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Posted: 6/6/2002 2:34:17 AM EST
I need your input guys. I have to move... I'm currently in a house but I have to move by August and it looks like its apartment time unfortunately. I am worried about my guns and ammo stash in a managed property. What happens if the maintenance guy comes in and sees my stash of 12K .223 ammo among others? Is it possible to hide this stuff in a closet? Is it possible to make my guns dissapear? I am perplexed and worried about what should I do and consequences. I know that the worst that could happen would be me getting evicted but I could get hassled by the local Gendarmes!
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 2:52:23 AM EST
Sounds like you need a gun safe. As far as apartment managers go make sure any regular maintenance incursion into your abode includes a note on the coffe table stating why they were there (most are happy to accommodate such a request provided your polite and express the proper concern without ranting). Then make sure you know when they've entered whether they follow the pre-arrainged notification procedure or not. Mike
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 3:11:32 AM EST
Maybe time to get a storage unit and keep most of your stuff there. You can get it insured and you don't have to worry about anyone comng in and out as you would the apartment! Besides, I like the idea of separating my toys for a whole lotta reasons! Eric The(SuchAsVindictiveEx-WivesAndTheirLawyers)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 3:57:33 AM EST
I don't have any problems. Most of my reloading stuff is on shelves in my bedroom, and I have a little bench thing in the living room with my press on it. Usually have bags of empty shells around, and my tumbler on my dining room table. If it's on a TAAS lease (I think that's the acronym), they can't do shit about you having guns and or ammo. It's also a don't ask/don't tell situation. Put your ammo in boxes, keep it in the closet, and it's noone's business that it's there. It's that simple. If you get a GROUND FLOOR apartment, remember that those ones are the ones broken into more frequenly. A safe would be best for storing your firearms.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 3:58:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/6/2002 8:58:47 AM EST by ilikelegs]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 5:18:17 AM EST
Keep ammo in 30 & 30 cal cans in closet. Other closet has reloading equipment, use stackable plastic containers, each labeled with contents. Easy to get to and out of sight. Use Black&Decker WorkMate for reloading press. Almost all properties in Texas use TAAS lease form and protocols. They must notify you if maintenance or entry is made into your property. Be sure and obtain proper insurance coverage...extra gun coverage is cheap and you do not have to list or declare each gun. Securing and mounting a safe is tricky....this may cause "permanent damage" to wall or floor? Could cause you to lose deposit, etc when you move out. Out of sight works best...so when maintenance guy makes his rounds changing a/c filters, etc he doesn't see your stuff. If you use other secured storage area...make sure it is climate controled. And remember, make sure you use hard cases or nylon cases to move guns from the vehicle to apt, etc. You don't need Ms Grey-Haired busy body calling the local PD about you having an arsenal next door.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 5:24:20 AM EST
Change the locks on your doors, but don't tell management. If they ask later tell them if they need to come in you will escort them around the apartment. I did this when I lived in an apartment for 5 years. They didn't like it but that was the way it was going to be. The manager should be okay with it as long as your nice in telling them. Bill3508
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 5:38:00 AM EST
Come live in my complex. Just about everyone has a gun related sticker on their vehicle around here.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 5:44:32 AM EST
I've had association with apt. mgr's (in-laws) and believe me the will go in you place any time the want. I would suggest a safe or a non descript lockable metal cabinet like a file cabinet etc... Property managers don't go in to snoop but with the alerts and news about explosives being stored I would be very careful. Get a travel trailer if you need something that will be for a short time... FB
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 5:56:43 AM EST
I have been living in apartmens in and around the Houston area since graduating from college in 1982. I have always lived in second story apts. I have pictures of all firearms that I have stored here with serial #'s recorded on the back of the pictures. Ammo is stored out of site as well as any firearms. I worry more about the people watching me load and unload my firearms after a trip to the range. I try to conceal what I am carrying with a large towel etc even if it is in a case. I make sure I know the people that are home during the day and ask them to keep an eye out for my place and I will do the same for them when they are away.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 6:01:54 AM EST
Wouldn't worry about it too much, This is Texas after all. The safe is Always a good idea. I lived in a apt when building the house, and secured them by bolting three pieces of angle iron to the backs in a row. No way in heck is anyone going to move 4 joined gun safes without heavy machinery. You'd be amazed how many guns you can get into a "12" gun safe! For ammo I used one of those plastic truck tool boxes from Walmart. Under 50 $ and lockable. Your bigger threat is burglary. Be sure to check out renters insurance. As an afterthought, What do you have 12K of .223 for? It's not as if they're going to stop making the stuff. You get better by shooting it, not hoarding it.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 8:48:11 AM EST
. As an afterthought, What do you have 12K of .223 for? It's not as if they're going to stop making the stuff. You get better by shooting it, not hoarding it.
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Who said it wouldn't go UP!!!!! I've got 3 tubs of SA and an undisclosed amount of XM193. Besides I lovem my little brass children ;_).
