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Posted: 9/14/2004 3:41:27 PM EST
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - ?
Pistol - ?
How much ammo

Thanks for your help
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:44:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr:
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - ?
Pistol - ?
How much ammo

Thanks for your help



I count three guns...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:45:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr:
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - ?
Pistol - ?
How much ammo

Thanks for your help



Armalite ar-10, remington 870 (or 11-87), kimber 1911, ande a ruger MKII .22
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:47:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 3:48:20 PM EST by Steve_T_M]
I'd concentrate on mags for your AR10 and leave the extraneous accessories off.

Shotgun - Winchester 1300 Defender

Pistol - something you're comfortable with but I recommend a revolver as 1st handgun. Depends on how much experience you have with them. S&W 686 w/4 inch barrel is a good choice - start out shooting light .38 loads and move up to .357 eventually.

Also get a .22 rifle. Most are good. CZ makes a nice bolt gun.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:47:20 PM EST
You need more.

AR10

AR15

870

10/22

Ruger MkII

1911

Bolt gun.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:48:54 PM EST
Shotgun: Remington 870 with 18" bbl and mag extension

Pistol: Options are WIDE open... depends on what you like and what caliber. Glock 17/20/22/19/23, Sig P220, HK USP, Beretta, Springfield XD, or 1911. You'll have to make this decision for yourself because there are way too many variables.

I think you need an AR-15, FAL, or M1A to add to the group.


For the AR-10T just get good optics, a bipod, and enough mags.

You can NEVER have enough ammo.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:50:08 PM EST
Depends on if you want a *real* battery of weapons, or just a collection of fun toys. If for real, my prefs would be the following:

In addition to the AR10, I'd spring for an AR15 (the 16" carbine version in M4gery mode), a Remmy 870 shotgun, and a Glock 17 or 19 with plenty of regular cap. mags.

There is no limit on ammo, at least if you shoot the things.

If not, then you probably need only the Barney Fife load-out of 1 bullet each.

And please be sure and budget for a safe- they're your guns, tjhey depend on you to keep them secure and warm at night.



Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:52:52 PM EST
AR-15 (Now with added evil features)

Remington 870 Marine Magnum

Remington 700 Heavy barrel (P, VS, 5-R) in .308

Kimber Tactical Custom (Series 1)
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:56:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr:
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - something semi-auto Remington 1100-11/87 or Winchester 1300 can be found reasonably cheap, especially if used.
Pistol - 1911 of some sort. Kimber is good brand $800. Springfield makes some reasonable WWII reproductions for $400
How much ammo

Thanks for your help

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:56:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 4:04:50 PM EST by Pangea]
1911 with 2000 rounds and 20+ mags

12 gauge pump with 500 rounds and attached flashlight

Obligatory AR15 A2 configuration with 5000 rounds and 50 mags half 20 and half 30 rounders.

1919A4 or A6 chambered in .30-06 with 5000 rounds already on belts or disentigrating links.

This is a good starting point that covers all bases from run and shoot to forting up.


Yikes! I didn't see the kid on the way part.

Get four of something fun and cheap to shoot and spend the rest on a college fund for the kid.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:57:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr:
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - ?
Pistol - ?
How much ammo

Thanks for your help



Well, since you are a 50 BMG Sniper, I would suggest:

1. Barrett M82A1 with matching optics - $8k
2. Government Property marked M16 (sell the AR10) - $16k
3. Kimber Gold Match with combat night sights - $1k
4. Perrazzi O/U 12 ga with multiple barrells - Since you want a shotgun. Personally, I would replace it with a registered M60 or 1919A1 as the budget would allow. $20k

Mags:
10 Barrett Mags
100 USGI 30 Round mags; 5 Beta C mags
10 Wilson Combat 8 round mags
Lots of links

Ammo:
1,000 rouds Match 50 BMG
5,000 rounds general 50 BMG
25,000 rounds of Q3131A
25,000 rounds of .308

Since you only get 4 guns, you need to think BIG!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:58:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:59:07 PM EST
I would go one of two ways:

1. AR-10, mags, scope & ammo

2. AR-15, red dot optic, mags & ammo - maybe a weapon mounted light, if you are uber tactical.

3. 1911 of some type, mags & ammo

4. Modern DA/SA/DAO/Safe action 9mm of some type, mags & ammo - maybe a weapon mounted light too.

This way you have a long range rifle, short range rifle, classic 1911 and a modern handgun. All of which would be modifiable enough that you wouldn't get board w/them.

