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Posted: 1/18/2013 2:54:02 PM EDT
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:55:53 PM EDT
[#1]
TOSHIBA.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:56:40 PM EDT
[#2]
you ask for help, but don't follow rules.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:57:08 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
you ask for help, but don't follow rules.


Rules is rules
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:57:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Sony vaio.
 



My bad 600 bucks then toshiba but will be slow.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:57:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
you ask for help, but don't follow rules.


Rules is rules


Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:58:10 PM EDT
[#6]
I would go with a netbook and then get a USB 10 key thing. You can get a netbook for under $300. I have an ASUS and love mine. Small light (not a tiny keyboard), awesome battery life.

No complaints and it ran me $319 on amazon.com.

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:58:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Here I am!!!


Oh, damn, I thought you said she needed a lap dance, not lap top


I go back inside big birthday cake now
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 2:59:28 PM EDT
[#8]
For $600? Find one in a color you like, of modern manufacture, with a 10-key. It'll probably be a 17".



Seriously. Don't over think it. Buying laptops isn't like buying guns. They're practically a commodity. If you've got $2,000 to throw down, it's different.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:00:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Sony vaio.  

My bad 600 bucks then toshiba but will be slow.


Add some bucks and do this.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:10:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
For $600? Find one in a color you like, of modern manufacture, with a 10-key. It'll probably be a 17".

Seriously. Don't over think it. Buying laptops isn't like buying guns. They're practically a commodity. If you've got $2,000 to throw down, it's different.


This. When my laptop died two years ago I just went to newegg, sorted by lowest price and bought bought one of the first five. For the lower priced models they're all essentially disposable. I bought a HP Probook then with an i3, its been fine and plently fast (use it for internet, word, MatLab).

I would first narrow down the screen size. You'll be able to find keyboards with the number pad in 15" (mine has it), not sure about smaller.

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:22:51 PM EDT
[#11]
RULES!

how is she going to carry it?? laptop bag or backpack?  How far??  on public transportation?  What is she going to school for??  Larger screen will help out a graphic artist or someone in accounting with large spreadsheets.  Otherwise go with a 15/13inch  Will she use it around the house alot?  On her lap or at a table?  Taking notes in class?  User replaceable battery?

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:26:17 PM EDT
[#12]
All right bastards:



Keep it in BOTD   THanks, mcculver5
Yes, my wife is a friggin hot 38 year old mother of 3.

Thanks for the advice so far, pretty much confirmation of what I suspected. In the low end, the Sony VAIO models are beating Toshiba for specs
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:34:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Very nice.

I'd get anything with at least an i5.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 3:43:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Interesting info in here. My girl needs one too. This is a tag.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 5:50:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Go business class if you want it to last:

Windows 7:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-b5p39ut-aba~7HEWW2W9.htm

Windows 8:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-c6z36ut-aba~7HEWW36C.htm




If you don't mind a refurbished computer you can possibly find one with better specs here: (make sure to choose certified refurbished on the left sidebar, sort from low to high price, 3xxx (3rd gen) intel series processors are preferred)

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&brandid=2801&fid=9399
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 5:53:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Sony vaio.  

My bad 600 bucks then toshiba but will be slow.


A $600 i5 from toshiba or asus would be plenty fast.

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 5:55:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Buy whatever is cheap and on sale.  Replace it in 3 years and don't worry about it.  For school you don't need any sort of "performance".  Laptops get the crap abused out of them just being moved around.



Having said that and having repaired a lot of computers in my day, I don't particularly like the way Toshibas are built.  Just a pain in the ass to work on.  Then again, I haven't disassembled my last 2 laptops.



Last three I have bought were bottom shelf Compaqs and gave me way more than I expected.  



I have a Dell at work that gets dragged around everywhere.  Being a network guy it gets abused.  After 5 years I just had to replace the hard drive after the laptop got dropped.  
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 5:56:29 PM EDT
[#18]
Damn, she needs a Mac.  Once you go Mac, you never go back.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 5:57:00 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
All right bastards:





Yes, my wife is a friggin hot 38 year old mother of 3.

Thanks for the advice so far, pretty much confirmation of what I suspected. In the low end, the Sony VAIO models are beating Toshiba for specs


My God
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:02:33 PM EDT
[#20]
Sony Vaio

Gone with this for 2 kids and Lady Steel No complaints what so ever.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:04:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


I'm going to recommend a Lenovo Thinkpad 500 series.

Get one with a 15" screen, it will have the number pad.

Thinkpads are business class computers, so they're built pretty solid and they come with W7 Pro.

