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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 1:45:58 PM EST
[#1]
Look like a bunch of AI generated guns.
PWS
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 1:47:01 PM EST
[#2]
"""considered"""?

haha 3d printer go brrr
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 1:57:54 PM EST
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airsoft
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 1:58:47 PM EST
[#4]
No.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:00:05 PM EST
[#5]
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
I've done just enough 3D printing to know that the kind of filaments I want to use for most of my projects, (not necessarily gun related) require a printer costing around $1500.  I can buy a lot of small parts for less than that.

When I can buy a turn key printer that can print CF and glass fiber filled nylon and other high temp filaments right out of the box for under $500, and do it really well, I'm all in.

Until then, my PLA/ABS printers just sit idle because I am not interested in spending hours fiddling with them to get them to print well, or in trying to load upgraded firmware and modified hotends and rigging up enclosures to get them to do a "just okay" job at printing nylon.

I have an Ender 3 V2 and an Ender 5 pro, plus the enclosure, plus a high temp creality hotend.  But I don't want to spend my precious free time getting it to work together.  I think creality released firmware for the Ender 3 V2 that will work with the new hotend, but not yet for the Ender 5, and that has an older board and display than the 3V2.

$500, maybe even as much as $600 for a printer that I can plug in, load CF nylon, slice and print high quality prints is where I am back in the hobby.
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Might I suggest looking at a Bambu Lab P1S? Last I checked the P1S was $599 w/o the AMS, and $949 $849 with AMS.

I think it was the 2nd or 3rd print on mine when I loaded PA6-CF and ran some needed shop fixtures on the recommended build plate. Everything printed fine and were functional using the .20 Strength setting.



Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:14:06 PM EST
[#6]
Yes, I considered it.


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:21:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX_Traveller:
Yes, I considered it.

https://i.imgur.com/8gQFnN5.jpg
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Once again another example of how much ground we have lost here at arfcom HQ.

Instead of designing printing and testing high quality designs such as the Recession Ruger x stonerbroomhandle we get out competed by other msg boards.

It appears as if many on arfcom haven't grasped the rapidly advancing designs and tech behind the 3D printing scene.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:23:20 PM EST
[#8]
I'd never dream of it, sounds dangerous and irresponsible.





Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:34:27 PM EST
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That GAL is sweet. Where did you find that version at? I built the V2 from the prints on the site, but the DBAL layout seems pretty neat compared to the PEQ version.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:37:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Extrabonez:


That GAL is sweet. Where did you find that version at? I built the V2 from the prints on the site, but the DBAL layout seems pretty neat compared to the PEQ version.
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I did the redesign, there's info about it in the GAL thread in the 3DP/CAD forum.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/3d-Printed-laser-illuminator/194-2678561/
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:45:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
I did the redesign, there's info about it in the GAL thread in the 3DP/CAD forum.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/3d-Printed-laser-illuminator/194-2678561/
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Right on! I pop in there every now and again but it has been a bit. I appreciate it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 2:52:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jackthom8:
Are the plastic filaments better nowadays? I still don't trust their reliability
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An annealed Glock receiver printed from cf-nylon is very strong. *Almost* as strong as a real Glock frame which is injection-molded nylon.

Most people aren’t set up to print with technical filaments, but it’s not out of reach.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:03:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare:



An annealed Glock receiver printed from cf-nylon is very strong. *Almost* as strong as a real Glock frame which is injection-molded nylon.

Most people aren't set up to print with technical filaments, but it's not out of reach.
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PLA works pretty well and is so cheap it's trivial to print 20 frames.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:15:47 PM EST
[#14]
Yeah, I'm going to try to do a few this winter.

I wish ARF were less gay about posting links to prints.  We could be a nice node in the network of distributing freedom, but we're too worried about muh full auto pieces, like I can't look at a fucking patent or something.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:31:36 PM EST
[#15]
I hear they'll blow your hands off.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:41:43 PM EST
[#16]
Here is my modified Hellfire.  Back when braces were normal.
Fusion Filaments HT-PLA+.  Going to reprint with my new Prusa Mk4 and anneal.



TYCOM
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:43:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Denwad:

PLA works pretty well and is so cheap it's trivial to print 20 frames.
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Originally Posted By Denwad:
Originally Posted By MemeWarfare:



An annealed Glock receiver printed from cf-nylon is very strong. *Almost* as strong as a real Glock frame which is injection-molded nylon.