OR:

1. AR-10

2. 1911 handgun

3. Modern wondernine

4. Dedicated small CCW handgun

I don't care for shotguns. But that's just me.

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:00:22 PM EST
Benelli Nova in 12 Gauge...HK P7M8...and either a .22 rifle or pistol to round out the AR10T...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:01:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 4:01:57 PM EST by AILapua]
Sure enough, the anti's shall win in the long run, especially when 'we' help their propaganda.

Help me pic a four gun arsenal

What is next, a one gun arsenal?
50bmgsnpr, I mean no flame against you since, I see and hear /read these very same comments on a daily basis from other firearms owners.
This 'IS', social engineering at its best.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:02:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 4:02:52 PM EST by cnatra]

Originally Posted By 50bmgsnpr:
Do to a new kid on the way,I have to restrict myself to four guns in the following order:

Rifle Gas operated - AR-10 T (Have) what accessories ?
Shotgun - ?
Pistol - ?
How much ammo

Thanks for your help




pistol - .45acp 1911

shotgun - Rem870 or Benelli M1S90

and an AR15 carbine should be the 4th gun

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:06:34 PM EST
Hmmmm.....

A good shotty but don't spend a fortune on one. I have a Winchester and a Mossberg and like them, but you will not go wrong with a Remmy 870. Built BETTER than a tank.

A revolver, like the S&W 686 (I have one) is a good option, but you mention that a kid is on the way. You'll eventually have to face the safety factor, and if the revolver is going to be a home/personal defense weapon it has ZERO safety features, other than YOU. The 9MMs are a good first weapon due to ease of shooting and affordability of ammo. And don't listen to the anti-9MM people here-THEY wouldn't want to get shot with one. I have a Browning HiPower and a Beretta 9MM and I like them both and feel safe with both.

An AR model. 'nuff said.

A .22 of some sort, either rifle or pistol. I have Brownings in both as well as Marlin and Glenfield rifles. Cheap, cheap, cheap to shoot, still lots of fun, good training device for that child when he/she comes of shooting age and you can pass it along to them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:08:02 PM EST
Well,

You don't need anything besides a .38 and a .22. Spend the rest on dope and beer.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:12:09 PM EST
Too easy!! 4 guns eh? Thats what my base count is going to be, with a few on the side for fun purposes.

1) SKS. CHEAP, EFFECTIVE, semi-accurate (battle accurate, not paper accurate) and very cheap ammo. Either that or a AR if you have the dough to pony up. More accurate but not necesarily as effective depending on circumstances. Basically, in the hands of a good shooter either one will make you dead at 200 yards. Beyond that range I wouldnt use EITHER one. I'd move to gun #2.....

2) Tikka series. Choose your caliber. 30-06 or .308 most likely. Now me personally, I want a Tikka Hunter in 25-06. Excellent accuracy. Good long range shooting. Stout enough for most North American game. And simply a beautiful and very well respected rifle to boot. And the kicker? Less that an AR. (At my local gun shop)

3) Remington semi auto. You can pick your poison there, in my closet now I have the 1187 and love the thing. Very sharp looking gun, gets the job done. That scattergun and me have put alot of clays and alot of birds into the ground.

4) Tough call on a pistol. On one hand, I love the oomph of the .44 magnum. But its a big pistola. My personal favorite pistol caliber is .357 magnum. I love a .357, its like sex in your hand. So for me, I'd have to choose between a Ruger Security Six in .357 Magnum (hey, I own one, guess I already chose) or a 1911. The .45 is a good gun too. I'd probably go for either a S&W 1911 or a Kimber 1911.

And that would be 4 guns that would stand the test of time and give you a platform for about any possible situation you can imagine.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:14:46 PM EST
don't forget the pellet gun so you can hunt small game without being heard when you live in the boonies after this nation is invaded by illegal aliens from out of space
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:20:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:36:16 PM EST
AR

Rem 700 (in .308 or 30.06, etc)

12 ga pump shotgun (Rem 870, etc)

1911 .45 ACP
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:39:52 PM EST
Rifle: The answer should be obvious-AR15! If you get a .308 I would get an M1A.

