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Posted: 12/22/2003 11:09:37 AM EDT
I went out with a BEAUTIFUL(inside as well as out) woman last night.She is EXTREEMELY intelligent and has the looks to match.Everything went great as we we either talking or makin out(both were fun for me as well(it seems)as her)

anywoo......

Even though our politics are different,I still like her and she likes me.(I do feel however. as though I am somehow "sleeping with the enemy".


I am am not asking anyone for "justification",I am just curious,Does anyone else here have a intimate relationship with someone who is the opposite of your political views?It feels kinky to me.lol(that's not a bad thing either)


So what up?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:11:04 AM EDT
You mean a leftist?  The people who call themselves liberals today are not liberals.
Yes, I've dated a few.  They are from some other planet.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:14:10 AM EDT


Uh,,, NO![BD]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:15:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
You mean a leftist?  The people who call themselves liberals today are not liberals.
Yes, I've dated a few.  They are from some other planet.
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So wait, Leftists and Liberals are different? I always thought it was the same thing with different names. Explain?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:15:38 AM EDT
I did, three years ago.

The friction between us began about five months into the relationship.  It ended about two months later.  The problems with being political opposites wasn't obvious at first, but it took its toll when the relationship moved from being purely physical to more intellectual.

I won't do it again.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:17:39 AM EDT
Yep,

The GF I am with now was a far left anti gun liberal when I met her. Her parents were DU types with no grip on reality.

Now, done get me wrong she is a very very smart girl. After a while she started understanding that America is not supposed to be like what her parents want it to be.

Now, she is a gun carrying woman with an outlook for America that would make ARFCOM proud.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:18:29 AM EDT
Sure have, but not being a conservative helps break the ice [nana].  When the gun thing comes up, I address it as a hobby.  Talking about tactical, governmental, or defense issues is 'crazy talk' to them.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:19:59 AM EDT
oh yeah,she said she was left of left too.I think she used the term RADICAL to describe herself.I've always been a conservative so I wonder what the hell she attracted to in me?
It's most certianly NOT my political views.She's to classy IMO for it to be JUST physical.I can make her smile.(no small feat for me)
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:20:05 AM EDT
I was engaged to one for a year.




Then I started thinking with something other than my freak tester stick.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:22:25 AM EDT
Oh yeah, lot's of them. No big deal, though I call doggystyle with them "the right winger."
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:23:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Yep,

The GF I am with now was a far left anti gun liberal when I met her. Her parents were DU types with no grip on reality.

Now, done get me wrong she is a very very smart girl. After a while she started understanding that America is not supposed to be like what her parents want it to be.

Now, she is a gun carrying woman with an outlook for America that would make ARFCOM proud.
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I've did that too with my EX.


I can do it again.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:23:57 AM EDT
Classic Liberal:
"lib-er-al-ism ... a: ... a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b: a theory in economics emphasizing freedom from restraint and usu[ally] based on free competition c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of man, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties" Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary
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On the other hand, [url]http://www.broadleft.org/[/url], shows that the leftist parties of the world are generally collectivist and many are specifically socialist in nature.  In addition, the modern liberal's rhetoric reveals him to be a communist in sheep's clothing.
Classic Liberal and Liberal are two different things.  Do not let the modern liberal shroud himself from his own truth.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:23:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 11:24:41 AM EDT by thedave1164]
How about Mary Matlin and serpenthead?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:24:24 AM EDT
My wife went to Berkeley.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:29:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
My wife went to Berkeley.
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and this is a GOOD thing?
Did she spit on our troops?
Are you a conservitive?
is she a liberal?
how do y'all do that?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 11:43:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY:
and this is a GOOD thing?
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She got a great education, and it looks good on her resume.

Did she spit on our troops?
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Do you molest children?

I'm a Marine. Do you think I'd have anything to do with a woman that would even consider doing such a thing?

Are you a conservitive?
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Yes I am, of the knuckledragging, almost Neanderthal variety.

is she a liberal?
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She's not as conservative as I am, but she has her moments.

how do y'all do that?
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I have educated her with logic and facts on some things about which she was mis- or uninformed. She got me away from 2% and onto skim milk. We work it out.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:02:12 PM EDT
My fiancee is pretty left-wing, but also incredibly intelligent.

