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Posted: 8/21/2017 2:23:49 PM EST
Pope Francis urged political leaders on Monday to defend migrants, saying their safety should take precedence over national security concerns and that they should not be subjected to collective deportations.

His challenge to politicians, made in a comprehensive position paper on migrants and refugees, again appeared to put him at odds with the restrictive policies of a number of governments dealing with growing popular anti-immigrant sentiment.

"Solidarity must be concretely expressed at every stage of the migratory experience – from departure through journey to arrival and return," he said in a message ahead of the Roman Catholic Church's World Day of Migrants and Refugees.

Calling for "broader options for migrants and refugees to enter destination countries safely and legally," he said the human rights and dignity of all migrants had to be respected regardless of their legal status.

"The principle of the centrality of the human person ... obliges us to always prioritize personal safety over national security," he said.

He called for "alternative solutions to detention" for illegal immigrants and said "collective and arbitrary expulsions of migrants and refugees are not suitable solutions".

Francis said migrants should be seen as "a true resource for the communities that welcome them" and be given freedom of movement, access to means of communication, access to justice and everyday rights such as opening a bank account.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-migrants-pope-idUSKCN1B11RX
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:26:57 PM EST
personal safety over national security
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He's ignoring the "Personal Safety" issues that the Illegal Migrants are causing.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:27:26 PM EST
Well, I suppose I do the "If you can't say anything nice" thing with this asshole. He should open the gates to his castle before telling us what do with our little lives. Asshole.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:27:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:29:04 PM EST by jerrwhy01]
In other words you big meanies are cutting into the Church's profits so stop thwarting our relocation programs that we get paid ridiculous amounts of money for.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:28:30 PM EST
Who cares what he says..... he don't run this place
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:29:10 PM EST
the vatican can go first. let those fuckers in and we will see how that works out for you.

the papal seat has become the tool of the devil.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:29:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:30:25 PM EST
Someone needs to post this in the religious forum.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:31:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:33:52 PM EST by DaringRaider]
Fuck that guy.

It's shit like this that affirmed my belief in Dudeism.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:33:17 PM EST
As a former Catholic I'll just say that The Pope is nothing more than a man in a stupid hat.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:34:21 PM EST
I assume the Vatican is overflowing with these "refugees" than right?...





...I didn't think so. Fuck off pope
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:34:49 PM EST
If this guy had been pope in the 80s he would have done his best to keep the Soviet Union alive.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:37:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:39:47 PM EST by azerious58]
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:43:16 PM EST
Hire muzzy immigrants and replace the swiss guard with them.

Then get back to me asshole.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:45:12 PM EST
Tear down your walls and disband your private army. Then maybe you can talk about putting personal security on the back burner.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:45:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:45:47 PM EST by carguym14]
"Those aren't buoys"
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:45:27 PM EST
Let's fill up the Vatican, George Clooney, Mel Streep, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo's mansions with Muslim military aged men first.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:46:21 PM EST
God is no idiot but the Pope sure is.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:46:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:46:57 PM EST by Ryan1021]
Why don't they drop a couple thousand off to live with him?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:49:14 PM EST
Air drop a shitload of immigrants into that fortress of his.

Oh and take away all the weapons of his private police force while not letting them arrest or deport any of them.

What a stupid pathetic chump.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:50:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:51:10 PM EST by davisac]
Francis's message immediately drew the ire of the right-wing Northern League party in Italy because it implicitly supported a controversial law proposal that would grant citizenship to children who are born in Italy of immigrant parents.

"The universal right to a nationality should be recognized and duly certified for all children at birth," the pope said.

Northern League leader Matteo Salvini responded: "If he wants to apply it in his state, the Vatican, he can go right ahead."
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:51:51 PM EST
Funny, I've yet to see the Vatican throw open its gates...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:52:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
In before "Not my pope" and "Catholics aren't Christians".

I find it harder and harder to defend this guy. While I know that Jesus demands compassion for our fellow man, that just can't possibly extend to people who want to do you harm and are evil.
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This asshole drove me away from the Church.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:55:14 PM EST
So, how many are they letting into Vatican city?


They certainly have enough money for a couple million.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:55:18 PM EST
I think we should put him alone in a room with a couple hundred of the migrants. Just to talk about their journey.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:56:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 2:56:36 PM EST by jestice75]
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
In before "Not my pope" and "Catholics aren't Christians".

I find it harder and harder to defend this guy. While I know that Jesus demands compassion for our fellow man, that just can't possibly extend to people who want to do you harm and are evil.
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Why would you ever defend this guy? He's a communist infiltrator, not the pope.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:56:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ryann:
This asshole drove me away from the Church.
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Originally Posted By ryann:
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
In before "Not my pope" and "Catholics aren't Christians".