Most people aren't set up to print with technical filaments, but it's not out of reach.

PLA works pretty well and is so cheap it's trivial to print 20 frames.



Yes, PLA works pretty well and makes pretty prints. Don’t leave it in your car on a hot day though.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:45:43 PM EST
[#18]
The mag catch is printed

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:46:05 PM EST
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Considered?  Sure.  But I just don't have enough time / interest to learn a whole new realm of 'home gunsmithing'.  Still working on mastering the old manual mill & lathe.  
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:50:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By yodude:
Will you take the first shot? Nope. Unusable after the first shot.
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. Before they were infringed on in Nevada I had one for shits and giggles. Frame was fine after a few hundred 9mm. You only printthe frame on Glocks and they've been proven to last a while. Not saying I would take a 3d printed gun with me if I needed to grab a gun to trust my life to but for a range toy at about 200 bucks it's fine.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:54:11 PM EST
[#21]
This is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this thread title :

Print Shoot Repeat - The HK Slap (Official Music Video)
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:08:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:
Interesting novelties.

Nothing more.

Coming from someone who operates a 3D printing business.
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Don't knock it till you have tried it.


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:11:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper:


Mesmu it seems as though you are a believer in the empowerment of additive manufacturing and it's ability to democratize firearm design and accessibility beyond the control of the state.

This stuff needs to be banned. Think of the children.

Arfcom, don't go rush out and buy a 3D printer like the bambu labs P1. I mean you have to download a file. Slice a test print. Maybe fail at a few designs before you understand what your doing. Waste a whole $20 spool of PLA+ before you get good. Much too difficult. Go through an FFL for all your firearm needs like a good citizen.
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I've designed several working parts for various projects in Tinkercad.  I'm not just printing someone else's .stl files.  

But I absolutely do not have time to fiddle with stuff that doesn't print great right out of the box.  If I did, I would just perform the necessary upgrades and adjustments to my existing printers.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:15:41 PM EST
[#25]
This thread is the future.
I've only printed a dog and a cat on my Ender, but I'm keeping an eye on this stuff.

80%/3D lowers.....this is the way (which also why I love braced pistols).


Note: Of course, since I am a citizen of Illinois, I will follow all state laws and register any part or lower I would create if I ever tried my hand at this stuff.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:16:47 PM EST
[#26]
Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper:
https://origamifaceshield.com/img/PXL_2.jpg

Yes or No?

The above is just one example of the power of 3D printing. Not mine.
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I have a friend who's been trying and hasn't been able to make one that survives more than 10 rounds or so, so no.

I have not considered 3D printing my own firearms.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:17:30 PM EST
[#27]
Yes, they don’t deal with heat or hard use.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:21:59 PM EST
[#28]
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:

I've designed several working parts for various projects in Tinkercad.  I'm not just printing someone else's .stl files.  

But I absolutely do not have time to fiddle with stuff that doesn't print great right out of the box.  If I did, I would just perform the necessary upgrades and adjustments to my existing printers.
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper:


Mesmu it seems as though you are a believer in the empowerment of additive manufacturing and it's ability to democratize firearm design and accessibility beyond the control of the state.

This stuff needs to be banned. Think of the children.

Arfcom, don't go rush out and buy a 3D printer like the bambu labs P1. I mean you have to download a file. Slice a test print. Maybe fail at a few designs before you understand what your doing. Waste a whole $20 spool of PLA+ before you get good. Much too difficult. Go through an FFL for all your firearm needs like a good citizen.

I've designed several working parts for various projects in Tinkercad.  I'm not just printing someone else's .stl files.  

But I absolutely do not have time to fiddle with stuff that doesn't print great right out of the box.  If I did, I would just perform the necessary upgrades and adjustments to my existing printers.


Bambu Lab dropped a bomb on all other 3D printing companies this year with their line of printers. You have ease of use and perfect prints right out of the gate. Way faster than Prusa machines with the same just works out of the box.

Compared to the Creality printers that people had to constantly tinker with and mod to get them printing reliably with quality.

The only thing stock on my Ender 5 Pro is the frame and bed. I've now converted it to a Core XY ZeroG Merc1.

My next printer will be the Bambu Lab P1S or a QIDI X Max 3.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:29:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:


I have a friend who's been trying and hasn't been able to make one that survives more than 10 rounds or so, so no.