It's not a problem -  we've both accepted the fact that the other is insane. [:D]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:11:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY:

Did she spit on our troops?
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Originally posted by Jarhead_22:
Do you molest children?

I'm a Marine. Do you think I'd have anything to do with a woman that would even consider doing such a thing?
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LMAO!I appologize to you Jarhead_22 for asking you that about her(I KNEW she probably didn't)

It was more in sick humor.Just givin ya some teasin.Still Friends?

Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:28:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY:
LMAO!I appologize to you Jarhead_22 for asking you that about her(I KNEW she probably didn't)

It was more in sick humor.Just givin ya some teasin.Still Friends?
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We're cool.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:33:01 PM EDT
I have. As long as I don't talk about guns or politics, we were good. Damn, I remember she was an awesome lay...
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 12:34:09 PM EDT
yup.  upside is she really doesn't know much except what her parents and media have lied to her about.  so i consider myself to be the winner of the arguements.

although i have to shut up to keep the peace when her parents start blabbering nonsense about nationwide health care, hitlery,etc.

i'd love to hear her talk to someone else about my gun habit or beliefs..that would let me know if she actually considers my side and perhaps believes some of it is correct..or if she just clams up around me and is still a moron.

i honestly think she doesn't really know what to believe right now as far as politics.  that might be a good thing.

OT, liberal, leftist, progressive..which one is it?  

Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:04:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By John91498:
I have. As long as I don't talk about guns or politics, we were good. Damn, I remember she was an awesome lay...
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The Question begs to be asked....Did politics mess you two up for good?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:15:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY:
Originally Posted By John91498:
I have. As long as I don't talk about guns or politics, we were good. Damn, I remember she was an awesome lay...
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The Question begs to be asked....Did politics mess you two up for good?
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No, I just got tired of her and went for someone else. Poltics, guns, and/or religion had nothing to do with the break up. She just wasn't the "one."
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:21:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Juell:
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
You mean a leftist?  The people who call themselves liberals today are not liberals.
Yes, I've dated a few.  They are from some other planet.
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So wait, Leftists and Liberals are different? I always thought it was the same thing with different names. Explain?
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From what I understand, there are two different things here.

There's the political spectrum of "Left" vs. "Right".

And then there's "Liberal" and "Conservative" Liberals believe in change, while conseratives believe in keeping things the way they are. No political position nesscary has to be read into this.

For example, if your country was Leftist and you wanted to move it towards the right, then you could be a "liberal" while those who wanted to perserve it as a leftist nation would be "conseratives". And visa versa.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:25:02 PM EDT
I don't know if she's "the one",but she's got my attention.I would definetly say that she is God's Christmas present to me.She's 28,tall,NO kids,educated,doesn't feel the NEED to get married to anyone,AND Fine as all get out.For now,any flaws she has are of no concern to me.NOONE'S perfect.I can live with that.

BTW:Thankyou God.'preciate that.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:25:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 1:27:57 PM EDT by 95thFoot]
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
My fiancee is pretty left-wing, but also incredibly intelligent.

It's not a problem -  we've both accepted the fact that the other is insane. [:D]
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Is your fiancee an academic as well? If so, then there's nothing one could do (other than split), since being left-wing goes hand-on-hand with being a female in academia...[img]http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:35:23 PM EDT
I dated a Berkley educated left-wing hippy chick.
After 3 months (after sex in every position) we found out we really didn't like each others politics, social issues stands, money values, moral values (yea, I know), religious values.

Her older sister is a Berkley educated lesbian and she is very consertive (for a lesbian).
Me and her had almost the same interests and values (including women and guns).
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:41:33 PM EDT

Yes, she was a 5'-4", 110 lbs, blonde, physical fitness instructer.

Not an ounce of grey matter!!!

Great [sex],but the conversation was soooo [sleep]

Her "worldview" came from her father, a lifelong DUMBY... I mean DEMOcrat.

Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:48:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
In addition, the modern liberal's rhetoric reveals him to be a communist in sheep's clothing.
Classic Liberal and Liberal are two different things.  Do not let the modern liberal shroud himself from his own truth.
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I'd have a lot less of a problem dating an actual "Red" communist woman than I would the typical pinko whiney, bedwetting liberal DU moonbat.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:50:41 PM EDT
I had the good fortune to rescue one from a leftist home.  I can't really vouch for her leanings before she met he, but her family... wow.  Her parents have probably never voted Republican in their lives, and can't stop bitching about how wrong the war is, etc...  Pretty much the type of voter that has made the Chicago Machine what it is today.

