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Posted: 4/29/2015 3:56:25 PM EDT
I'm renting right now and I want to put some door jamb reinforcement armor on the front and back door frames. Has anyone ever done it? Did you get your security deposit back or did they charge you for all of the screw holes? Did you ask permission from the landlord or did you just do it?

In case you don't know what I'm talking about:

http://www.amazon.com/Safe-Homes-International-55724-Reinforcer/dp/B003P5KJJO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1430337368&sr=1-1&keywords=strikemaster+ii+pro
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 3:58:25 PM EDT
Ask your landlord if he'll credit you with the improvement on your rent.

You'd have to leave it, but you'd essentially get it for free.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:04:01 PM EDT
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I installed it on my apartment door after the unit below us got kicked in one night. Didn't get permission, just did it. I plan on removing it, filling in the holes, and painting over them. I'm moving out next week, so come back in a month and I'll let you know if they charged me for them
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:08:25 PM EDT
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but that product from Amazon doesn't look like it would make much difference for a kicked door entry or any other determined burglar.
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Originally Posted By Giltweasel:
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but that product from Amazon doesn't look like it would make much difference for a kicked door entry or any other determined burglar.
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I've done a lot of research into the subject and these things really do hold up. You can find a lot of videos on youtube. They can take a lot of abuse before they give way (which they inevitably will). The point is to give you extra time or convince the intruder that it will take way too long and make way too much noise to actually get into your home.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:20:30 PM EDT
Don't modify rentals until you contact the owner.

Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:20:44 PM EDT
Best bet is to ask your landlord about it, the worst they can say is no. The front door for my apartment is a hollow core door, much like a bathroom or bedroom door. I doubt something like this would help much
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:21:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Giltweasel:
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but that product from Amazon doesn't look like it would make much difference for a kicked door entry or any other determined burglar.
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I did a different brand one, but it made my door feel much more solid when closed. The longer screws into the studs and the metal plate definitely makes a difference. No, it won't stop someone from coming in, but it should mean the difference between getting through the door with one or two kicks to making someone take some decent effort to get in. All I was trying to do with it was give me an extra 30 seconds to wake up and get my mind clear and get a weapon ready should some poor fool choose my door next time.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:23:10 PM EDT
I once up-armored the door jamb of my ghetto apartment with a solid oak cutting board and 8 4" screws when I left for a weekend. Installed it right over the top of the door trim.

When I moved out, I just removed it, puttied the holes, and painted the doorframe. Done. Couldn't even tell it had ever been there.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:36:08 PM EDT
What is there for sliding glass doors? I remember seeing something on here like a film that prevents the glass from
Breaking through. Can't remember what it was called.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:42:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hking:
Best bet is to ask your landlord about it, the worst they can say is no. The front door for my apartment is a hollow core door, much like a bathroom or bedroom door. I doubt something like this would help much
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I'll probably do it even if they say no and just putty the holes and paint when I move out.
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Originally Posted By Kleinman:
What is there for sliding glass doors? I remember seeing something on here like a film that prevents the glass from
Breaking through. Can't remember what it was called.
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http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/mWindow-Film/Solutions/Residential/
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 4:52:08 PM EDT
I've heard these things are even better:

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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
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Looks kind of crappy to me.
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Looks kind of crappy to me.
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg


Looks kind of crappy to me.

I know it. Check YouTube though, I'm sure there's someone testing them. I hear they're surprisingly effective.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:22:43 PM EDT
I just replaced all the screws on the hinges and striker plate with 3-4 inch construction screws. cheap and simple, seems pretty effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYGReXY8FE
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Don't modify rentals until you contact the owner.

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This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.


Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:33:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.


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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By tango1978:
Don't modify rentals until you contact the owner.




This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.




