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Posted: 1/17/2015 1:52:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 2:13:58 AM EST by DoubleTaps]
So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime.

So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder.

She said no.. I say yes.

This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact.

Could you help or disprove this?

What is the most correct answer?


ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!!

She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke.

BJ to follow.. NO PICS.. lol
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:53:39 AM EST
Yes
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:54:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 1:55:36 AM EST by Ir0nbunny]
correct, too tired to cite tho

there was a story i remember a few months ago, where some guy was waving an unloaded gun around in a bar.

cops shot him, some bullets missed, one struck and killed a woman.

perp (waver of unloaded firearm) survived and was charged with murder
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:55:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stocklx:
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Felony murder.

Wiki link
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:55:22 AM EST
FPNI
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:56:17 AM EST
It all depends on the state.

We have rules.....


Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:57:09 AM EST
It's called "felony murder" and yes, you're correct.

It goes even further. If the two of you were robbing a store, and the clerk has a heart attack and dies, you could both be charged with felony murder (i.e. first degree murder) as well. See, e.g., http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/30/robber-charged-with-murder-after-elderly-lady-has-heart-attack/
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:57:56 AM EST
I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:58:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 1:59:38 AM EST by Sodie]
Yes, and this is probably why the piece of crap that was stealing cigarillos with Mike Brown immediately told a lie about the shooting. "He shot him in the back with his hands up!"

He in Cali, if anyone dies while committing/fleeing a crime, the surviving criminal can be charged with the death even if it was a cop that killed him.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:59:02 AM EST
Pics of your girl are required to formulate a legal opinion.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:59:28 AM EST
Brotha, I would, but this pastt thanksgiving I posted her titties on here.. Through aarchtan, they could be seen. I can't post her face here bc if two and two, and Plus her career could be jepordized..

Hint hint, I bet he still had the pic of tits and an SP1 barrel..

PM him..
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:00:54 AM EST
In before some dumbass says "once we see pics I can tell you if she's right"
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:01:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LinggrrLonggrr:
In before some dumbass says "once we see pics I can tell you if she's right"
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Not so much, look two posts above yours.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:07:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 2:10:30 AM EST by bob1946]
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Originally Posted By rbb2:
It's called "felony murder" and yes, you're correct.

It goes even further. If the two of you were robbing a store, and the clerk has a heart attack and dies, you could both be charged with felony murder (i.e. first degree murder) as well. See, e.g., http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/30/robber-charged-with-murder-after-elderly-lady-has-heart-attack/
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Some states take it so far as to charge drug dealers who sold drugs to someone who then ODs, with murder.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/crime-and-courts/3657387-3-women-charged-murder-polk-county-after-drug-overdose-woman
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/08/drug-dealers-charged-in-overdose-death/15280295/
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article2486235.html
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/08/in_gentilly_heroin_overdose_no.html

Which could lead to difficult questions such as if a drug dealer just selling drugs is potentially committing murder with every sale wouldn't anyone shooting them to stop them from selling drugs be legally defending another?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:07:47 AM EST
Yes. It is possible...
Guilt on this forum is determined by rules. PM me said pic, and I will make my ruling.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:11:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ar154all:
Yes. It is possible...
Guilt on this forum is determined by rules. PM me said pic, and I will make my ruling.
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I deleted it from my files, as I get to play with them D tits everyday.

Aarchtan is who you need to hit up.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:11:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 2:19:41 AM EST by 1extremeGTO]
Here is a thread from yesterday ,I think, that talks about it. Thread
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:16:48 AM EST
Here is a recent example.

Now go learn some grammar and how to type for fuck's sake.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:17:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By reyloxdm40:
I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases.
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Nope. Felony murder. The justification for the sentence is that the death would not have happened if the crime hadn't been committed.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:18:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:
So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime.

So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder.

She said no.. I say yes.

This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact.

Could you help or disprove this?

What is the most correct answer?


ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!!

She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke.

BJ to follow
.. NO PICS.. lol
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That'll probably be enough to get the taste out of your mouth.

Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:19:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By rbb2:


Not so much, look two posts above yours.
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Originally Posted By rbb2:
Originally Posted By LinggrrLonggrr:
In before some dumbass says "once we see pics I can tell you if she's right"


Not so much, look two posts above yours.


snort!
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:32:11 AM EST
You never win proving a girl wrong OP.... never!

- Clint
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 2:42:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:



I deleted it from my files, as I get to play with them D tits everyday.

Aarchtan is who you need to hit up.
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:
Originally Posted By ar154all:
Yes. It is possible...
Guilt on this forum is determined by rules. PM me said pic, and I will make my ruling.



