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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:02:29 PM EST
Harvard Law activists demand free tuition as a matter of racial justice

A group of Harvard Law School activists are demanding the graduate school do away with tuition fees, which they argue are “racially biased.”

Members of the group Reclaim Harvard Law School published an open letter Sunday addressed to Law School Dean Martha L. Minow and members of the Harvard Corporation — the University’s highest governing body — demanding an end to tuition costs that they argue impose an unfair financial burden on students of color, The Harvard Crimson reported.

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“The effects of HLS‘ astronomical tuition fees are racially biased,” the group wrote in their letter. “Due to the legacy of centuries of white supremacy and plunder, people of color are less likely to have amassed wealth in the United States. Therefore, these fees disproportionately burden students of color, not only by creating a barrier to attending HLS, but also by constraining the career choices of those who do attend by saddling them with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. How can Harvard Law graduates be expected to advance justice or the well-being of society when they are forced to make career decisions based on paying off this burdensome debt?”
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Skin pigmentation the get out of responsibility for everything in life card, whats in your wallet?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:04:28 PM EST
Are they going to be pro bono for their whole career?

If they have a written agreement to never charge for their services, then I think its a fair demand.
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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:09:03 PM EST
It's almost like a game watching what these fucktards are going to claim next...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:11:02 PM EST
Pretty ignorant for a group wanting to attend law school.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:11:59 PM EST
If the cost of a college degree is zero, the value of a college degree will be zero.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:12:30 PM EST
Free ride won't mean shit when they can't pass the bar.
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Originally Posted By Jacketch:
If the cost of a college degree is zero, the value of a college degree will be zero.
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Aint as though US companies are importing swedes because they have a good free swedish education.

The thought that Bernie is even a possibility is scary.

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We need to go Pol Pot on our academic institutions.

If I had to guess, many people of color at Harvard are already enjoying pretty big breaks on tuition.

The best thing this country could do is put a moratorium on law school admissions for the next 10 years, we are the most litigious nation on the planet but of course the left needs new foot soldier for their agenda....no one fits that better than fucking lawyers, especially a surplus of them.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:18:33 PM EST
"Herbert Lom"..."Idiot!"...."Herbert Lom"


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Originally Posted By Jacketch:
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I disagree to an extent because most still wouldn't have the motivation/determination to obtain a USABLE degree. Science and math be hard yo.

Not saying college should be free in any way. I think college is still plenty cheap enough as is because a useful degree will pay for itself fast.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:22:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Federov:
Free ride won't mean shit when they can't pass the bar.
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The bar exam is a racist reminder of America's exploitation of proud Africa people you cis-gender patriarchal Christian shitlord.
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Originally Posted By shotar:
Akron u has a law school too. It costs less than Harvard.
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Yeah, Akron U Law School's tuition is $24,500 and it is ranked 136th in the nation by U.S. News & World Report. (Link)

Harvard's Tuition is $58,200 and it is ranked 2nd. (Link)

Harvard also has one of the largest endowments in the country, allowing them to hand out far better financial aid packages than Akron.

Guess whose graduates are going to have a far easier time getting a job on graduation? We are in a long term down-turn in legal employment right now, and only dreamers, fools, or die-hards would go to a lower tier school like Akron (and I say this as a graduate of a lower tier school).

You are comparing a Kia with a Mercedes.

As for Tuition being racist, that is just silly. However, since minorities are less likely to come from families of means, it is going to be harder for them to afford law school (or any higher education). The impact of more expensive tuition is going to be felt on minorities more than whites (because there are more rich white families than rich black families). The solution is to make needs based financial aid more available (which is at least not openly racially biased).
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
Pretty ignorant for a group wanting to attend law school.
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Nah. Just young, foolish and pretty self-impressed. Most law students are that way.

Kind of like engineering students are good at math.

They just need some time in the real world to knock the shine off of them. The worst law school graduates are the ones who never practiced law because they still have that idealistic twaddle in their brain.

This line from the article makes my point:
How can Harvard Law graduates be expected to advance justice or the well-being of society when they are forced to make career decisions based on paying off this burdensome debt?”

Any practicing lawyer will tell you we don't "advance justice or the well being of society." We represent our clients and their interests in a legal system (note I did not say "justice" system).


Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:30:00 PM EST
How many generations are enough?
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On a related note, "people of color" is probably the most retarded term ever invented to signify "non-white."
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Originally Posted By AR-180:
How many generations are enough?
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3 I believe is the constitutional limit.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:34:14 PM EST
None of these social justice asshole are being forced to go to Harvard. Fuck them all
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:38:25 PM EST
I'd tell them 'Sure thing! Just as soon as you convince all the professors to work for free, all the utility companies to donate their services, all the building maintenance workers to suck it up and forget a paycheck...'

It's amazing how these people claim to be disenfranchised because of slavery that ended 160'years ago, but they have no issue with creating an entire new crop of 'slaves' that have to provide their services for free.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:41:37 PM EST
Shit, my white privileged ass wasn't issued a rich uncle at birth, who do I sue for this oversight?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:48:35 PM EST
a shitload of harvard's campus was paid for by the gold out of alder gulch, MT.

so i want free shit too.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:50:58 PM EST
Why wouldn't they demand it? Nobody has pushed back on any of their other ridiculous demands.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:54:45 PM EST
sooner than later, with all the endowments, racial quotas and so on, the degree will be watered down to the point of being useless...I cant recall the incident, maybe the jaywalker here at ASU in Arizona, or some incident with a so called college professor in California involved with stealing signs and brochures from a sidewalk preacher...her teaching curriculum included something along the line of Women In Pornography
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Originally Posted By mcornell:

Nah. Just young, foolish and pretty self-impressed. Most law students are that way.


Kind of like engineering students are good at math.


They just need some time in the real world to knock the shine off of them. The worst law school graduates are the ones who never practiced law because they still have that idealistic twaddle in their brain.


This line from the article makes my point:
How can Harvard Law graduates be expected to advance justice or the well-being of society when they are forced to make career decisions based on paying off this burdensome debt?”



Any practicing lawyer will tell you we don't "advance justice or the well being of society." We represent our clients and their interests in a legal system (note I did not say "justice" system).




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Originally Posted By mcornell:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
Pretty ignorant for a group wanting to attend law school.

Nah. Just young, foolish and pretty self-impressed. Most law students are that way.


Kind of like engineering students are good at math.


They just need some time in the real world to knock the shine off of them. The worst law school graduates are the ones who never practiced law because they still have that idealistic twaddle in their brain.


This line from the article makes my point:
How can Harvard Law graduates be expected to advance justice or the well-being of society when they are forced to make career decisions based on paying off this burdensome debt?”



Any practicing lawyer will tell you we don't "advance justice or the well being of society." We represent our clients and their interests in a legal system (note I did not say "justice" system).





Started poor as fuck dying poor as fuck. Some meme with Archer involved.

Shine? Phrasing? Omg awesome faux paw! !!
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Why wouldn't they demand it? Nobody has pushed back on any of their other ridiculous demands.
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Yep like Obama does to Congress.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:58:07 PM EST

Just say NO

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:59:37 PM EST
I think they should only represent defendants of their own race, it's only fair.

Of course I'm Jewish, so I'm okay with this rule.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:01:55 PM EST
University of American Somoa has a law school.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:03:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
University of American Somoa has a law school.
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LWYRUP
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:04:24 PM EST
Shit getting free college is fucking easy.

It only cost me four years of my life, my hearing, the full use of my right arm, and the ability to restrain myself from drawing dicks on everything
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:05:01 PM EST
If the bases of your gripe is your race; you have no valid gripe.
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Originally Posted By shotar:
Akron u has a law school too. It costs less than Harvard.
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lol


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Originally Posted By Sylvan:


3 I believe is the constitutional limit.
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Originally Posted By AR-180:
How many generations are enough?


3 I believe is the constitutional limit.


OWH frowns upon your shenanigans.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:16:09 PM EST
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It's almost like a game watching what these fucktards are going to claim next...
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there's money to be made with a good pool on this!
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:18:55 PM EST
Let's make admission to college completely based on academic achievement and nothing else- system where the color of your skin neither helps you or hurts you, or would that he racist too?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:19:28 PM EST
Equality is about equal treatment. Meaning no one gets treated better than others.