She now goes shooting with me every now and then, bought me a reloading press last xmas, and did a paper on the second amendment for a grad school history class.

The only issues left to address is that she has yet to shoot anything more powerful than a Kel-Tec P32, and she's still kind of scared at the thoght of riding the motorcycle I just bought.  I'll keep ya posted...
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 1:52:04 PM EDT
Well I really dont care what their political views are as long as she is good in bed.  

In all serious Dont sweat it, My wife used to be pretty Liberal, Then I showed her the brighter Side, The only problem is since then I lost my Smith and wesson 686 plus and my Kimber Stainless .45 to her. The thing is dont force it on her, Make it look like your keeping your politcal distance but dont really keep your distance.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 2:36:04 PM EDT
What the hell for?  If I wanted to be annoyed, I'd just as soon go to the mall during Christimas season.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 2:36:36 PM EDT
It's funny; every woman and girl I have dated has been pretty apolitical, although all them would probably be liberals if they cared about politics.  

But I like 'em apolitical.  That's fine with me.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 2:40:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sixgun357:
Well I really dont care what their political views are as long as she is good in bed.  
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LMAO!That seems to be the No#1 response here.

I'll find that out soon enough!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 2:41:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 2:42:12 PM EDT by DK-Prof]
Originally Posted By 95thFoot:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
My fiancee is pretty left-wing, but also incredibly intelligent.

It's not a problem -  we've both accepted the fact that the other is insane. [:D]
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Is your fiancee an academic as well? If so, then there's nothing one could do (other than split), since being left-wing goes hand-on-hand with being a female in academia...[url]http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif[/url]
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Yup - we're both tenure-track in the same field (we actually just published a theory paper together in one of our top journals) - but we work at different universities.

I agree with you - she's not going to be changed.  We're both in our late 30s, and neither of is likely to experience any sudden shifts in personality or philosophy anytime soon.  It's also REALLY hard to convince anyone of anything when they are smarter than you [;)]


She did promise to go shooting with me next time I take the Garands out - she agreed to do so if I tried to eat grits. [:X*]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 2:49:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By 95thFoot:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
My fiancee is pretty left-wing, but also incredibly intelligent.

It's not a problem -  we've both accepted the fact that the other is insane. [:D]
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Is your fiancee an academic as well? If so, then there's nothing one could do (other than split), since being left-wing goes hand-on-hand with being a female in academia...[url]http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif[/url]
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Yup - we're both tenure-track in the same field (we actually just published a theory paper together in one of our top journals) - but we work at different universities.

I agree with you - she's not going to be changed.  We're both in our late 30s, and neither of is likely to experience any sudden shifts in personality or philosophy anytime soon.  It's also REALLY hard to convince anyone of anything when they are smarter than you [;)]


She did promise to go shooting with me next time I take the Garands out - she agreed to do so if I tried to eat grits. [:X*]
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As somebody who grew up in Germany, Massachusetts, and West Virginia (my formative centers of who I am), I tell you: eat the grits. Do it. I mix 'em with orange marmalade (a tip from a Yorkshireman who lived in Atlanta for seven years....).

(BTW did I mention we are having haggis on Xmas day?)

Then she'll shoot the Garands. Good trade.

Bring along shoulder pad for the Garands. People who are not used to shooting them find them to have (as well as be) a big kick.

So...."yum-yum, eat 'em up!" as they said on the Little Rascals.... [:D]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 3:40:11 PM EDT
Yes, the sex was outstanding the political discussions near physical the make up sex ball draining!!!![headbang]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 3:55:18 PM EDT
i'm currently half-assed dating an attorney who runs a rape and domestic violence center. she's kinda liberal *cough.*

i told her i have a couple pistols for target shooting. because it's fun. no mention of evil black rifles. but i always get it (sorta) out of the way pretty quickly. i shoot, deal with it or there is the door.

"well, never show me your guns... and if we ever end up moving in together they have to stay at your parent's house."

well, that ain't gonna happen. though a preban upper may be staying at moms house when i have all the parts soon, to prevent "constructive intent" or whatever it is called.  

Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:05:51 PM EDT
not only did i date a liberal, i married one.
Ended in a firey all hands on deck divorce 6 years ago. she was very intelligent, spoke 5 languages, but as crazy as they come.
She has since converted to Islam , wears a nose ring, and about 10 times nuttier now.
even has a muslim name. NEVER AGAIN!!
Ive now remarried a moderate, speaks one language, no nose ring, and the best gal a guy ever had!!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:08:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EX11B:
not only did i date a liberal, i married one.
Ended in a firey all hands on deck divorce 6 years ago. she was very intelligent, spoke 5 languages, but as crazy as they come.
She has since converted to Islam , wears a nose ring, and about 10 times nuttier now.
even has a muslim name. NEVER AGAIN!!
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[shock]  My god!
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:11:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 4:15:08 PM EDT by 95thFoot]
Originally Posted By 2minkey:
i'm currently half-assed dating an attorney who runs a rape and domestic violence center. she's kinda liberal *cough.*

i told her i have a couple pistols for target shooting. because it's fun. no mention of evil black rifles. but i always get it (sorta) out of the way pretty quickly. i shoot, deal with it or there is the door.

"well, never show me your guns... and if we ever end up moving in together they have to stay at your parent's house."

well, that ain't gonna happen. though a preban upper may be staying at moms house when i have all the parts soon, to prevent "constructive intent" or whatever it is called.  

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First they take away the guns, then they hand you your balls out of their pocketbooks when it suits them....

....and then take them back, and keep them under lock and key. Like their bodies.....

Put as much distance between yourself and this man-hating legal eagle ASAP. Don't let your hormones do your thinking for you, future Disarmed Male.

If you don't, you'll be sooooory....


Am I getting through?

McFly...McFly?

"Can you hear me now?" [:D]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:16:41 PM EDT
I married one, but since 9/11 and GWB, she has become more of a Republican than I.

She still has a few liberal views, but she doesn't think the Democrats are able to do anything right.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:18:55 PM EDT
I have dated a few.  For some reason, it seems that liberal chicks, in my experience, suck d*** REAL DAMN GOOD.  


I wised up and married a nice conservative girl though.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:41:20 PM EDT
Dated one once, never again. I banged a few after that, but never again dated one.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:45:47 PM EDT
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I'm currently dating a Cuban girl.  I just moved back to Texas from Hawaii *LAND OF THE LIBERAL LESBIANS/GAYS.  She's sooooooo freaking hot, exotic and everything!  Her family was run out of Cuba, left everything behind, including alot of family.  She HATES Communists, ranted all night once about how much she hates Liberals and how they don't realize what a great country they live in, that the freedoms we already have she didn't get to have in Cuba.  I was so happy when we had that talk that I kissed her!  She's eager to try ANYTHING!  I took her to a range and she about fell in love with guns.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:51:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven:
Originally Posted By EX11B:
not only did i date a liberal, i married one.
Ended in a firey all hands on deck divorce 6 years ago. she was very intelligent, spoke 5 languages, but as crazy as they come.
She has since converted to Islam , wears a nose ring, and about 10 times nuttier now.
even has a muslim name. NEVER AGAIN!!
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[shock]  My god!
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Isn't the more proper phrase: My Allah! [shock]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:51:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 4:59:28 PM EDT
I met a librarian-looking liberal who belonged to NOW and the ACLU, and I told her I was an NRA member. We ended up going out and me, thinking "librarian chick", neglected to bring a rubber!

OMIGOD what a sensuous babe. She had the candles, the massage oil, and me without protection. So we relocated back to my house, played hookey from work, and did it till the sun came up. I'd give up my left nut for that kinda sex on a regular basis. Alas, our divergent views led to an unfortunate breakup. I guess the pics I showed her of me and all my "assault weapon" toting friends didn't help.

I only date conservatives or "undecideds" now.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:04:14 PM EDT
Christ!  All these breakups over photos of gun-toting fiends!  Just don't show pics of your guns and take her on a date to see your gun collection until you've gotten in good.  Guns are just inherently intimidating to the female gender.....liberal or conservative.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:08:18 PM EDT
What do I do now?Shes comong over tonight and I have guns and gun stuff EVERYwhere!!(no my house is not messy)
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:21:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY:
What do I do now?Shes comong over tonight and I have guns and gun stuff EVERYwhere!!(no my house is not messy)
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LOL.  I think the worst way to introduce a woman to guns is to have them lying around everywhere.  Put them all away in a closet AND HURRY!
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