I deleted it from my files, as I get to play with them D tits everyday.

Aarchtan is who you need to hit up.

One of these days..... I'll have to spring for the team membership again
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:40:54 AM EST
Yeah, here's a current case:

TL;DR: 5 yoots commit burglary, homeowner shoots 1, other 4 get 50 yrs for felony murder.


http://freetheelkhart4.com


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-drizin/the-elkhart-four_b_4034052.html
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:43:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
You never win proving a girl wrong OP.... never!

- Clint
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The only way to win is not to play.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:10:57 AM EST
I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:21:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:
So we are sitting here discussing by association crimes and it came up the subject of death with a violent crime.

So I said, to her, if i was with you and we robbed a store together and I got shot, she could be charged with 1st degree murder.

She said no.. I say yes.

This is true correct? I have seen it happen however I can't provide examples of this fact.

Could you help or disprove this?

What is the most correct answer?


ETA: Thanks to you guys she backed down and said she was wrong!!

She apologized and is at this moment 2313 pac time, refilling my Jack and coke.

BJ to follow.. NO PICS.. lol
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I think the bigger news is your wife said sge was WRONG and APOLOGIZED Last statement from my wife like that was in 1990 We weren't married then
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:19:18 AM EST
The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won.

Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 8:47:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 9:02:35 AM EST by FrankSymptoms]
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:


Nope. Felony murder. The justification for the sentence is that the death would not have happened if the crime hadn't been committed.
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Originally Posted By reyloxdm40:
I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases.


Nope. Felony murder. The justification for the sentence is that the death would not have happened if the crime hadn't been committed.

Let me clarify (and CMA): This is a POSSIBLE sentence . Most any lesser sentence is possible, too, depending on the court's guidelines, which will vary from one location to another.
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won.

Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP.
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
The only thing worse than a war lost is a war won.

Don't start no shit won't be no shit OP.

In a family argument, if it turns out you are right--apologize at once!

Lazarus Long
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:02:33 AM EST
Rules, dude
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:04:00 AM EST
It's funny how the op thinks he "Won".
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Originally Posted By scottzilla:
It's funny how the op thinks he "Won".
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This
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This
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Originally Posted By GrandfatherCoyote:
Originally Posted By scottzilla:
It's funny how the op thinks he "Won".


This

I think it's cute.

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Originally Posted By scottzilla:
It's funny how the op thinks he "Won".
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If he got his drink filled and his wife performed the BJ for him, I'd venture he did...
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:46:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 9:51:34 AM EST by Bigshot64]
Wait.


I'm pretty sure there was an exception to a co defendant.

If the "clerk" of the store was killed, it's felony murder. But if s co conspirator is killed it wasn't ?

I remember this from bar prep but in my practice now I have never ran into it.


After I passed the bar I threw all of my bar prep away so I have no clue if I'm remembering correctly. In wv (at least), it seems that if anyone is killed during the commission of a felony A charge of felony murder can be triggered.
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Originally Posted By Bigshot64:
Wait.


I'm pretty sure there was an exception to a co defendant.

If the "clerk" of the store was killed, it's felony murder. But if s co conspirator is killed it wasn't ?

I remember this from bar prep but in my practice now I have never ran into it.


After I passed the bar I threw all of my bar prep away so I have no clue if I'm remembering correctly. In wv (at least), it seems that if anyone is killed during the commission of a felony A charge of felony murder can be triggered.
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This may change from state to state.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:14:28 AM EST
OP,
Did you really win!?? You REALLY think so!!??? LOL

BTW, you ARE correct... in most free states anyway.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:16:42 AM EST
Felony Murder
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Originally Posted By pvc1984:
I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now?
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Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha

Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out!

She's a keeper..
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:


Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha

Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out!

She's a keeper..
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:
Originally Posted By pvc1984:
I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now?


Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha

Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out!

She's a keeper..



Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:57:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:


Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha

Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out!

She's a keeper..
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Originally Posted By DoubleTaps:
Originally Posted By pvc1984:
I bet it was one helluva toothy BJ. So who's the real winner now?


Lol.. At least I got one right! Did you get a BJ whilst sipping the nectar of the gods?? Didn't think so.. Haha

Anyway, she apologized again this morning, put her butt plug in, made me pancakes and then fucked ma brains out!

She's a keeper..


Sounds like a keeper.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:06:34 PM EST
Well was it worth it?
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Did I miss the girls pic?





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Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well was it worth it?
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Yeah she's always worth it..
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:16:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By reyloxdm40:
I believe it would probably be second degree murder or maybe even manslaughter in most cases.
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All depends on the individual state Statutes
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:44:59 PM EST
There were no pics
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