Giving preferred grants or tuition based on wealth is inherently biased. Your entire point is invalid and contradictory. While your argument is sound, it is invalid.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:19:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MarkNH:
Kick them out.
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This. Harvard Law needs to cleanse its gene pool.
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Originally Posted By bjb4242:
Let's make admission to college completely based on academic achievement and nothing else- system where the color of your skin neither helps you or hurts you, or would that he racist too?
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It is racist because tests are made for whites. Inner city youth is not subjected to the same grammatical terminology as suburban or urban whites.

This mindset was actually taught to me in a college class recently.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:28:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Socio:
Due to the legacy of centuries of white supremacy and plunder
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did they put in writing that white people were supreme for centuries? do they suggest that changed?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:29:32 PM EST
I'm hoping for some reparations for the shitty movies, music, and overall dumbass culture I've had to endure since the late 80's.
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Originally Posted By mcornell:

Yeah, Akron U Law School's tuition is $24,500 and it is ranked 136th in the nation by U.S. News & World Report. (Link)


Harvard's Tuition is $58,200 and it is ranked 2nd. (Link)


Harvard also has one of the largest endowments in the country, allowing them to hand out far better financial aid packages than Akron.


Guess whose graduates are going to have a far easier time getting a job on graduation? We are in a long term down-turn in legal employment right now, and only dreamers, fools, or die-hards would go to a lower tier school like Akron (and I say this as a graduate of a lower tier school).


You are comparing a Kia with a Mercedes.


As for Tuition being racist, that is just silly. However, since minorities are less likely to come from families of means, it is going to be harder for them to afford law school (or any higher education). The impact of more expensive tuition is going to be felt on minorities more than whites (because there are more rich white families than rich black families). The solution is to make needs based financial aid more available (which is at least not openly racially biased).
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Originally Posted By shotar:
Akron u has a law school too. It costs less than Harvard.

Yeah, Akron U Law School's tuition is $24,500 and it is ranked 136th in the nation by U.S. News & World Report. (Link)


Harvard's Tuition is $58,200 and it is ranked 2nd. (Link)


Harvard also has one of the largest endowments in the country, allowing them to hand out far better financial aid packages than Akron.


Guess whose graduates are going to have a far easier time getting a job on graduation? We are in a long term down-turn in legal employment right now, and only dreamers, fools, or die-hards would go to a lower tier school like Akron (and I say this as a graduate of a lower tier school).


You are comparing a Kia with a Mercedes.


As for Tuition being racist, that is just silly. However, since minorities are less likely to come from families of means, it is going to be harder for them to afford law school (or any higher education). The impact of more expensive tuition is going to be felt on minorities more than whites (because there are more rich white families than rich black families). The solution is to make needs based financial aid more available (which is at least not openly racially biased).




The world needs used car salesmen too.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:36:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By Socio:
Harvard Law activists demand free tuition as a matter of racial justice

A group of Harvard Law School activists are demanding the graduate school do away with tuition fees, which they argue are “racially biased.”

Members of the group Reclaim Harvard Law School published an open letter Sunday addressed to Law School Dean Martha L. Minow and members of the Harvard Corporation — the University’s highest governing body — demanding an end to tuition costs that they argue impose an unfair financial burden on students of color, The Harvard Crimson reported.

***
“The effects of HLS‘ astronomical tuition fees are racially biased,” the group wrote in their letter. “Due to the legacy of centuries of white supremacy and plunder, people of color are less likely to have amassed wealth in the United States. Therefore, these fees disproportionately burden students of color, not only by creating a barrier to attending HLS, but also by constraining the career choices of those who do attend by saddling them with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. How can Harvard Law graduates be expected to advance justice or the well-being of society when they are forced to make career decisions based on paying off this burdensome debt?”
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Skin pigmentation the get out of responsibility for everything in life card, whats in your wallet?
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Tell that to the Irish lol
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:37:24 PM EST
Yeah he's right tuition is racially biased....considering who gets in with lower scores and a free ride vs those who have to have high scores and pay through the nose in order to compensate for the
under performing free loaders....
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
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Go Land Crabs
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:41:22 PM EST
There sure are a whole bunch of people that want racism to stop but continue to fight for shit like this that does nothing but keep racism & segregation alive...





...idiots
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:14:42 PM EST
Someone needs to be makin' a list, checkin' it twice.

So we know who's naughty and nice.

When the shit really hits the, big fan

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:23:01 PM EST
I want to go to law school for free. I'm tired of hauling steel for a living.
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