air Force will be buying Mirage's and Rafael's by next week too.

Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:41:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 10:50:38 AM EST by I-M-A-WMD]

By AZ-K9: YOU DESERVE A SEIZURE FOR YOUR POSTS


Sure, but what did I do to deserve one Man that fricken thing is making me WoOzY! Turn it off, TURN IT OFF!!! For the sake of the children, just please turn it off!!!

Sly

ETA: I thought the joke was funny, I can't see how anyone missed the selector designations. But the write up had me going for a second, till I read the designations...

ETA2: For Spelling, AZ-K9's flashing post is HAS still got me messed up.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:42:25 AM EST
If you gold plate a turd and put "HK" on it, it's still a turd.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:44:46 AM EST


Broken link? S / U / O selector? Photographed on somebody's tile kitchen floor?

It's a joke people. It isn't true. Calm down.

Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:47:07 AM EST
Steyr, I think you may have been a little too subtle for this board.


For what it's worth, I got a good laugh though.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 10:50:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 11:11:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 11:12:34 AM EST by 95thFoot]

Originally Posted By HRoark:
Steyr, I think you may have been a little too subtle for this board.



"Wassamatta- am I too deep fer you people?!"- Rodney Dangerfield


For what it's worth, I got a good laugh though.


Link Posted: 7/21/2004 11:19:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 11:22:04 AM EST by osprey21]
Is that a Malaysian contract trigger pack ?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 11:26:36 AM EST
Personally, I'm glad the "Unload" and "Ooooooooah" positions are in red so everybody will know that is when the gun fires.



Link Posted: 7/21/2004 12:02:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 12:05:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hawkeye:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:






I'm thinking you guys should have a second look at the trigger pack designations.




I'm thinking its OBVIOUS how many people actually READ the entire post, and then COMPREHENDED what they read.





I noticed the same thing.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 12:07:09 PM EST
Until I saw the trigger pack, I thought this was serious. As soon as I gazed upon the letters "S-U-O," I realized this man is BSing.

I should have at least figured this rifle would take STANAG magazines...
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 12:12:37 PM EST
Reading Comprehension on ARFKOM, 20%

Pretty funny, it would be too cool to pick up some contractor overruns for AR prices though.
I would have to switch out the trigger groups however.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 1:07:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
WTF?

Is this just something for limited use or what? The only HK firearm I thought were were looking at was that XM8 contraption.

I must say I prefer the looks of this weapon 10x over the XM8. But I don't get this at all.

Or is this just a joke altogether? With all the modular stuff we use, I don't see where you'd put it on that weapon.



it's a joke...
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:21:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:26:37 PM EST
WTF is S-U-O? And the German Army don't use HK33s and never did.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:29:34 PM EST
You know, if you go to the CENTCOM page, they have a logo for operation enduring freedom.

it's a bunch of flags, all in the shape of an eagle. The IMI / Magnum Research Eagle!!!!!!!


Maybe Vulcan Arms can help Special Weapons with the contract overruns???
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:39:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:44:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 3:44:37 PM EST by 1776]
I used to get to shoot the 33 on a semi regular basis. I likled it, Nice gun.
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:48:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By Herr_Luger:
WTF is S-U-O? And the German Army don't use HK33s and never did.




You mean a gun dealer on Gunbroker LIED?!? hock.gif


I am shocked. That has never happened before. hich


Yeah well, I don't have any experience with buying guns online. So since it's the internet... no further questions. h.gif
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:49:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Instead of the standard 0-1-20 or S-E-F trigger pack usually encountered on HK rifles the US Army Rifle HK33A (Army) has a S-U-O lower. The designations are as follows:

S - Stupid (Safe)
U - Unload (Semi Automatic)
O - Ooooooah (Full Automatic)




Oh holy crap... oh holy crap... I *rarely* laugh out loud to funny stuff but this had me screamin. Hahahaha!! For a second after looking at the pic I was thinking "SUO?? What is this crap??" "Ooooah" LOL !
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:54:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBL:
If you gold plate a turd and put "HK" on it, it's still a turd.



But you can be sure that then some bunch of internet gunnuts wouold post on a website claiming the "tactical advantage" of those HK marked gold-plated turds over regular turds, and pretty soon there'd be a whole bunch of wannabes in black HK "Gold Turds" (tm) t-shirts and hats pinching off a loaf and looking in the bowl for that yellow glint...
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:55:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 3:57:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:00:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By KBL:
If you gold plate a turd and put "HK" on it, it's still a turd.



