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Posted: 5/23/2005 6:22:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 6:25:03 PM EDT by thompsondd]




I have seen it MANY times on TV and have always wanted to go. Now, it's just a few miles down the road from my hotel, but closes well before I would ever have a chance to get there. I have already consigned myself to the fact that I won't get to see it. It just pisses me off as this is the closest I have ever gotten.

This is part of what sucks about being on the road. Sometimes, there is only enough time to get there, do what you are suppose to do, and get back. You never get to see or do anything else, period.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:25:33 PM EDT
what is it?
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:27:51 PM EDT
A house thats possessed by the spirits of indians that were killed by the winchester rifles.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:28:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 6:29:29 PM EDT by thompsondd]

Originally Posted By tyman:
what is it?



Google is your friend.

www.winchestermysteryhouse.com/


San Jose, California is the where one of the most unusual houses in the world calls home. The 160 room house is a jumble of twists and turns, dead ends and doors to nowhere. It is the result of thirty-eight years of nonstop construction with no more of a blueprint than the whim of the house's owner.

Sarah Winchester was the wife of the heir to the Winchester Rifle fortune, William Winchester. They had one child, a daughter, Annie, who died about one month after her birth. William died approximately 15 years later of tuberculosis. Mrs. Winchester, deeply distraught over both deaths, consulted a medium for guidance. This is where the fun starts.

The medium, rather than giving a message of a comforting nature, told Sarah that her family was cursed by the spirits of all those killed by Winchester rifles. These spirits had taken the lives of her husband and daughter as a revenge. The only thing that would pacify these tormented, and tormenting, souls would be to purchase a house and build on it continually. If Sarah did as the spirits directed, she could escape them. Apparently, the medium also gave Sarah the impression that if the construction ceased, so would Sarah's life. Make sense to you? Me neither! It made sense to Sarah, though, which is why I'm able to write about this.

In 1884, Sarah bought a house in San Jose and immediately set to using her $20,000,000 inheritance to fund nonstop additions. There were people working on the house twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year until the day she died, thirty eight years after construction began. Sarah was responsible for the architectural design of the additions, which includes doors that open to 8 foot drops, staircases that rise to nowhere but the ceiling, switchback staircases with two inch steps, and a room that has a window in the floor. Theories abound as to why Sarah constructed the house in this fashion. A common one seems to be that it was her intention to confuse the spirits that were after her. A more outlandish one is that she had a seance every night to learn what the spirits wished. Most sources I read stated that the house has a "seance room", but some claimed it a bit of legend. The most down-to-earth theories are: 1) The house looks like that because she was not an architect and had no idea how to design a house. 2) The house looks like that becuase the woman was completely out of her gourd.
Here are some statistics about the house:

* 160 rooms
* 40 bedrooms
* 47 fireplaces
* 13 bathrooms
* 2 ballrooms
* 40 staircases
* more than 450 doorways

Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:28:50 PM EDT
The guy that started Winchester firearms. Thats his house, I don't remember his name, but if I remember correctly, the wife was haunted by spirits of the people that were killed by winchester guns. She had to keep adding on to the house to keep the spirits happy? Lots of strange places in the house, like the pic of the stairs that go no where.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:43:20 PM EDT
I took the tour about 20 years ago. Lots of wierd hallways and rooms with hidden doors and passageways.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:48:45 PM EDT
I've seen a few shows on it. Wierd place! You should skip out on whatever you are doing and go.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:55:42 PM EDT
I went through there several years ago. Definitely worth the tour, very well done craftsmanship and good background BS. The Winchester (?) microbrewery in town used to be worth several visits too...

She was the Winchester widow with tons of money. She was scared of all the ghosts of Winchester firearm victims, and believed that ghosts would only inhabit a completed house. She had workers going all day and night for many years to trick the superstitous ghosts. She also wanted to trick the dumber ghosts with stairs going into nowhere, doors opening to the outdoors from upstairs, many things in quantities of 13 and 7(?), etc.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 6:58:21 PM EDT
I went there a few years back, I thought it was interesting. They had a small collection of guns off to the side on the grounds. I would recommend it if you can make it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:20:58 PM EDT
The Holloween tours by flashlight are the best. Been there a dozen times, very cool place.

Sarah had problems lifting here feet up very high and they have staircases in there with steps that are only 2 inches high.

Anyone know what sound a maglight makes when you hit a ghost?
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:26:46 PM EDT
Went there instead of having a graduation party.

Weird place. Very cool, but overpriced of course. I want to try the Halloween tour some year.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 7:28:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PinePig:
The Holloween tours by flashlight are the best. Been there a dozen times, very cool place.

Sarah had problems lifting here feet up very high and they have staircases in there with steps that are only 2 inches high.

Anyone know what sound a maglight makes when you hit a ghost?


