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Posted: 6/9/2010 3:39:43 AM EDT
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I want to try a cheap PVS 14 rail mount and put a digital camcorder on my rifle.
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Posted: 6/9/2010 3:44:46 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather
http://stuntcams.com/shop/mini-camera-police-video-recorder-cam-640x480-res-p-194.html?osCsid=7e1822e9e36280f88208ecd9f658369d edited because they had two models that were so close in appearance I didn't notice. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 3:52:06 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:07:01 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:17:02 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/scorpion-mini-camera-extremely-small-720x480-res-p-118.html How do you wear it? I'm looking for something I can mount on my helmet and also on my carbine. Wouldn't a camera with the lense mounted axially be easier? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:24:52 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:26:33 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? How about personal improvement? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:28:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think you wandered into the wrong website, I will help you find your way out.Quoted: Quoted: i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:30:00 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:33:55 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? and the hammer cometh.. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:35:58 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/scorpion-mini-camera-extremely-small-720x480-res-p-118.html Got any sample video? Looks interesting. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:37:40 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? BAM! A little early in the mornin' to be pissing off the Penguin...see what that gets ya? Nice catch Aimless Bryan |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:38:30 AM EDT
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OP: Thanks for the thread, I had been wanting to ask the same myself. Good info on here.
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:43:24 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? Although you are probably toast, I will respond to this just because I like to help the less fortunate who got the short end of the stick when they were passing out brains. Quite a few of our members here are military and LE. Others simply like to train just like anyone else who wants to improve themself in a martial skill. Pride in the ability to do something better than someone else and the fact the skills could be useful even though you hope you never need them. I am guessing you think all the different martial arts schools around the country should be closed down as well since I doubt anyone will be attacked by ninjas anytime soon? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:46:53 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 That's pretty good video for $10!! Thanks for the link. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:47:46 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? Thanks! To answer the question, I train to improve my gunfighting skills. Does that mean I will or plan to be in a gunfight anytime soon? Probably not, but I ENJOY it and want to get better. In addition to taking classes, training weekly with rgrgordo, I work out everyday. I audited a Pat Rogers course this past weekend and took a lot of pics of friends who were students. They discovered some things they didn't realize they were doing by reviewing the pictures. Then I thought wouldn't a combination of first and second person video be helpful. So even though you can't reply to this ONE TWO BRAVO, there you have it. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:51:24 AM EDT
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I bought one of those video cameras recently, make a couple cycling vids, but haven't had the opportunity to take it to the range yet. It's a really cool piece of gear!
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:57:30 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 wow nice.....to bad they only do paypal. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:58:04 AM EDT
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How do you wear it? I'm looking for something I can mount on my helmet and also on my carbine. Wouldn't a camera with the lense mounted axially be easier? Quoted:
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/scorpion-mini-camera-extremely-small-720x480-res-p-118.html Got any sample video? Looks interesting. I've got it hooked to my mic strap and run it during traffic stops and calls. I went for the optional 8 gig memory card ( vs the standard 2 gig) whic gives you 8 hours of memory, if you don't feel like downloading it every day. Run time on one charge is 2 hours. If you have an old video card it is a bit jerky. Quality is good during the day, ok at night if you have a white light source. No good at without some light source. No, I don't have any sample video I could post. I did run some tests when I first received it, but those are long gone. I'll see about taking a short clip today and posting it for you. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 4:58:49 AM EDT
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damn that video quatiy is nice.
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Posted: 6/9/2010 5:01:28 AM EDT
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I use the VHoldR Contour HD. I mount it to the top the headband on my earmuffs. I really like it. Great quality, really simple to operate, and no cords to get tangled in.
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Posted: 6/9/2010 5:07:11 AM EDT
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I've got it hooked to my mic strap and run it during traffic stops and calls. I went for the optional 8 gig memory card ( vs the standard 2 gig) whic gives you 8 hours of memory, if you don't feel like downloading it every day. Run time on one charge is 2 hours. If you have an old video card it is a bit jerky. Quality is good during the day, ok at night if you have a white light source. No good at without some light source. No, I don't have any sample video I could post. I did run some tests when I first received it, but those are long gone. I'll see about taking a short clip today and posting it for you. No throat take down vids? 
