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Posted: 9/13/2004 11:08:40 PM EST
On another forum, some guy (i wont call him a kid cos hes only 1 year younger than me) called for help.

He has depression and sees his life as worthless because he doesnt have a girlfriend and he says hes got acne, a bad back etc.

I gave him my msn so we could talk but nothing is working.

Any ideas?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:10:18 PM EST
Tell him it's a phase of life, because every teenager goes through it. Tell him to get some Proactiv for the zits.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:10:37 PM EST
The world needs ditchdiggers (and ugly people) too.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:12:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Burley:
The world needs ditchdiggers (and ugly people) too.



Sounds like he can't dig a ditch 'cause of his bad back. Maybe he could hold the stop sign.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:12:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:

He has depression and sees his life as worthless because he doesnt have a girlfriend and he says hes got acne, a bad back etc.

Any ideas?



Uh is his bad back like a serious handicap? If it is then I honestly don't know how you can talk to someone like that

The other stuff can be remedied.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:12:52 PM EST
He has his whole life ahead of him, tell him to cowboy up and try to be a man in training.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:16:11 PM EST
Seek professional help. This is nothing for an amateur. Here in the USA, there is mental health coverage in our medical insurance, I don't know how they do it in the "Land down under." Good luck.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:16:17 PM EST
ok he has "bad joints" and "bad jaw".

Im telling him heaps of people go through it but not working.

I told him itll all change

Told him he has a good future cos hes smart (gets a+ in everything)

etc.

right now im trying to find something he enjoys...
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:17:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By warlord:
Seek professional help. This is nothing for an amateur. Here in the USA, there is mental health coverage in our medical insurance, I don't know how they do it in the "Land down under." Good luck.



He is from the US.

He said he goes to psychs and is on prozac.

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:18:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 11:25:14 PM EST by raven]
I used to get depression a lot too. I kind of straightened out by drinking a lot to numb the pain and basically realizing the fact that my life won't always be happy or satisfying all the time, so you shouldn't expect it to be. And things could be a lot worse.

Is this path for everyone? No. But I hated being on anti-depressants and I haven't felt like blowing my brains out every night for four years, and I don't feel sorry for myself. My life's kind of crummy but it is what it is. And I'm not suicidally depressed and sad all the time like I used to be. In fact, I'd say I'm pretty happy.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:34:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:

Originally Posted By warlord:
Seek professional help. This is nothing for an amateur. Here in the USA, there is mental health coverage in our medical insurance, I don't know how they do it in the "Land down under." Good luck.



He is from the US.

He said he goes to psychs and is on prozac.


Is he overweight, maybe go with him to the local exercising gym? Get him a hobby of some sort, but not shooting though, we've had some problems with kids on psycho-tropic drugs such as Prozac. I think some of the high school shootings involved kids on Prozac.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:49:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 11:50:50 PM EST by twonami]
give the whiner some Zoloft, booze and a gun and see what happens, teens haven't been alive long enough to know that life sucks
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 11:57:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:

Originally Posted By warlord:
Seek professional help. This is nothing for an amateur. Here in the USA, there is mental health coverage in our medical insurance, I don't know how they do it in the "Land down under." Good luck.



He is from the US.

He said he goes to psychs and is on prozac.


Is he overweight, maybe go with him to the local exercising gym? Get him a hobby of some sort, but not shooting though, we've had some problems with kids on psycho-tropic drugs such as Prozac. I think some of the high school shootings involved kids on Prozac.



He goes to the gym already.

I tried finding him a sport to do but he hates them all. I avoided suggesting shooting.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:03:11 AM EST
tell him to stop being pussy and stand up and be a man. Its a dog eat dog world out there and their is no room for the weak
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:12:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 12:15:05 AM EST by TACTICAL]

Originally Posted By repub18:
tell him to stop being pussy and stand up and be a man. Its a dog eat dog world out there and their is no room for the weak



That is a little hard, depression if you have it is a hard thing to control. You have no clue on what he is going through, as you know nothing about him. Save your ignorant comments to yourself.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:20:38 AM EST
Buy him a gun- that always cheers me up.

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:22:22 AM EST
Was he better before he got on the anti-depressants? I seen Zoloft and a few others do bad things to people.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:28:18 AM EST
C'mon guys. This many replies and nobody has said it?

HOOKERS AND BLOW!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:32:39 AM EST
My ex wife is bi-polar manic depressive; she has been on everything I can think of since she was 14. Zoloft, Prozac and Lithium all made her 100000000000000000000 times worse. It took a few years, but getting her off of all anti depressant drugs finally got her even, she still has her bouts on bad days, but fuck all the drugs, they make things worse.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:34:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By rainman:
C'mon guys. This many replies and nobody has said it?