I find it harder and harder to defend this guy. While I know that Jesus demands compassion for our fellow man, that just can't possibly extend to people who want to do you harm and are evil.
This asshole drove me away from the Church.
I'm Ruthenian Rite. Francis is a fucking communist, and Eastern Rite Catholics KNOW and REMEMBER what communists did to us. I'm starting to believe he's the Anti-Pope.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:57:22 PM EST
I truly think God is not with this Pope.  I'm Catholic. 
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:57:59 PM EST
The Cardinals failed their church and God when they elected him.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:58:40 PM EST
That pope is a disgrace, and I never did give a fuck about any popes as I don't subscribe to the religion.

Just another establishment prick
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:59:10 PM EST
He's A pedophile.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:59:25 PM EST
He said this from behind some mighty tall walls.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 2:59:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 3:00:14 PM EST by fla556guy]
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Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
The Cardinals failed their church and God when they elected him.
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I am sure they knew what they were doing, for their wallets/power.

The pope is a political position and all pols are essentially the same in most cases.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:02:06 PM EST
Pope only speaks for the church in matter of faith and morals.. nothing he is saying is authoritative, just his "IMHO" only maybe not so humble..

All you weak a** fallen away Catholics.. Your lack of knowldge and faith is pathetic.. you know you left the Church bc you couldnt hack it in the morals department .. lets hear your vitriol..
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:04:28 PM EST
Gee, the pope likes the "refugees", can't believe the priests would allow that since there would be competition for "boy's confessions" . AntiChrist, socialist. How 'bout the church sell all their wealth and buy the "refugees" their own country?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:05:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ellermann13:
Pope only speaks for the church in matter of faith and morals.. nothing he is saying is authoritative, just his "IMHO" only maybe not so humble..

All you weak a** fallen away Catholics.. Your lack of knowldge and faith is pathetic.. you know you left the Church bc you couldnt hack it in the morals department .. lets hear your vitriol..
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and here we go....


It's important when the Pope speaks on these issues because he has a tremendous "bully pulpit" he speaks from. Perhaps he should shut his mouth and only speak to matters of faith and morals.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:08:04 PM EST
A senile old man in a funny hat whose personal beliefs have no bearing in the real world.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:08:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:15:13 PM EST
No, but I have heard that this popes is a joke, as well as observed it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:15:29 PM EST
Extremely fallible.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:19:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2017 3:21:55 PM EST by Smash47]
So this alt-left political activist polititan posing as a 'Pope' must have by now ordered the walls of the Vatican be torn down and the Vatican tuned into a 'migrant' base camp right?...or is he a hypocrite and the BS and slings only applies to others as his Globalist masters demand? - which is it?

Also has he ordered his Vatican guards to disarm while he orders the migrant camp be set up on his door step? If not- why not? if he practices what he preaches?
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:36 PM EST
Hes probably got a harem of little syrian boys sucking out his holy water.......
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:20:53 PM EST
I agree in part.  If we worked at making their homes safer, most would not need to immigrate. Likewise, if we prosicuted those who took advantage of them, their would be no financial advantage for them to migrat.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:21:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Drsalee:
He said this from behind some mighty tall walls.
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Trump is going to work this into a tweet and more heads will explode.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:24:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ellermann13:
Pope only speaks for the church in matter of faith and morals.. nothing he is saying is authoritative, just his "IMHO" only maybe not so humble..

All you weak a** fallen away Catholics.. Your lack of knowldge and faith is pathetic.. you know you left the Church bc you couldnt hack it in the morals department .. lets hear your vitriol..
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Left the Catholic church because they couldn't hack the "morals department". I just wanted to quote that. That's fucking awesome right there.

Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:24:36 PM EST
Sure pope, just as soon as you turn the other cheek and let a couple hundred or so stay in the Vatican, security speaking of course.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:28:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ellermann13:
Pope only speaks for the church in matter of faith and morals.. nothing he is saying is authoritative, just his "IMHO" only maybe not so humble..

All you weak a** fallen away Catholics.. Your lack of knowldge and faith is pathetic.. you know you left the Church bc you couldnt hack it in the morals department .. lets hear your vitriol..
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Can't tell if this is satire or not.
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:31:37 PM EST
He should just bow down to the caliphate already
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:34:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ellermann13:
Pope only speaks for the church in matter of faith and morals.. nothing he is saying is authoritative, just his "IMHO" only maybe not so humble..

All you weak a** fallen away Catholics.. Your lack of knowldge and faith is pathetic.. you know you left the Church bc you couldnt hack it in the morals department .. lets hear your vitriol..
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Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:37:18 PM EST
So how many migrants has the Vatican taken into it's walls? I am not referring to Italy, I mean how many migrants has the pope allowed to actually move permanently into Vatican owned buildings on Vatican grounds where the pope lives. After all, the Vatican issues it's own passports, and is seen as it's own government, so show us by example...
Link Posted: 8/21/2017 3:37:48 PM EST
How many has he let into the Vatican?
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