Thanks! I'm wondering how it would perform mounted on my bike. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 5:07:25 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like I hope that you train with your weapons. Video is good feedback for training errors. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 5:09:42 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 Outstanding! That is decent quality video. I have a multitude of uses for that thing at both work and home. -3D |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 6:15:13 AM EDT
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I use the VHoldR Contour HD. I mount it to the top the headband on my earmuffs. I really like it. Great quality, really simple to operate, and no cords to get tangled in.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEFthcvgk8Is that the 1080p or 720p model? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 6:50:19 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? 
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Posted: 6/9/2010 7:03:42 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 Jesus, that's fantastic quality for the price! How'd you mount it on your rifle? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 7:15:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 What type of equipment did you use to mount the camera? |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 7:44:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: What type of equipment did you use to mount the camera? The hatcam mount was made by a friend using a cell phone holster belt clip, angled piece of cutting board and velcro. I don't have it handy for photos. For the rifle, velcro on top of the Eotech.   |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 8:11:01 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at?
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:06:32 AM EDT
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What type of equipment did you use to mount the camera? The hatcam mount was made by a friend using a cell phone holster belt clip, angled piece of cutting board and velcro. I don't have it handy for photos. For the rifle, velcro on top of the Eotech. http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm228/blaculo/guncam.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm228/blaculo/guncam2.jpg Thanks I just ordered 6 of them for me and my buds. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:13:23 AM EDT
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My brother has a small camcorder that has a "bullet camera" extension that can be mounted on a helmet or a 1 inch scope ring. I think its a Samsung camera. Its made for sky diving.
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:15:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: What type of equipment did you use to mount the camera? The hatcam mount was made by a friend using a cell phone holster belt clip, angled piece of cutting board and velcro. I don't have it handy for photos. For the rifle, velcro on top of the Eotech. http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm228/blaculo/guncam.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm228/blaculo/guncam2.jpg Thanks. I'll probably going to get one. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:23:04 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/scorpion-mini-camera-extremely-small-720x480-res-p-118.html How do you wear it? I'm looking for something I can mount on my helmet and also on my carbine. Wouldn't a camera with the lense mounted axially be easier? Ive seen some videos of guys using helmet cams- fucking awesome. Cranium cam shows you what your focusing on and gives you the picture form your perspective rifle cam only shows what you are "pointing" at for training I would just have someone film you, then you can critique your technique what do you want to fix, shot placement, movement, transitions, etc???? That will decide what camera positon |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:54:45 AM EDT
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So can I use a MINI/micro SD card with the Cam?
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:57:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Just roll with it. It's a free country. I'm free to shoot bone stock A2's and Garands, they're free to spend 5K on fancy gizmos. Welcome to America. You may prefer to visit DU. It's to the left. <––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––-DU |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 9:57:51 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/scorpion-mini-camera-extremely-small-720x480-res-p-118.html How do you wear it? I'm looking for something I can mount on my helmet and also on my carbine. Wouldn't a camera with the lense mounted axially be easier? Ive seen some videos of guys using helmet cams- fucking awesome. Cranium cam shows you what your focusing on and gives you the picture form your perspective rifle cam only shows what you are "pointing" at for training I would just have someone film you, then you can critique your technique what do you want to fix, shot placement, movement, transitions, etc???? That will decide what camera positon I plan to take 3rd person video in addition to both head and rifle perspectives. I agree that head perspective is important but so is rifle perspective. When driving the gun hard you can overshoot or undershoot. This is going to sound bad, but I'm not looking for anything specific just ways to maybe get some incremental improvement. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:13:24 AM EDT
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I use the VHoldR Contour HD. I mount it to the top the headband on my earmuffs. I really like it. Great quality, really simple to operate, and no cords to get tangled in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEFthcvgk8I have zero need for a race gun, but darn I sure want one. Even if I never compete. 
