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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:59:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 1:00:48 AM EDT by son_of_76]

Opinion

Pulling the Trigger

The Second Amendment is an anachronism in need of repeal

Published On 11/30/2007 1:15:05 AM

By THE CRIMSON STAFF

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Written in an age in which minutemen rose to dress and fight at a moment’s notice, the Second Amendment was no doubt motivated by a young nation’s concern for its own safety and stability. But now, when the United States is protected by the most powerful security forces on the globe, the Second Amendment is neither relevant nor useful. Rather, it has become an impediment to vital public policy, and it should be repealed and replaced with nuanced federal legislation.

Despite the controversy surrounding the Second Amendment, arguments about its relevancy have not surfaced in the Supreme Court since 1939, when the justices merely touched upon the issue in United States v. Miller. But early this month, the Supreme Court agreed to take on the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the central consideration is the right of an individual to own a firearm as protected under the Second Amendment. The case specifically addresses private handgun ownership in the District of Columbia. But while legalistic arguments—the phrasing of the amendment itself and the framers’ intent—will be at the center of the debate, no matter what the justices ultimately decide, we believe that a constitutional protection of an individual right to bear arms is detrimental to the country. Instead, the Second Amendment should be replaced with federal statues designed to tightly regulate gun ownership.

The high level of violence in the United States as compared to other developed countries, if not directly related to the culture of gun ownership and distribution, is at least a strong argument that the Second Amendment is preventing aggressive federal gun regulation. According to the Centers for Disease Control, in 2005, 68 percent of the 14,860 homicides in the United States were gun-related. Given the pervasiveness of gun violence that occurs in this country every year, this sort of uneven gun control is unacceptable, especially when it comes to handguns. Unlike rifles and shotguns, a handgun has little use in hunting: It is a military and police weapon, built expressly to kill another human being. Yet little is done to prevent its distribution: In Virginia, any person over the age of 18 can buy a handgun, and if a handgun is purchased at a gun show, there is no background check required.

Supporters of a constitutionally enshrined individual right to bear arms argue that state gun control laws have “reinterpreted” the right to gun ownership. These limitations on gun ownership, they say, demonstrate that gun ownership itself is not linked to increased violence. But in the wake of the expiration of the Federal Assault Weapon Ban in 2004, gun control remains relatively lax in many states, especially when it comes to handguns, which are responsible for many, if not most, gun-related murders. Gun advocates claim the need for handguns in self-defense, but such considerations are moot when weighed against the number of lives that might be saved by making the weapons illegal.

In the context of today’s society, the Second Amendment is outdated. Constitutional debates over its interpretation stand in the way of the implementation of pressing public policy. Instead of wasting time attempting to fix this anachronism, we should repeal this amendment and focus our efforts on legislation that will actually protect the “security of a free state”—a charge explicit in the Second Amendment.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=521013


The elite have spoken.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 1:17:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By son_of_76:


Opinion



According to the Centers for Disease Control, in 2005, 68 percent of the 14,860 homicides in the United States were gun-related.


Great, now go and research how many of those homicides were actually murders!



Yet little is done to prevent its distribution: In Virginia, any person over the age of 18 can buy a handgun, and if a handgun is purchased at a gun show, there is no background check required.


I don't live in VA, but I'm betting Individuals probably can sell to another individual w/o a background check.


Gun advocates claim the need for handguns in self-defense, but such considerations are moot when weighed against the number of lives that might be saved by making the weapons illegal.


Last time I cheked, murder was already illegal.



In the context of today’s society, the Second Amendment is outdated.


You're 1st A rights should be revoked.

The elite stupid dunderheads have spoken.


I hope the staff did not pay too much for their education, as obviously fact checking is not a required class at Harvard.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 2:06:32 AM EDT
Sooooo 68% of murders are gun related? WTF? That's just stupid. The murders aren't gun related the murderer used a gun but so what? Would it make you feel any better little girl if they was thrown out of windows?

100% of murders are criminal related. Let's ban criminals.

How many murders are drug or gang motivated?

Perhaps we should outlaw drugs, or better yet skip to the important part and just outlaw murder? (I might be on to something here.)

What these people fail to accept is that 2A is as important now as it ever was. Yes, we are protected from other nations by the most powerful military that has ever existed and I am grateful to those who serve. The 2A protects us from our own government as much as others and our fine military can't fill that role. A strong military makes the need for 2A even more important not less.

Basically these people are pussies willing to outsource their right to self-defense. Man-the-fuck-up. Your self-defense is always your responsibility and it always will be.

I suppose we could put our military everywhere and have them act as a giant security force but I kinda like freedom and the fact that our country is not a police state.

The gun is the problem? Right. I hate it when those damn guns just get up and start shooting people on their own.

Look, everyone thinks that because these are Harvard folks they have a monopoly on brains and thinking. Bullshit. This article is not that well written, and shows obvious critical thinking failures. This is what happens when you take an emotional position, and then try to justify the position. They do not confront their own bias, and it does not really matter how smart you are if you can't do that step in the critical thinking process. Poor quality thinking is ALWAYS the result of this kind of critical thinking process failure.

I do think this article is great news. Look, it's basically an admission that the 2A says what it says, and they don't like that they won't be able to oppress people and eliminate the ability for self defense anymore. (Post Heller)

BTW: I'm off to my CHL renewal class... Have a nice day.
Link Posted: 12/1/2007 8:43:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/1/2007 8:45:54 AM EDT by GilenusX207]
Fuck 'em. Hopefully they are also some of those super-green libs who believe that having children is bad for the environment.

I guess this just goes to show you: Just because you got into the Ivy Leauge doesn't mean you're smart.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 3:20:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GilenusX207:
Fuck 'em. Hopefully they are also some of those super-green libs who believe that having children is bad for the environment.

I guess this just goes to show you: Just because you got into the Ivy Leauge doesn't mean you're smart.


You know I was thinking of this last night, why not allow abortion all aound the country. Think about it, it's only liberals that believe in abortion so let 'em abort their future for the country and we will only have to worry about the occational RINO...who's withg me
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:20:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LILMike:

Originally Posted By GilenusX207:
Fuck 'em. Hopefully they are also some of those super-green libs who believe that having children is bad for the environment.

I guess this just goes to show you: Just because you got into the Ivy Leauge doesn't mean you're smart.


You know I was thinking of this last night, why not allow abortion all aound the country. Think about it, it's only liberals that believe in abortion so let 'em abort their future for the country and we will only have to worry about the occational RINO...who's withg me


Sounds like a winner to me LiLMike.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:30:46 PM EDT
Harvard CRIMSON. CRIMSON. They're VERY RED.

Fucking communists!


On the day when the 2nd amendment is no longer needed, the country I swore an oath to defend is gone. There will be nothing left but to flip a coin. Heads, it becomes time to start shooting enemies of the Republic, tails, I move to Guyana, the only English speaking country in South America, and make a good living selling communcations equipment.


CJ



Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:39:20 PM EDT
Maybe the people we import or have imported are largely responsible for the high crime and murder rates? This is not the fault of the gun. How the hell do I protect myself from MS13?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:46:59 PM EDT
This just in, the Brady Bunch does not like the 2nd either.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 4:54:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By blackx:
This just in, the Brady Bunch does not like the 2nd either.


Whoa, when did that happen? I must have been sleeping.

Remember, they aren't "anti-second amendment," they are "pro-safety."
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 5:58:04 PM EDT

Opinion

Pulling the Trigger

The Second Amendment is an anachronism in need of repeal

Published On 11/30/2007 1:15:05 AM

By THE CRIMSON STAFF

-SNIP-



All I have to say is:


WTF???


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