"swooosh"
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 8:34:10 PM EDT
On that note, and about thirty miles south of there, what's the deal with the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot? I know what it is, has anyone been there? Fraud, or worth the admission fee to make you scratch your head?

NTM
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 8:37:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2005 8:40:46 PM EDT by SPECTRE]

Originally Posted By 44Punk:

Originally Posted By PinePig:
The Holloween tours by flashlight are the best. Been there a dozen times, very cool place.

Sarah had problems lifting here feet up very high and they have staircases in there with steps that are only 2 inches high.

Anyone know what sound a maglight makes when you hit a ghost?


"swooosh"



Whatever sound it makes must be banned.
We wouldn't want to hurt anyones feelings.

As for the house, I took the tour several years agao. Very interesting and our guide was retiring that day. He had been doing the tours for many years and knew a lot about the house.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 8:40:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:
On that note, and about thirty miles south of there, what's the deal with the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot? I know what it is, has anyone been there? Fraud, or worth the admission fee to make you scratch your head?

NTM



Total bullshit, optical illusions, standard crap.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 8:45:28 PM EDT
The house is nothing but a tribute to a mentally ill old woman with too much money.

The gun collection was nice, though.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 9:01:02 PM EDT
It was reported that these dudes had a psychotic reaction there...

Link Posted: 5/23/2005 9:50:23 PM EDT
there have been numerous reports of ghostly sightings at Winchester mystery house, mrs Winchester's ghost still roams the house.
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 9:56:15 PM EDT
The parking lot at the cinemaplex was full so I parked my car in the Winchester Mystery House parking lot.

Lo and behold, when I got out of the movie, my car had disappeared!
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 10:09:13 PM EDT
The best part is on the way out.
There are cabinets in the middle of two walkways.
I was on the right and when the guy on the left stuck his head inside.
I BANGED it as hard as I could.
Scared to crap out of him!!!
Link Posted: 5/23/2005 10:14:29 PM EDT
Been to both the Winchester and The Mystery Spot... both were cool...

Winchester House: Lots of beautiful things to see... NIIIIIIICE rifles too.

The Mystery Spot. has some strange stuff going on there... some people even get sick and feel nausiated. Yet as soon as they get down off that hill... they are fine. Bizarre.

If you have the chance... go... youll have fun
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 11:58:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Been to both the Winchester and The Mystery Spot... both were cool...

Winchester House: Lots of beautiful things to see... NIIIIIIICE rifles too.

The Mystery Spot. has some strange stuff going on there... some people even get sick and feel nausiated. Yet as soon as they get down off that hill... they are fine. Bizarre.

If you have the chance... go... youll have fun



Is the Mystery Spot where you go to the bottom of the hill and put your car in neutral, and supposedly it'll go back up the hill?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:02:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GabbasaurusRex:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Been to both the Winchester and The Mystery Spot... both were cool...

Winchester House: Lots of beautiful things to see... NIIIIIIICE rifles too.

The Mystery Spot. has some strange stuff going on there... some people even get sick and feel nausiated. Yet as soon as they get down off that hill... they are fine. Bizarre.

If you have the chance... go... youll have fun



Is the Mystery Spot where you go to the bottom of the hill and put your car in neutral, and supposedly it'll go back up the hill?



Optical Illusion....
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:07:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 12:22:14 PM EDT by Phantom_Piney]
Been there done it, lots of rich looneys with to much time on there hands.

Ahh.........The Winchesters... www.prairieghosts.com/winchester.html

If you can make time, I would surely take a trip to the Winchersters house of dreams, surely it will keep you pondering. Ave [
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:08:52 PM EDT
Yup. First thing I did when I moved to SJ to go to school.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:31:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:

Originally Posted By GabbasaurusRex:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Been to both the Winchester and The Mystery Spot... both were cool...

Winchester House: Lots of beautiful things to see... NIIIIIIICE rifles too.

The Mystery Spot. has some strange stuff going on there... some people even get sick and feel nausiated. Yet as soon as they get down off that hill... they are fine. Bizarre.

If you have the chance... go... youll have fun



Is the Mystery Spot where you go to the bottom of the hill and put your car in neutral, and supposedly it'll go back up the hill?



Optical Illusion....



I guess if someone took a level and a tape measure, it'd ruin the fun.

I'm sure plenty of people believe that there is some supernatural cause, even when told it is all just an optical illusion.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:34:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gunman0:
I guess if someone took a level and a tape measure, it'd ruin the fun.

I'm sure plenty of people believe that there is some supernatural cause, even when told it is all just an optical illusion.