Otherwise, look at refurbished Asus laptops.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:04:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
For $600? Find one in a color you like, of modern manufacture, with a 10-key. It'll probably be a 17".

Seriously. Don't over think it. Buying laptops isn't like buying guns. They're practically a commodity. If you've got $2,000 to throw down, it's different.


15" laptops should have numberpads.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:05:10 PM EDT
[#23]
Flagged for COC violation
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:06:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Go business class if you want it to last:

Windows 7:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-b5p39ut-aba~7HEWW2W9.htm

Windows 8:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-c6z36ut-aba~7HEWW36C.htm




If you don't mind a refurbished computer you can possibly find one with better specs here: (make sure to choose certified refurbished on the left sidebar, sort from low to high price, 3xxx (3rd gen) intel series processors are preferred)

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&brandid=2801&fid=9399


For the love of god, don't buy an HP.

They were awesome when Asus manufactured their parts. Once Asus could make their own laptops, HP dropped them and quality has been subpar since.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:06:41 PM EDT
[#25]
Your 3 children must of been well nourished as infants.

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:09:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Damn, I came back to perv some more and she go bye bye
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:16:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Go business class if you want it to last:

Windows 7:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-b5p39ut-aba~7HEWW2W9.htm

Windows 8:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-c6z36ut-aba~7HEWW36C.htm




If you don't mind a refurbished computer you can possibly find one with better specs here: (make sure to choose certified refurbished on the left sidebar, sort from low to high price, 3xxx (3rd gen) intel series processors are preferred)

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&brandid=2801&fid=9399


For the love of god, don't buy an HP.

They were awesome when Asus manufactured their parts. Once Asus could make their own laptops, HP dropped them and quality has been subpar since.


Business class isn't the same as the garbage that is offered to consumers.  I have an hp elitibook that has been running fine since the fall of 2010, no issues at all.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:19:05 PM EDT
[#28]
Missed it.
 
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:19:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Go business class if you want it to last:

Windows 7:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-b5p39ut-aba~7HEWW2W9.htm

Windows 8:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-c6z36ut-aba~7HEWW36C.htm




If you don't mind a refurbished computer you can possibly find one with better specs here: (make sure to choose certified refurbished on the left sidebar, sort from low to high price, 3xxx (3rd gen) intel series processors are preferred)

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&brandid=2801&fid=9399


For the love of god, don't buy an HP.

They were awesome when Asus manufactured their parts. Once Asus could make their own laptops, HP dropped them and quality has been subpar since.


Business class isn't the same as the garbage that is offered to consumers.  I have an hp elitibook that has been running fine since the fall of 2010, no issues at all.


Sorry, you're probably right. If it's business class it most likely is up to par. I just see HP and run for the hills for the most part.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:27:11 PM EDT
[#30]
TOSHIBA, forget the HP.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:30:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Avoid Lenovo
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:31:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Go business class if you want it to last:

Windows 7:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-b5p39ut-aba~7HEWW2W9.htm

Windows 8:

http://www.provantage.com/hewlett-packard-hp-c6z36ut-aba~7HEWW36C.htm




If you don't mind a refurbished computer you can possibly find one with better specs here: (make sure to choose certified refurbished on the left sidebar, sort from low to high price, 3xxx (3rd gen) intel series processors are preferred)

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb&brandid=2801&fid=9399

The Windows 7 (64 bit) HP ProBook in your link above is the same model I have. I ordered it from Newegg about a year ago and upgraded the memory myself. Honestly, I've beat the living shit out of this laptop for 4-6 days per week for the better part of the year. I usually stuff it into my Kelty pack - bare, no sleeve or cover - right against the stays and with a stack of books and manuals. Still runs like a champ and is reasonably fast even with all the software I'm running. The only thing I dislike is that it uses a tray loading multi-drive instead of a slot type. If I were going to buy another one today I would try to get essentially this same model but with an upgraded cpu (not that I really need faster, but I'm greedy).  

ETA: The 10 key is essential and you will hate life without one.

Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:40:56 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Avoid Lenovo


Let me guess, you had an ideapad?

Thinkpads are really still IBM computers.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:50:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Damn,,,,,,,Did I miss it?
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 6:55:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
All right bastards:



Keep it in BOTD   THanks, mcculver5
Yes, my wife is a friggin hot 38 year old mother of 3.