HOOKERS AND BLOW!!!



He is 17....
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 1:30:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:

Originally Posted By rainman:
C'mon guys. This many replies and nobody has said it?

HOOKERS AND BLOW!!!



He is 17....




Perfect age for H&B...!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 1:42:30 AM EST
Hes an A+ student? Tell him he has the potential to make more money than all his friends combined. All that other shit doesn't matter.

17? Ok, forget the blow.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 1:51:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By rainman:
Hes an A+ student? Tell him he has the potential to make more money than all his friends combined. All that other shit doesn't matter.

17? Ok, forget the blow.



I told him to get an education which will get him a good job which means a job he enjoys and money

Then he says great, then I can have women chasing me for my money and other negative responses...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 2:09:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:24:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
On another forum, some guy (i wont call him a kid cos hes only 1 year younger than me) called for help.

He has depression and sees his life as worthless because he doesnt have a girlfriend and he says hes got acne, a bad back etc.

I gave him my msn so we could talk but nothing is working.

Any ideas?



Well, shit!
I haven't had a girlfriend in um....well, let's just say a very long time.
I have bad knees as one of my gifts from the Corps. Back isn't all that great anymore either. Wake up every morning so stiff I can barely move. Loosens up after a shower though.
Had acne problems when I was younger also. Many people do.

I guess if that's all it takes to have a crappy life, then I've got one of the worst around because those things are what I consider petty crap.

Tell this guy to chill out and get some perspective. No one is living the "perfect" life. No one ever will. We each have challenges to overcome. It's HOW you deal with those challenges that matters.
Sort of "What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger" kind of thinking.
Telling him to volunteer was a very good suggestion. When you see people FAR FAR worse off than you are, you begin to realize that things like not having a girlfriend are such minor petty things that they really aren't worth the effort to feel bad about it. Besides it sounds to me like he has a self defeating attitude. Girls aren't attracted to that. So carrying around all these negative feelings is only hurting his cause if that's what he's looking for.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:26:11 AM EST
Tell him to deal with it...

All you kids are fucked in the head.


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:29:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 3:29:47 AM EST by skid2964]
Sounds like typical teenage low self esteem issues. Minor now, but can turn bad if not taken care of now. He is measuring his self-worth by his complexion and love-life.... he needs to somehow learn that those things do not establish who he is. Have you searched any other mental health forums? Search for teen low self esteem or co-dependancy.

Our advice is to go blast a couple 30 rounds mags thru an AR and call us in the morning.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:31:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 4:50:11 AM EST by BayEagle]
Show him this:



ETA- Gates is the uber-dork on the bottom left
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:44:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By TACTICAL:
My ex wife is bi-polar manic depressive; she has been on everything I can think of since she was 14. Zoloft, Prozac and Lithium all made her 100000000000000000000 times worse. It took a few years, but getting her off of all anti depressant drugs finally got her even, she still has her bouts on bad days, but fuck all the drugs, they make things worse.



That's because antidepressants will often throw a Bipolar (the old term is Manic Depressive) person into mania and make things much, much worse. A good practitioner would know that.


The kid needs professional help. No matter what you say or do, if he decides to cash out you don't need that weight on your shoulders.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:11:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:31:41 AM EST
Get him off the acne medicine! Prescription acne meds cause severe depression. My boy fought depression for several years. Bad grades, bad relationships, you name it.
We got him off the meds and got our kid back. He has been accepted into the USCG, passed all the tests with very high marks.
The stuff he was on did not declare depression as a side effect either. However, some of these meds have contributed to documented suicides in teens. Bad stuff IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:36:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By twonami:
give the whiner some Zoloft, booze and a gun and see what happens, teens haven't been alive long enough to know that life sucks



Depression is a very serious thing. A girl I dated in high school for several years suffered from depression. Unless you know what you're looking for you don't recognize the symptoms. Long story short, she hit the bottle one night and capped herself. I was the one who found her.

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:36:33 AM EST
Buy him alot of porn and tell him to get used to it. And quit acting like a girl.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:47:23 AM EST
first off depression is serious stuff and a number of you folks making fun of it is sick. when i was a teen i had some issues but rather than be depressed i found others who were quite a bit like me and we were considered misfits but we supported each other and as an added plus it meant that we had friends.

thats what this kid needs and by looking for it online he is missing the whole world. if he is on acne meds, that can seriously mess someone who is going through this kids issues.

youre out of your league if this kid is hiding out and telling people he is depressed online.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:02:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By 2gun:

"youre out of your league if this kid is hiding out and telling people he is depressed online."



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