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:18:43 AM EDT
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Anyone have experience with the POV.1?
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:26:32 AM EDT
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annnnnnnddd tag
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:31:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I think you wandered into the wrong website, I will help you find your way out.Quoted: Quoted: i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? Whats that sound I hear???? That is the sound of my heart racing like a little schoolgirl... I think I have bro-love for a certain penguin... :sigh:  -V |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:31:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: So can I use a MINI/micro SD card with the Cam? Yes. You need to use a MicroSD card. 2GB will record the entire battery life of the cam (~90 minutes). I use an 8GB. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:31:42 AM EDT
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Thank you aimless
onetwobravo has been giving the .ml guys a bad name and trollng it up. IMO |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:39:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2010 10:47:51 AM EDT
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i've always wondered what Arfcom members "train for" and if they can say what they train like, or if they consider it opsec Hey newcomer, I was asking a serious question. If you really wanted to know, rather than be a troll, you might try asking....just saying. ok, so what do you train for? end of the world? civil war? government take down? zombies? shoplifters at the mall you pull security at? Punkass shoulda trained harder at detection avoidance 
Interesting thread, OP. Kinda thinking of one of these myself. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 11:15:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 Thanks for the info. I've been looking for something to mount to my hat during IDPA. I order one of these and plan on doing velcro on my hat with it. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 11:53:39 AM EDT
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I wear this thing now. Only downside is you need the extra waterproof case if you go out in the weather http://stuntcams.com/shop/mini-camera-police-video-recorder-cam-640x480-res-p-194.html?osCsid=7e1822e9e36280f88208ecd9f658369d edited because they had two models that were so close in appearance I didn't notice. Forget paying $120+ - $14.86 on eBay delivered!!! Link At those prices you can get a couple and try them out. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 11:55:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks! To answer the question, I train to improve my gunfighting skills. Does that mean I will or plan to be in a gunfight anytime soon? Probably not, but I ENJOY it and want to get better. In addition to taking classes, training weekly with rgrgordo, I work out everyday. I audited a Pat Rogers course this past weekend and took a lot of pics of friends who were students. They discovered some things they didn't realize they were doing by reviewing the pictures. Then I thought wouldn't a combination of first and second person video be helpful. So even though you can't reply to this ONE TWO BRAVO, there you have it. I was kind of surprised that he has a military e-mail address, although I don't know hard it is to get those, and I suppose Wesley Clark has one. Using cameras is very common with competitive shooters in IPSC and IDPA. Let's you see problems with your draw stroke etc. I've never used cameras much, but there was a video of me shooting a course of fire at plates with a shotgun at a friend's range. Partway through I had a failure to fire of some kind and cleared what I thought was a jam or something (I rarely shoot shotguns). Striker looked at it and instantly said "short stroke" I had posted a million times about how I had been shooting pump shotguns for decades, had never had a short stroke, thought it was not as likely as some people claim etc I watched it over and over, and sure enough he was right. |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 11:58:23 AM EDT
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I shot these two videos with a $10 spy camera off of ebay and some industrial strength velcro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmiJbtC2Qw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmuxksV29SE Link to $10 spy camera. ––> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spy-Car-Key-Chain-Camera-DVR-Covert-Video-Recorder-/330437656545?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef9e7fe1 Are you firing 22LR, or 223 in those photos? Just curious as it sounds like 22 LR... |
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Posted: 6/9/2010 11:58:51 AM EDT
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I used one of these on a fire helmet before. A Oregon Scientific ATC3K. Not the best quality(pretty good for only ~$70) but with all the water and smoke a really nice camera probably would not have made much difference. It held up well to the heat and water. Memory stick I got for $5 held about 1 hour of the highest quality video. 2 hours on regular. Would be good for white water rafting too.
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