Thanks for the advice so far, pretty much confirmation of what I suspected. In the low end, the Sony VAIO models are beating Toshiba for specs


Crap day late & a dollar short

I have been a Dell fan for a long time. I always had good customer support and the computers have been very reliable. I bought a Dell for the Mrs. I screwed up and got it with Windows 7 Home. Because I wanted to run older software I should have gotten Windows 7 Pro so I could run in XP mode. I admit, my screw up. Dell had a 30 day return policy./ So I contacted Dell to return and get one with Win 7 Pro. They dragged their feet so long that they sold ALL the Laptops that had Windows 7 Pro on them ( With the exception of the Alienware computers) So now I have to pay another $130 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. My mistake but Dell's customer service  certainly lacked when it came to helping me out. I wouldn't say I'm done with Dell but I'm not happy
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 7:05:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
All right bastards:



Keep it in BOTD   THanks, mcculver5
Yes, my wife is a friggin hot 38 year old mother of 3.

Thanks for the advice so far, pretty much confirmation of what I suspected. In the low end, the Sony VAIO models are beating Toshiba for specs


Crap day late & a dollar short

I have been a Dell fan for a long time. I always had good customer support and the computers have been very reliable. I bought a Dell for the Mrs. I screwed up and got it with Windows 7 Home. Because I wanted to run older software I should have gotten Windows 7 Pro so I could run in XP mode. I admit, my screw up. Dell had a 30 day return policy./ So I contacted Dell to return and get one with Win 7 Pro. They dragged their feet so long that they sold ALL the Laptops that had Windows 7 Pro on them ( With the exception of the Alienware computers) So now I have to pay another $130 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. My mistake but Dell's customer service  certainly lacked when it came to helping me out. I wouldn't say I'm done with Dell but I'm not happy


What would you expect them to do?  If they ran out its not like they can get more.
Link Posted: 1/18/2013 8:37:21 PM EDT
[#37]
First post here.

I bought my lil brother a laptop for christmas from best buy with a full size keyboard and a number pad plus a 17-18" screen, but the only problem is that it has windows 8.  I would highly recommend you get one that has windows 7 instead of the new windows 8 operating system, sorry i cant find the email for the exact model number for his pc.   I would think that any modern laptop from any of the big names HP/dell/ETC would work out nicely for her and if possible i would try to get a extended warranty if it isnt to costly.

You should be able to get a nice laptop for 600 just read up and you/her should be good to go, good luck!
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 6:07:22 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
All right bastards:



Keep it in BOTD   THanks, mcculver5
Yes, my wife is a friggin hot 38 year old mother of 3.

Thanks for the advice so far, pretty much confirmation of what I suspected. In the low end, the Sony VAIO models are beating Toshiba for specs


Crap day late & a dollar short

I have been a Dell fan for a long time. I always had good customer support and the computers have been very reliable. I bought a Dell for the Mrs. I screwed up and got it with Windows 7 Home. Because I wanted to run older software I should have gotten Windows 7 Pro so I could run in XP mode. I admit, my screw up. Dell had a 30 day return policy./ So I contacted Dell to return and get one with Win 7 Pro. They dragged their feet so long that they sold ALL the Laptops that had Windows 7 Pro on them ( With the exception of the Alienware computers) So now I have to pay another $130 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. My mistake but Dell's customer service  certainly lacked when it came to helping me out. I wouldn't say I'm done with Dell but I'm not happy


What would you expect them to do?  If they ran out its not like they can get more.


They didn't have to drag the process out 12 days. If I was smart I would have bought the 2nd computer then returned the 1st one. The way Dell was dragging their feet I was afraid I would be stuck with 2 computers.

Link Posted: 1/19/2013 7:39:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:

Crap day late & a dollar short

I have been a Dell fan for a long time. I always had good customer support and the computers have been very reliable. I bought a Dell for the Mrs. I screwed up and got it with Windows 7 Home. Because I wanted to run older software I should have gotten Windows 7 Pro so I could run in XP mode. I admit, my screw up. Dell had a 30 day return policy./ So I contacted Dell to return and get one with Win 7 Pro. They dragged their feet so long that they sold ALL the Laptops that had Windows 7 Pro on them ( With the exception of the Alienware computers) So now I have to pay another $130 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. My mistake but Dell's customer service  certainly lacked when it came to helping me out. I wouldn't say I'm done with Dell but I'm not happy



Actually you could have just installed any copy of Dell Windows 7 (Pro, Ultimate, etc.) on your laptop for free.  In fact, it will also take any version of Vista or XP, as long as they're Dell OEM.  It's called "Royalty BIOS."  Your license is actually on the motherboard and you didn't need to return it or pay $130 for a retail version of Win7 Pro.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 7:41:17 AM EDT
[#40]
Buy a separate USB pad for the numbers.  10 key SUCKS on all laptops.

Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Link Posted: 1/19/2013 7:44:29 AM EDT
[#41]
I saw an ASUS core i5 at Best Buy for $450 range and it is a newer model of my computer that has been great.Check it out
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 12:35:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Crap day late & a dollar short

I have been a Dell fan for a long time. I always had good customer support and the computers have been very reliable. I bought a Dell for the Mrs. I screwed up and got it with Windows 7 Home. Because I wanted to run older software I should have gotten Windows 7 Pro so I could run in XP mode. I admit, my screw up. Dell had a 30 day return policy./ So I contacted Dell to return and get one with Win 7 Pro. They dragged their feet so long that they sold ALL the Laptops that had Windows 7 Pro on them ( With the exception of the Alienware computers) So now I have to pay another $130 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. My mistake but Dell's customer service  certainly lacked when it came to helping me out. I wouldn't say I'm done with Dell but I'm not happy



Actually you could have just installed any copy of Dell Windows 7 (Pro, Ultimate, etc.) on your laptop for free.  In fact, it will also take any version of Vista or XP, as long as they're Dell OEM.  It's called "Royalty BIOS."  Your license is actually on the motherboard and you didn't need to return it or pay $130 for a retail version of Win7 Pro.


REALLY? Thanks for the heads up. I will look into that. Had Dell told me that it would have saved  alot of grief

The only way to know the licence # is to look at the motherboard?
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 12:46:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Damn,,,,,,,Did I miss it?


Looks like most of us missed an epic pair.

Link Posted: 1/19/2013 12:49:35 PM EDT
[#44]
I also recommend going with a business class laptop if you can find one in your price range.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 12:57:44 PM EDT
[#45]
I am not a fan of HP.



For $600, you should have plenty of options.



Figure out what's most important and start there.



Overall weight vs. screen size and battery life is usually the big one.



I've had 15" laptops for years.  My current Dell is a 14" with an oversized battery and it's still too heavy, IMO.



If I were shopping today with a $600 budget, I'd go for a 13" ultrabook of some sort - thin & light, forget the optical drive.



Here's a Lenovo that's 3.7 pounds, Intel i5, 4GB RAM, 32GB SSD + 500GB HD - for just under $650- shipped.



http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0082PT89E/
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:09:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
I'm not exactly a computing newb, and I can build by own desktop boxes, but my wife needs a laptop for school and I would like to know if anyone can make a recommendation. In the $600 and under range.  It needs a 10 key number pad, and that's the only requirement.

Her old HP blowed up and had a mainboard failure, so no HP if we can help it, unless the consensus is that it was some kind of fluke and they are gtg.


Dell, Toshiba, and Lenovo are the ones you want to consider


Dell (If you go this route, call and order as you can negotiate price down) http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=fncwu17h&model_id=inspiron-15r-5521&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

Toshiba: http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?poid=2000045900

Lenovo: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=457&Code=593124U#Reviews



Out of the options, I'd go Lenovo since it is the lightest and thinnest one, especially considering since it's for a girl
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:10:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
I am not a fan of HP.

For $600, you should have plenty of options.

Figure out what's most important and start there.

Overall weight vs. screen size and battery life is usually the big one.

I've had 15" laptops for years.  My current Dell is a 14" with an oversized battery and it's still too heavy, IMO.

If I were shopping today with a $600 budget, I'd go for a 13" ultrabook of some sort - thin & light, forget the optical drive.

Here's a Lenovo that's 3.7 pounds, Intel i5, 4GB RAM, 32GB SSD + 500GB HD - for just under $650- shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0082PT89E/


That doesn't have a number key pad...
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:15:07 PM EDT
[#48]
I bought an Asus last December 18. So far I'm pretty impressed with it's quality.



I'll never buy another Dell product. They wouldn't honor their own warranty.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:18:37 PM EDT
[#49]
Wait a couple of weeks and buy a surface pro.
Link Posted: 1/19/2013 1:21:01 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
I bought an Asus last December 18. So far I'm pretty impressed with it's quality.

I'll never buy another Dell product. They wouldn't honor their own warranty.


I can say Dell has had the best customer service out of any computer brands out there in my experience. They usually offer the best PC for the best price, except I think in the OP's case he'd be better with a Lenovo cause of weight. I find it hard to believe Dell would not honor their warranty, although I do not find it totally impossible. Maybe you got a bad rep and didn't know how to deal with them.

Asus makes great PCs however I tend to not recommend them to people who aren't familiar with computers as if something goes wrong, their customer service is terrible and their drivers can be problematic.
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