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 9:30:05 AM EST
The last apartment I had my stuff in got "broken into" by the maintenance person. He cleaned me out about $10,000; taking my pre-bans and the rest of my guns and ammo. Of course, he knew nothing about it and there was no sign of forced entry, but he got [u]very[/u] nervous when the cops wanted to talk to him. As far as I've seen, Texas apartment leases don't usually prohibit guns, just the offensive display. My old roommate ratted to the apartment manager that I had guns in my room. They said there's nothing they could do about it, but they moved him to a different unit for "his safety". My advice is to hide your guns as far in your closet as you can hide them, or to put them in boxes, and stash them somewhere out of the way. That's how I've got mine now, and I haven't had any trouble, despite maintenance working in my room from time to time. [(:|)]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 11:05:39 AM EST
I'm sorry, did you say you let an apartment maintenence guy rip you off for 10K in guns??
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 11:24:51 AM EST
I've been living in an apartment with my collection for the last few years. Luckily I have a nice big walk in closet with a steel door. I keep my guns in those Homak/Sentry gun cases bolted to wall studs. It's not the most secure setup, but it works for now. If you can put your stuff in a closet, put a lock on the closet door. Also, if you can, install a deadbolt as well - installation kits are available at any hardware store. I also carry insurance on my collection as well. Also, I know this is hard, but try to keep your gun magazines and related stuff out of sight. That way if management were to go into your apartment without you knowing or someone were to break in, it won't be immediately obvious that there are guns around.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 11:52:02 AM EST
SAFE SAFE SAFE Sorry guys, but, your a fool if you don't have a safe. One upper alone is as much as a good quality safe. Hell, it's worth it just for the piece of mind. I put all my weapons, cameras,lenses, valuables, and as much ammo(in 50cal boxes ) as I can into my safe. It would take a forklift to remove it. On top of that, I have a small digital combo safe that I bolted to the wall on the top shelf of my closet for my EDC guns. There is no place to "hide" your gun. Especially in an apartment. Joe Did I mention a safe?
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 6:29:24 PM EST
Besides I lovem my little brass children ;_).
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BWAHAHA!!! a man after my own heart! CT - why in the hell would you be evicted?????? Don't EVEN worry about that if you're not breaking laws. GET A SAFE.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 6:39:02 PM EST
apt dweller here: Idea . if you get notice they are coming in .. most apt have an access to the attic in the closet(top floor of course) that could be used in a "desprete" measure type thing.. I mean just your weapons nogt the ammo , wieght and all.. just cover the ammo, or box in cardboard boxes.. Mant came in to maine the other day to work on my aircon.. had a perban in an open case on top of the ent. center. Guy came up to me later and asked If I wanted to go to the range.. had more than me! the safe thing too
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 6:47:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By lordtrader: Come live in my complex. Just about everyone has a gun related sticker on their vehicle around here.
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What area of town do you live in? (or, if you don't mind-- what complex?)
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 6:58:02 PM EST
Originally Posted By Joe_556: SAFE SAFE SAFE Sorry guys, but, your a fool if you don't have a safe. I put all my weapons, cameras,lenses, valuables, and as much ammo(in 50cal boxes ) as I can into my safe. It would take a forklift to remove it. There is no place to "hide" your gun. Especially in an apartment. Joe
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Well, then since anyone owning guns in an apartment without a safe is a "fool", maybe you could enlighten me as to how I was supposed to get a forklift up 3 flights of winding stairs into the apartment that I had for only three months. Living in an apartment presents dynamics much different from living in a house. [(:|)]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:00:21 PM EST
why take a bedroom closet door, replace it with a heavier solid door and install a bolt lock on the door? may work to keep them out of the closet.
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:06:46 PM EST
>> Texas apartment leases don't usually prohibit guns, just the offensive display I didn't think it was possible to offensively display a firearm...
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:14:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By PoliticalScience:
Originally Posted By Joe_556: SAFE SAFE SAFE Sorry guys, but, your a fool if you don't have a safe. I put all my weapons, cameras,lenses, valuables, and as much ammo(in 50cal boxes ) as I can into my safe. It would take a forklift to remove it. There is no place to "hide" your gun. Especially in an apartment. Joe
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Well, then since anyone owning guns in an apartment without a safe is a "fool", maybe you could enlighten me as to how I was supposed to get a forklift up 3 flights of winding stairs into the apartment that I had for only three months. Living in an apartment presents dynamics much different from living in a house. [(:|)]
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simple move into mine.. one of mine has elevators... next proplem...
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:17:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By PoliticalScience: Well, then since anyone owning guns in an apartment without a safe is a "fool", maybe you could enlighten me as to how I was supposed to get a forklift up 3 flights of winding stairs into the apartment that I had for only three months. Living in an apartment presents dynamics much different from living in a house. [(:|)]
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Since I moved into my apartment over 3 years ago-- I noticed (and its still there) an apartment with a gun safe on the balcony (2nd floor). Never see the person around though...
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:34:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By Energizer: Since I moved into my apartment over 3 years ago-- I noticed (and its still there) an apartment with a gun safe on the balcony (2nd floor). Never see the person around though...
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Airlift??????? [(:|)]
Link Posted: 6/6/2002 7:43:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By ConfederateTexan:
. Besides I lovem my little brass children ;_).
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Just dont spank them too hard, they cry pretty loud..[:D]
Link Posted: 6/7/2002 2:29:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Tate:
Besides I lovem my little brass children ;_).
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BWAHAHA!!! a man after my own heart! CT - why in the hell would you be evicted?????? Don't EVEN worry about that if you're not breaking laws. GET A SAFE. Actually the TSSA lease says "no explosives" and according to most city firecodes loaded ammo is considered explosive that's why I'm worried about being evicted.
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