Pistol: 1911 and/or HI-POWER

Shotgun: remington 870 or Winchester 1300

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:53:55 PM EST
Savage Model 10 FP-LE .308

M1A

AR-15

XD - .357 SIG

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:57:39 PM EST
bushmaster xm15 carbine w/ car stock
remington 700 pss in .300 win mag
remington 870
m-1911( wilson or kimber)
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:07:13 PM EST
.45acp handgun
.22lr rifle
.308 rifle
12ga pump gun.

in whatever flavors you prefer. You'll always be able to find ammo for them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:09:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:13:42 PM EST by chuckhammer]
- Armalite AR-10(T), Leupold M3 long-range optic, Harris bipod, separate 16" bbl flattop upper, and ten 20-rd mags

- Bushmaster 14.5" M4 flattop (w/permanent Izzy FS), EOTech 551, KAC M4 RAS, vertical foregrip, CQB Solutions SOP sling, and twenty 30-rd mags

- Wilson Combat CQB 5" and ten #47D 8-round mags

- Ruger SP101 3" w/bobbed hammer

Only considering true 2A uses, of course.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:39:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:41:23 PM EST by KeithC]
Hm. Need more info. Is this a "working battery" or a collection of fun guns? For a general, four-gun practical battery, I'd say:

- .22 semi-auto pistol. Fun, good training tool, good for small game, ammo is cheaper than shit and found just about everywhere. Depending on your state laws and state of finances, you can add a can later for extra fun. I went with a Browning Buckmark because it fit my hand better than Ruger's line.

- Centerfire, concealable defensive pistol. Now this one is pretty subjective. Something that is balls-on reliable, accurate, hits hard and can be discrete. If I had to stick with only one, it'd be my Glock 30. I can conceal it well enough... kinda... in most cases... and it's about as accurate as its big brother. Plus it will take the G21s 13-round mags. Plus it's a .45.

- Rapid-firing, high-capacity bullet hose with any many thrusts per squeeze as you can handle . Seriously - centerfire, mag-fed, semi-auto carbine. Fun, practical in the unlikely event of fecal matter impacting the whirly-thingy, helps to educate the fence-sitters and pisses off the uneducable. Depending on your budget (and politics), I'd go SKS, Mini-14, AK-style (I'm liking Robarm's VEPR-k, esp. w/ a side-folder) or AR.

- "Situationally-appropriate long arm". I'd feel better with both a precision/hunting rifle and a shotgun but, if I had to choose one, I'm likely to get more use out of my .30-06 bolt-gun than my 18" Remmy 870. If I was still living in the Bronx, I'd rather the 12gauge. Your call on that. What's fun? What's practical? Got a place to practice distance shooting? Like to shoot skeet? Do you hunt? Yeah... fill in the blank yourself, here.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:44:59 PM EST
For me it would be:

Purpose built AR carbine

Rem 700 in .308

GLOCK 19

Ruger 10/22



Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:49:05 PM EST
Mine pretty much same.

M1A
12 gauge pump
.22 target pistol
.357 wheel gun or a .45


I would just get a good target pistol .22 instead of a .22 rifle.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:55:56 PM EST
Shotgun - Rem 870 (cheap and gets the job done)
Pistol - Quality 1911 (perfect for carry, home defense, hiking, camping, etc)
Rifle - AR? plus lots of mags
You need a .22lr.....cant get by without that...my vote is for 10/22

Ammo? Damn dude....stockpile it....the question isnt "How many rounds"......its "How many square feet of storage"...and then stack it to the ceiling!!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:57:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:59:09 PM EST by lippo]
Percision rifle - AR 10 that you already have, put a good scope on it
Real main battle rifle - FAL or M1A or M1 Garand (You can't go wrong with one of these)
Small arms CQB - AR 15 carbine with aimpoint or EoTech
Pistol - Glock or Beretta in 40 S & W or 1911 (pistol should have night sights or laser/light for dark CQB)

You can always pick up a cheap tactical shotgun later. Might even find one at a garage sale.


Link Posted: 9/14/2004 7:31:03 PM EST
Kimber 1911
Ruger 10/22
Mossberg 590
Garand
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 7:45:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:18:29 AM EST
10/22 with or without a scope
357 mag revolver
AR
M1A
Tons of ammo and mags!
That's the bare minimum for me.
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