I have not considered 3D printing my own firearms.
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It all comes down to how calibrated you get your printer. Most people can't even level the bed properly or continue printing with clogged nozzles etc. I've got hundreds of rounds through mine.

Until Bambu Lab you were left with Prusa (twice the price of Ender 3s) for printers that just worked out of the box.

Out of the box this is a fantastic printer. Bambu Lab P1S $599 It's way faster than Prusa printers and turns out some fantastic prints.

You had to do lots calibration/mods/tweaking on previous printers to get prints looking as good as the Bambu does out of the box.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:34:29 PM EST
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Details! We need details! I might actually be in for a bullpup if that thing is real!
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:34:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kcolg30:
Seems dangerous. Even top manufacturers have their own products kaboom due to faulty parts and ammo, and they have been doing it for years. I can't imagine an amateur making something that potentially could kaboom due to their inexperience and using substandard materials.


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That’s the sort of negativity I don’t need in my life.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:36:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Considered, yes.  Dismissed, also yes.
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:40:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Like_Button:



That’s the sort of negativity I don’t need in my life.
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The frames exploding are nature's way of telling you that your print bed wasn't as level as it should have been.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:48:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By _DR:



Don't knock it till you have tried it.


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Also being an FFL I don't even know if I can print one without serializing it now that every gun I touch must have a serial number. I've not cared enough to truly look into it. I don't really see the benefits of a printed gun, regardless. Anybody who thinks the government knows where the guns are has far too much confidence in our government.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:49:33 PM EST
[#35]
Yup.

And magazines. My printers down right now.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:50:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By yodude:
Will you take the first shot? Nope. Unusable after the first shot.
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Lol
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:21:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert:
This is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this thread title :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kucefQ6sYbo
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What an absolute masterpiece.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:21:52 PM EST
[#40]
There are quite a few videos coming out of Europe of printed guns running full auto and a fair number of those printed 9mm subguns were used in some conflict in SE Asia (IIRC) recently.  In the few videos where anyone talks, they generally mention that they're for short term use; I'm assuming they mean assassinations/ambushes, and use as a means to acquiring better weapons.  The cartels are definitely running CNC machines and there are ways to use 3d printing to make rifled barrels and other parts so the tech is moving quickly.  And then there are places like NY where they've proposed registration on 3D printers....
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:24:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:33:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
...And then there are places like NY where they've proposed registration on 3D printers....
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It's simply too complex for arfcom. They can't be bothered to buy a $169 ender 3 with a PEI bed and orange springs on Amazon. They then cannot be bothered to buy a few spools of PLA +. Certainly can't be bothered to use the almost foolproof cura 5.5 slicer software. Can't be bothered to go to the odd sea and download a few sailing prints while they are easy to get and accessible. They will panic buy their 3D printer a week before legislation happens and or buy a pre ban for $3999 the week after.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:37:34 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:40:25 PM EST
[#44]
What an interesting novelty!
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:46:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fullautoguy:



Yet, its coming
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Cant print the most important parts of the guns I want



Yet, its coming


I would just be happy to be able to print a “Glock” lower that did not require purchasing frame rails separately plus a locking block.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:51:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare:



An annealed Glock receiver printed from cf-nylon is very strong. *Almost* as strong as a real Glock frame which is injection-molded nylon.

Most people aren’t set up to print with technical filaments, but it’s not out of reach.
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare:
Originally Posted By jackthom8:
Are the plastic filaments better nowadays? I still don't trust their reliability



An annealed Glock receiver printed from cf-nylon is very strong. *Almost* as strong as a real Glock frame which is injection-molded nylon.

Most people aren’t set up to print with technical filaments, but it’s not out of reach.


A printed Glock frame might as well be a P320 grip module. It’s just a shell for the important parts. Front and rear frame rails and locking block.  
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:51:41 PM EST
[#47]
I'd rather print plastic car parts. I was thinking today how cool it could be to make drop in LED tail lights for old cars with little aftermarket support.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:57:13 PM EST
[#48]
This is where I see 3D printing really shining in the home gunsmithing world. Making the tools that help make the parts. My favorite so far is the tool to make rifled barrels with a home-brewed EDM setup.

I love the 3D printed gun designs that people are coming up with, but I wouldn't trust any of them to hold up under serious use.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 6:39:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 6:39:18 PM EST
[#50]
Guns are icky!
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