Not their home yet.
There a fresh wind ablowin and you mr landlord wil get your hat blown off
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:40:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FivePoint56:
I just replaced all the screws on the hinges and striker plate with 3-4 inch construction screws. cheap and simple, seems pretty effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYGReXY8FE
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I've already replaced the existing screws.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:40:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.


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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By tango1978:
Don't modify rentals until you contact the owner.




This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.




I'm actually a landlord too, and I wouldn't give a shit.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:41:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
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have these on my doors. Figure it will give me enough time to get up/ready if needed.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:41:49 PM EDT
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not yet... but its on my list.


im building a house in about 2 years... and it will be a partial underground house. built using icf type concrete construction, .. concrete house, with a heavy reinforced door, i. cant. fucking. wait.


id fucking love this door.


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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
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Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:46:57 PM EDT
Anyone ever use one of these?

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Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.
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Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.


I can only assume there is no way to use it when you are not home, correct?
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Originally Posted By dan45678:


I can only assume there is no way to use it when you are not home, correct?
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Originally Posted By dan45678:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.


I can only assume there is no way to use it when you are not home, correct?
Not unless you have a secret entryway into your home.
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Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Not unless you have a secret entryway into your home.
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Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.


I can only assume there is no way to use it when you are not home, correct?
Not unless you have a secret entryway into your home.


I can always go out through the garage, I guess.
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Door jams on all the doors (this includes the bedroom door), furniture in front of all the windows, and a battery powered alarm. Not meant to prevent entry, just meant to give me more time to grab a weapon.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:56:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Choking_Hazard:
Door jams on all the doors (this includes the bedroom door), furniture in front of all the windows, and a battery powered alarm. Not meant to prevent entry, just meant to give me more time to grab a weapon.
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I like to use fake security cameras too. They are dirt cheap and look like the real thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Security-Camera-Blinking-Silver/dp/B004D8NZ52/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430348163&sr=8-1&keywords=fake+security+camera
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:56:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:



This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.


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Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By tango1978:
Don't modify rentals until you contact the owner.




This.

I'm a landlord and wouldn't be happy with you doing that prior to getting approval.

It's not your home.





Same here and I actually have a no unauthorized modification clause in my agreements.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:56:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By runfrumu:
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Master-Lock-Dual-Function-Adjustable-Door-Security-Bar-265DCCSEN/100210730


These work good and you can take them with you.
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That's what I use.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:56:56 PM EDT
http://armorconcepts.com/EZ-Armor/

This is what I installed on our front door, albeit not all of it since when adding the knob side plate the door clearance is too close to the frame and won't close.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 6:59:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dan45678:
I like to use fake security cameras too. They are dirt cheap and look like the real thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Security-Camera-Blinking-Silver/dp/B004D8NZ52/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430348163&sr=8-1&keywords=fake+security+camera
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I would like to put in an actual system, but I just don't have any extra money at the moment.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 7:09:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
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Link Posted: 4/29/2015 7:09:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dan45678:


I can always go out through the garage, I guess.
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Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg
Yep.

I have one of those (actually, something similar, not the exact one.)

It helps transfer the force to the floor instead of the door frame.

I figure they could still kick it in, but it will make it loud enough for them to perhaps give it up. Also, buy me some time to arm up.


I can only assume there is no way to use it when you are not home, correct?
Not unless you have a secret entryway into your home.


I can always go out through the garage, I guess.


Garage doors are very insecure, consider the door between the house and the garage an external door for security purposes.
Link Posted: 4/29/2015 7:27:37 PM EDT
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have these on my doors. Figure it will give me enough time to get up/ready if needed.
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Originally Posted By equilibrium1:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I've heard these things are even better:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WRkx6Ck%2BS._SL1024_.jpg


have these on my doors. Figure it will give me enough time to get up/ready if needed.
They suck. I have the exact same one and ended up having to kick my own door, busted in the metal exterior door in one kick. The kick stop slides along the floor half the time instead of working. The girls still insist on leaving it at the front door but it was useless in real life.
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