There's another spot like that somewhere in the Bay Area called Gravity Hill. Same thing happens, but according to some people (and I don't believe this), if you dust your car with flour before you do it, you'll find handprints on it afterwards.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:48:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
...Sarah Winchester was the wife of the heir to the Winchester Rifle fortune, William Winchester.....The medium, ...., told Sarah that her family was cursed by the spirits of all those killed by Winchester rifles. These spirits had taken the lives of her husband and daughter as a revenge. The only thing that would pacify these tormented, and tormenting, souls would be to purchase a house and build on it continually. If Sarah did as the spirits directed, she could escape them. Apparently, the medium also gave Sarah the impression that if the construction ceased, so would Sarah's life. Make sense to you? Me neither! It made sense to Sarah, though, which is why I'm able to write about this.
...



See what happens when you take nice productive New England people and move them out to Kalifornia.

They start talking to mystical anti-gun people and go nuts.

What a waste.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 12:56:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 1:04:28 PM EDT by NorCal_LEO]
Y'know I've been past that place a hundred times and never went. Maybe I will pony up next time I go and take the tour.

Usually during Halloween we like to go the the Haunted Whorehouse in Port Costa. It is not a theme attraction, it is an actual brothel that looks like it did in the 1800s. The interior is completely as it was including creaking boards, exposed live light fixtures and 200 lb silver wall mirrors. From the outside is looks like it is abandoned and delapidated (it is) and the inside isn't much better. I was surprised we were even allowed in. Good times. You haven't met a ghost until you've met a hooker's! Besides, there is a killer bar next to it...

NorCal
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 1:05:27 PM EDT
The Winchester hous is one of the few reasons I'd like to go to Kali...just to visit...
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 1:25:21 PM EDT
picture of a real ghost in the cemetary

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 1:32:40 PM EDT
The Winchester Mystery House is a pretty fun afternoon adventure. I've been 4~5 times over the years (I live off of Wnichester Blvd, about 10 miles south) and the gun collection is totally cool.
I've never stopped at the Mystery Spot in Santa Cruz, I'm usually flying by there in "full race" mode.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 1:48:35 PM EDT
I agree..........The Winchester House is a sight to see, sure California has some sorry ridiculous laws when it comes to Gun laws and PC ways of life. But the sights are interesting, and plenty of history across the state.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 1:48:50 PM EDT
I've been to the Winchester House. There's a lot of picture worthy things inside. They have a room with stuff worth over x amount million dollars. There's staircases that lead to nothing, doors that open to walls, etc. The house is very large and at the end they tell you how many miles you've walked. I don't remember how many we walked.

I took some pictures inside and got some weird things back in them. I had a friend send them to one of those sites that examines them for "unnatural" things and they found something in one of the pictures. If I can ever find it again, I'll post it. I don't know how reliable that stuff is and all, but still...

There's a rifle museumish thing off to the side of the house and a gift shop there as well. (no, there are no guns in the gift shop)

I've also been to the Mystery Spot in Santa Cruz, CA. I have a book on all the different mystery spots around the world, but I stopped reading for now because it got all sciencey on me.

It was very weird.... There's a hill you walk up to get to the house itself, which you feel like you're leaning a certain direction when going up the hill. Once you get into the house itself, things lean a certain way for no reason whatsoever...even the people.

We went up there and some people's cameras and watches stopped working. Why? I don't know, but they said it's not uncommon. I think the whole story about how the house got there is BS, but the gravitational thing itself is not. (IMO)

There were a few people who said they were feeling lightheaded etc when they went up to the Mystery Spot as well.

Both are worth a visit to see.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:11:28 PM EDT
pics I have uploaded from winchester and the mystery spot

window worth 2.2 million dollars


mystery spot (all of our photos taken up on the hill area came out blurry)


chandalier in the ballroom at winchester house...notice the funny candal...it is so there were 13


The bell tower...taken off a balcony


This is the pic dfd was talking about...one of those "ghost" sites says there is something in it along with the camera blur




Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:18:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsDrFrige:




Okay, who else sees the lady sitting on the stairs?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:18:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsDrFrige:

This is the pic dfd was talking about...one of those "ghost" sites says there is something in it along with the camera blur
im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc00b3127cce9f11064731a800000016108AZuG7V­uzZMw



The camera shake is from getting constantly bumped into....most likely from the really fat guy that was behind me that day.

If you zoom in uber close, there is apparently something in the mirror (obviously no one there, because it would've been clearer). It is supposedly a head or something to that effect.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:19:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GabbasaurusRex:

Originally Posted By MrsDrFrige:
im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4cc00b3127cce9f110644b09b00000016108AZuG7V­uzZMw



Okay, who else sees the lady sitting on the stairs?




Me!

Though I saw it as walking up the stairs lol
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:29:08 PM EDT
sylvia Browne visits the mystery house

hmmm

I actually would love to take one of the longer hard hat tours....ah next time.....
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:31:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 2:33:23 PM EDT
What fat lady, must be that mustard stain on your lense. heeh.
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