But you can be sure that then some bunch of internet gunnuts wouold post on a website claiming the "tactical advantage" of those HK marked gold-plated turds over regular turds, and pretty soon there'd be a whole bunch of wannabes in black HK "Gold Turds" (tm) t-shirts and hats pinching off a loaf and looking in the bowl for that yellow glint...




Yeah, those MP5s really suck.

Any SAS member can tell you they are pure hype.



Huh?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:05:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:12:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/21/2004 4:13:29 PM EST by DScott]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By KBL:
If you gold plate a turd and put "HK" on it, it's still a turd.



But you can be sure that then some bunch of internet gunnuts wouold post on a website claiming the "tactical advantage" of those HK marked gold-plated turds over regular turds, and pretty soon there'd be a whole bunch of wannabes in black HK "Gold Turds" (tm) t-shirts and hats pinching off a loaf and looking in the bowl for that yellow glint...




Yeah, those MP5s really suck.

Any SAS member can tell you they are pure hype.



Huh?




I think KBL was suggesting that HKs are less than deserving of their reputation. You seemed to be in agreement.



Negative! I'm impressed with their high quality and reliable function. Shit that works is always impressive.

I *was* making fun of sycophantic wannabes though.

Can I have an MP5K now?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:15:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:24:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By DScott:

Originally Posted By KBL:
If you gold plate a turd and put "HK" on it, it's still a turd.



But you can be sure that then some bunch of internet gunnuts wouold post on a website claiming the "tactical advantage" of those HK marked gold-plated turds over regular turds, and pretty soon there'd be a whole bunch of wannabes in black HK "Gold Turds" (tm) t-shirts and hats pinching off a loaf and looking in the bowl for that yellow glint...




Yeah, those MP5s really suck.

Any SAS member can tell you they are pure hype.



Huh?




I think KBL was suggesting that HKs are less than deserving of their reputation. You seemed to be in agreement.



Negative! I'm impressed with their high quality and reliable function. Shit that works is always impressive.

I *was* making fun of sycophantic wannabes though.

Can I have an MP5K now?




Gotcha, carry on.

MP5k run about $14k how many did you want?




I'll let you know when I leave the PRK...


What does S//U/O stand for, anyway?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:25:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
www.centcom.mil/Operations/ Iraqi_Freedom/hkrifle.asp

Seeking a replacement for the venerable M16 platform rifle the US Army has finally adopted a US Army specific variant of the Heckler & Koch 33 (5.56 Nato) rifle. HK designed this variant specifically for the US Army along the sames lines as the US Navy MP5N (Navy) model. The rifle was finally adopted after evaluations in the extreme environments of the Middle East and outperformed the HK G36 and HK M4 models which were also under consideration for adoption.

groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgAAAD0UPLz9*xIBNw4V*eQrZFyjp2ubVQdqcdKlh8Bj­GbBO9veJm9veXqlMM0VLQdR3871QW76r4mZQ7Z6CdLtqH­JiqLUKF2tMpdqjlUAY/Dcp_2468.jpg

The variant differs from the standard HK33 rifle in that a 40 round magazine is now standard, replacing the 20 and 30 round magazines and the trigger pack is specifically configured for US Army forces.

groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgA2Az4Uebz9*xIBNw4V*V4M4Jem279XYX5Oexa1BZBI­VUpXp4zVuAYU3Si!TeMRYezR7JP!HehdJ8W6QbKX16Tnu­DcqWNjYCPQc9b9YSIQ/Dcp_2469.jpg

Instead of the standard 0-1-20 or S-E-F trigger pack usually encountered on HK rifles the US Army Rifle HK33A (Army) has a S-U-O lower. The designations are as follows:

S - Stupid (Safe)
U - Unload (Semi Automatic)
O - Ooooooah (Full Automatic)

It is hoped that these new designations are useful in conveying to proper mindset to US Army forces serving in hostile envirnoments of the Middle East where they are currently operating.



Is the post ban Vector 33? If so how much?
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:34:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
You are correct however, the German Army used the G3 and not the HK33. The HK33 was used by German Law Enforcement.



Germany is a federation, so there was/is different equipment for every state/federal police force. For that matter, the HK33 was never used by any federal police unit, and I'm not too sure about state level forces.

Military style high-powered weapons are being frowned upon for use in regular police units. MP5s everywhere, but that's about it, except for SWAt teams of course.

The PC factor still plays a major part. For example, the HK21 (G8) used by the Bundesgrenzschutz (Federal Border Guard) is a 'multi-purpose rifle', not a machinegun. hy.gif
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 4:42:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/21/2004 5:05:47 PM EST
BUMMER!
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 7:07:23 PM EST
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